lol. The PAL VHS doesn't contain the yoda scene. No versions of Ep3 do and never have, even in theatres . Nice try
Ryan McAvoy said:
A question:
I always remember growing up with the image of Anakin and Obi-Wan dueling in a Volcano (Or at a push a lava planet) firmly fixed in my mind. Me, my brothers and my friends. So where did I get this notion from? An article? A EU book? An interview?
Rolling Stone interview with George Lucas in 1977:
"Vader kills Luke's father, then Ben and Vader have a confrontation, just like they have in Star Wars, and Ben almost kills Vader. As a matter of fact, he falls into a volcanic pit and gets fried and is one destroyed being."
full article here:
http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/the-wizard-of-star-wars-20120504
The Midichlorian idea was dropped long before the final draft of Ep4. You can clearly see from this that they had nothing to do with if you could become a Jedi or not. He was still following the plan of "anyone" could learn to use the force. The force in the OT was spiritual and not a medical condition. He only reintroduced Midichlorians as a measuring device to determine how powerful Anakin was in Ep1.
There are bits in there that made their way into the final version of the prequels.
This is a really interesting excerpt from the upcoming "Making of Return of the Jedi" book.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/22/star-wars-prequels-return-of-the-jedi_n_3313793.html
Interesting to just how different his plans were back then. It also destroys the argument of the prequel fans that they were planned out that way all along ( i bet they're going to love that ;) ).
So to summarise;
Yoda doesn't fight. He is more of a teacher.
NO MIDICHLORIANS
Jedi can love and marry.
ANYONE can learn to use the force if they are prepared to learn.
Luke & Leia's mother was still alive until they were 2 years old
So they would have originally fit in pretty well with the OT.
You should still be able to view it, even if you don't use facebook:
If it's good enough for Iron Man 2. It's good enough for Revisited ;)
http://petapixel.com/2010/09/29/canon-5d-mark-ii-used-for-iron-man-2/
Asteroid-Man said:
timdiggerm said:
Given that DSLRs give good image quality, and they don't need to record the sound...why not?
DSLR has good image, but compared to 35mm film, it's laughable. The colour range is only 8-bit, which drastically limits what you can do with colour grading. Most DSLRs don't even have a full frame image sensor. 5D does, which it seems like is what they are using though. You're bound to get artifacting.
The contrast ratio with DSLR is also hysterically shitty compared to film. DSLR crushes the blacks on shooting. The colour range isn't true YCrCb 0-255, and regardless of what you do with it, you end up with RGB 16-135.
Artifacting and brightness/contrast/colour aside, the grain on a DSLR compare to that of celluloid is an even bigger difference that Gorilla Grain can't meet, as much as it claims that it can.
When you have virtually every cinematographer in the industry saying that Digital STILL doesn't have the same look as Film (and these are people comparing film to the likes of the Alexa) how on Earth do you expect a DSLR to do it? Granted, MANY cinematographers are beginning to shoot digital now over film (obviously excluding the likes of Wally Pfister), but if they were doing some inserts for a film that was shot, coloured and edited on film, do you think they would shoot digital, let alone a DSLR?
Are you serious? You are comparing a fan film with a budgeted studio production?
Well if you want to give us the money to rent a Panavision 35mm camera, the money for the reels of film, the money for all developing costs, the money for professional digital scanning and all the other things attached to filming in 35mm and we'll gladly use film. And all that just to film a hologram shot and a brief distant walking shot?
But in the real world we use what we can that can still give us the results we want at the smallest costs. Funny how i have already shown a clip a long while ago that incorporated footage shot with a standard consumer camera ( before we got the Sony Z1) , yet NOT ONE person commented that the footage didn't match the original and stuck out as being digital.
It's just a fan edit after all.
Just announced that the new animated series is going to be Star Wars: Rebels.
It is to be set between Eps 3 & 4.
More details (and a video) can be found here:
http://starwars.com/news/new-animated-series-star-wars-rebels-coming-fall-2014.html
It does look like Disney are wanting to move more towards the OT and away from the PT.
2014 ‘Star Wars: Rebels’ animated tv series - Wookieepedia Page : Lucasfilm Wiki Page : IMDB Page : Wikipedia Page
Well i do have to thanks that guy. If it wasn't for him i wouldn't be doing ESB Revisited with a DTS soundtrack. He's the one that made me realise that Star Wars should be heard in DTS ;)
^^^^That shot is being replaced with the new Wampa
Maybe because you haven't seen the wampa scene from the OT in a while is why you have wanted to change the music. As i have said before, it's been butchered for the SE and the cues don't match too well. Re-watch the scene as it was originally and you will see that there is nothing wrong with the music , or the way its edited, in that scene. And that's the way it will be in Revisited
Asteroid-Man said:
...soooooooo was anything done to fix the continuity mistake in terms cutting in cave? You know how Luke swipes 10-meters away from the Wampa and the arm falls into frame?
Every time I ask this question, people go off on a tangent about icicles and music and things that don't need to be changed.I'm merely asking if this was even addressed by ady.
There is no mistake there at all. Look closely at that scene again. The Wampa is hell of a lot closer than you think. Plus Luke is lunging forward as he takes the swing. He only cuts the arm off below the elbow, although they really screwed it up in the special edition and had the whole arm severed.
Saw it yesterday. Luckily we have the new digital 72 foot Giant Screen in Birmingham. A much better 3D system by far. No crosstalk at al and proper brightness and colours. This film looked amazing in 3D. It just shows that 3D needs a good system to get the most out of it. The 3D in this film was perfect that it did surprise me when watching it how many people have said that the 3D wasn't good. It was the best i had ever seen.And the sound system there was unbelievable. Doubt i will go to any other cinema to see a 3D film again.
The film itself was a great ride. The only thing that slightly annoyed me was Benedict playing Khan. Yeh, i know it's an alternate timeline and all that, but Khan and his cohorts were created BEFORE the timeline went off in the new direction. So why has he suddenly changed race? Wasn't Khan supposed to have been Indian? Not a British white guy? But apart from that Benedict played a good villain, even if he wasn't the main one.
The SPFX were amazing. Really liked the new Warp FX (especially in 3D). The lens flares were tones right down, nothing like the first one.
Johnny Ringo said:
Prime spock [Nimoy] makes an appearance. He tells Quinto-Spock that he doesn't want to interfere - then tells him how dangerous Khan is - then doesn't bother to tell him ANYTHING USEFUL in defeating that man. Pointless cameo was pointless.
The scene cuts off before Spock gives the information.
Ryan McAvoy said:
As long as it isn't adding an extra shot of Vader looking down at luke falling and going "Noooooooooooooooo!".
Hmm, now you have given me an idea.........
;)
Instead of using the John Williams Main Title theme i would suggest using this instead:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJwa9mX0bxA
It's obvious when listening to it just how much the main theme was influenced by this track.
Plus, instead of using the Star wars logo from the trailer, just go straight into the recreated original crawl, because that is how the original workprint Star Wars title would have appeared, plus you don't really need it twice.
Ryan McAvoy said:
fishmanlee said:
You could take Cantina band, and make it sound like it is being played on set?
Not sure how I would do that. Again another idea for the "purist" edit.
Maybe there is a recording of some bar band doing the cantina music?
A few considerations:
http://youtu.be/I7E5HtyX474?t=1m48s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFkIU7NWVEA
http://youtu.be/W_LBjPcFG8c?t=57s
PLOTTING THE SCALE FOR THE HOTH TRANSPORT HANGAR MINIATURE:
Using foam board, i have cut out some rough plates so i can determine what the final scale for the miniature will be. I have used a 1/72 Fine Molds X-wing to determine the scale. The pepsi can is there to give you an idea of the size of this thing...
It's to replace the background in this shot, in case anyone is not sure which one i'm talking about....
The original cut of the cave scene is perfect, along with the music. It's only when you get to the butchered Special Edition version that this scene falls apart.
We have to hear the Wampa roaring in the background. It sets up the peril. If it was silent apart from ambient sounds then it would just look like Luke was just trying to escape from a cave. There is no threat there at all. It's the Wampa's roaring that wakes Luke. Hearing the Wampa getting closer and seeing just a part of him as he approaches builds the tension. Is Luke going to be able to escape in time?
But then they ruined this for the Special Edition. It's the whole Jaws thing. If they had been able to do a better shark then it would have been on screen more and the film wouldn't have had the same impact. And this was proved with all the extra Wampa footage. Sometimes the limitations of technology at the time can create something perfect.
So the scene will be as it was in 1980 but with a new Wampa added in a couple of shots.
imperialscum said:
It's been pretty well documented that it was because he had already introduced Chewie as a character that can fly a spaceship and have intelligence and that Wookiees could no longer be the "primitive" race to defeat the Empire that George wanted.
I agree, that was one of the main reasons too.
Even Gary Kurtz said that he became disillusioned with George after ESB when he noticed that his priorities had changed from Story and character and focused more on selling toys.
Well not "even". Kurtz was pretty much the one who came up with that crap. It was in that interview where he tried to convince people that he left because Lucas changed his priorities... to suppress the fact that he got fired because ESB spiralled over-budget.
yeh, right. he got fired because of the budget problems with ESB. You don't seriously believe that revisionist bull do you? If that crap is supposed to be true then wouldn't he have been fired once ESB was finished and NOT well after this had already been released and they had already started work on Jedi? They fell out over the direction Jedi was taking and they parted ways. If it was down to him being fired over ESB's budget then he would have been gone long before work started on Jedi.
It's so easy to see through the revisionist lies.
The Nerd said:
adywan said:
Yeh, this was discussed a long time ago. I went through and watched everything in depth to see what could be added, but then realised that nothing needs to be added. The Imperial fleet are long gone by the time Luke and the last few stragglers leave. Vader is after the Falcon and we see that they are pursuing Han & co. Vader and the other ships are there too. Vader isn't bothered about defeating the Rebels but only interested in getting Luke. He knows that capturing the Falcon is the key to ensnaring his son or that Luke may be onboard the Falcon. So Vader and the fleet blockade are gone, enabling Luke's easy escape.
What about adding in a scene where some Star Destroyers attack Bright Hope. BH is the last ship seen leaving as Luke gets ready to leave. More info is here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bright_Hope#Battle_of_Hoth
You don't have to show that much, just do something like this:
The ships takes of (img 1), we see a closer shot of the ship (img 2), a Star Destroyer fires on it (img 3). We then cut to Luke's X-Wing leaving the planet. I think we shouldn't get to see what happen to BH, but if you want to, then it's fine by me.
They gave the transport a name? Oh god. And people wonder why i hate the EU and completely disregard anything to do with the EU for my edits ;)
But seriously, we already have a scene that shows a transport escaping. The film doesn't need another one. Adding in scenes just for the hell of it or to show something we don't really need to see completely destroys the flow of the film. You only have to look at the added scenes of Vader flying to his shuttle to see just how adding wrong something like that is.
imperialscum said:
generalfrevious said:
The Ewoks only existed to sell toys. Everyone knows this.
That's a dumb statement. The furry creatures were part of the story from the beginning. They changed it from Wookiees to Ewoks because it is harder to get lots of 2.20m actors then lots of short ones.
completely wrong there. It was originally wookiees in Georges treatment but the reason he didn't use Wookiees had nothing to do with finding actors ( i don't know where you get that information from because i have never seen that reasoning anywhere). It's been pretty well documented that it was because he had already introduced Chewie as a character that can fly a spaceship and have intelligence and that Wookiees could no longer be the "primitive" race to defeat the Empire that George wanted. Early on in the writing of "Revenge", Endor was going to be populated with a race of Yuzzums (which the yuzzum ended up in Jabba's palace and then as a singer in the SE's). Ewoks weren't even part of the of the story until later on. Even Gary Kurtz said that he became disillusioned with George after ESB when he noticed that his priorities had changed from Story and character and focused more on selling toys.
When you see the early designs for the Ewoks you can see in their final design that their sole purpose was to look cute and look similar to Teddy bears to sell toys. Nothing more. The only reason we got the headdresses was because the costumes were too hot and they had to cut a hole in the back of the head for ventilation so they had to add the headdresses to hide this. Otherwise there would have looked almost identical to the childs toy.
So Not a dumb statement at all.
Ronster said:
14. Luke meets no resistance when leaving Hoth - I know this has been discussed at length and I hope the team do something to address this somehow but I will reaffirm this one also.
Yeh, this was discussed a long time ago. I went through and watched everything in depth to see what could be added, but then realised that nothing needs to be added. The Imperial fleet are long gone by the time Luke and the last few stragglers leave. Vader is after the Falcon and we see that they are pursuing Han & co. Vader and the other ships are there too. Vader isn't bothered about defeating the Rebels but only interested in getting Luke. He knows that capturing the Falcon is the key to ensnaring his son or that Luke may be onboard the Falcon. So Vader and the fleet blockade are gone, enabling Luke's easy escape.
The thing is, with that example you have given, the muzzle flash is being reflected because a) it is close to the trooper and b) it is reflecting off its surroundings because the walls and partly open door is reflecting it. If a flash is captured on camera, doesn't matter if it is 24fps or 124fps, the reflection would also be captured.
Just because the troopers in the PT get lit up like Blackpool illuminations whenever they fire a shot does not mean that this is what you would see in real life. You can even see in that example that there is no flash reflection in any of their visors. There are so many factors as to why there wouldn't be a reflection. One being that the gun can actually block out the brightest part of the flash. Studio lighting/ bright lighting is another.
As i said, it's not something i'm going to be bothering doing.
darth_ender said:
chyron8472 said:
I love Willow.
Although it's yet another testament to how unoriginal Lucas is, since it very obviously takes quite a lot from The Lord of the Rings.
Find me a fantasy film that doesn't rip of Lord of the Rings to some extent. That said, I think George ripped himself off, as nearly every character is a fantasy equivalent of a Star Wars character.
yeh, Willow just took things from one of the early drafts for Star Wars. He did tinker with the idea of having the main characters for SW as dwarfs. You've got all the main characters from SW in there; Willow is Luke, Madmartigan is obviously Han Solo, Sorsha is Leia, Bavmorda is Vader, Raziel is Obi-Wan.
ESB
ANH
ROTJ
AOTC
and ROTS and TPM joint last but with TPM probably edging its way further down as i can't evne sit through it anymore. But i only listed the last 3 because the OP stated 1-6 otherwise only AOTC would even be mentioned
Warbler said:
I pay attention to the news. I know of the horror going on in Syria. I heard this week that chemical weapons were used. Horrible. Sick. Just how hard would it be for the US to go in and put a stop to this?
because this time around there isn't the vast amounts of oil to get their hands on, like Iraq ;)
