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Baronlando said:

• Yeah the chase was shot in hawaii, somehow they even managed to make a real jungle look like a cartoon. Some of the shots in SKULL are just so amazingly bad it was a little shocking that ILM did them, usually that means they were added late in the game, but who knows with that movie. 

But have you noticed that, when ILM do effects for anything by Lucas/ Lucasfilm, they are nowhere near as good as when they do effects for other companies? By that i mean anything since the Special Editions. Look at the Rontos in ANH. they used the same model they used in Jurassic Park, yet they looked nowhere near as realistic as the dinosaurs in that film.  All the additions just scream fake. They used the same Red 2 CG model for every CG X-wing in ANH. The CG R2 in the prequels looks like a damn cartoon, especially in ROTS. The rocks in front of R2, Jabba's new door, Jabba in docking bay 94, the monkeys in KOTCS, the jungle, etc etc all scream fake. Now compare that to their work on other films where their work is stunning. But there is one common factor in all of the bad ones though; George Lucas was in charge.

After reading the highlights of the Kathleen Kennedy panel at CE2 i am a hell of a lot more optimistic about Episode 7.Hopefully a video of the full panel will come online soon

http://starwarsblog.starwars.com/index.php/2013/07/27/24092/#more-24092

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ4jZr1w0AI

DominicCobb said:

Gosling and Efron: clearly the stuff of rumor mill BS.

That being said I'd totally dig Gosling as Luke Jr.

It seems that it isn't legit

The Huffinton Post is reporting that they have been contacted by Ryan Gosling's representatives who said, "This is not true" regarding his involvement with Episode VII. They also point out that Gosling said he wanted to take a break from acting a few months back.    

Hurt isn't playing McGann's doctor according to inside reports. He is playing a Doctor between 8 & 9. The one that ends the time war. An incarnation that the following ones wanted to forget because of his actions. The whole "not in the name of the Doctor" thing is how they are going to try and explain away why the others call themselves 9,10 11 etc when they are in fact one regeneration further on. Hurt wasn't even in the 50th special until Chris backed out and they rewrote the story.

But why the hell are they only featuring the newer Doctors while ignoring the older ones? This is supposed to be the 50th anniversary and not the 8th. There was supposed to be a web minisode that had the regeneration from McGann to Hurt, but this looks like it may not be happening any more thanks to another regeneration happening in the next episode thanks to Matt leaving.

All they have done for the 50th that includes any of the "classic" doctors was some fleeting & badly incorporated shots from old episodes in "the name of the doctor" Man, the effect work in that was so bad. They didn't even bother to deinterlace the original footage to incorporate the new progressive footage. The effects have seriously gone crap in the last series since they dropped The Mill and used the US's Stargate Effects. Way to go with supporting this countries effects industry.

Now Uk fans have been slapped in the face yet again with the two Comic Con trailers for the 50th and Adventures in Space and Time. And them Moffat threatens that is anyone posts them online then Comic Con will not get any more exclusives ever. Do the BBC forget that WE pay for this program and NOT the American audiences? They don't even bother showing the exclusives at the UK Comic Con, when they can be bothered to even have a panel. It seems like they are trying to cater more towards the American audiences now and screw the UK fans. There have been the Doctor Who Revisited specials followed by showings of classic episodes. What have we had? Nothing.

But this last series has been terrible. The worse series since Who came back on the screens. It's put a bit of a dampener on the whole 50th anniversary for me and, with all this latest crap, i've just about had it with Moffat's Who.

The ship in ep3 isn't anything like the Tantive IV. If it was indeed supposed to be that ship then the CG modellers did a piss poor job as they look completely different

danny_boy said:

 

I actually have the Sony vw1000es 4K home cinema projector.

The Star War's blu's(both prequel and original) look absolutely phenomenal on it.

But.....

Due to the increased resolution offered by the projector....(all be it upscaled) the limitations of the analogue techniques used in making the OUT are far more pronounced.

In particular , scenes and shots which where optically composited exhibit noticibly softer looking images than 1st generation material.

4K(and to a lesser extent 2K) is ruthless in exposing these discrepencies.

By  their nature large portions of the original films featured such material.

A 4K master and a  4K Digital Cinema Package(DCP) may be too "harsh" on the OUT .

One of the reasons why Lucas opted for a 2K master.

Can't disagree with you more on this. They look terrible projected at 4k. TPM is actually worse than any of the OT, but AOTC & ROTS do look good. The problem you are seeing has nothing to do with the techniques used at the time of filming, but the way the transfer was mastered. The worse shots are the ones that weren't recomposited. Instead they just DVNR'd these shots to death. You can even see that they did this to some elements that they did recomposite. Plus, the scanning done in the 90's for these elements produced a lot softer results than a scan done today and, with the special edition, we're pretty much stuck with that. That's you problem right there as to why they look so soft. Add Lowry's so called clean up into the process and this is what you get.

Now, the person who invited me to the 4k viewing , also had something that came as a little surprise. He had a 4k scan of a 70mm reel from ESB (which is why he invited me really it turns out). It was unfaded, which came as a bit of a surprise. Now we compared this to the blu-ray and the 4k scan looked so much better, even if it was dirtier. Now this shouldn't have been the case, right? we did some side by side comparisons with some screenshots and there are effects shots that are smeared to hell on the blu-rays and have some very bad artefacts caused by this. I just wish that he had more than one reel so i could have done some more comparisons (and that he would have given me a copy of the scan). He also had a full scan of a tecnicolor ANH, which we only had time to watch bits. That looked amazing but it was noticeable which shots George deliberately downgraded.

So, redo all the compositing using todays tech and don't scrub the hell out of the elements and you will see a hell of a lot of difference.

Why did George only scan the OT in 2k? Because of the 2 PT films being shot in 1080p? Does he really want his older films looking better than he new ones with the tech that he was pushing so hard for? Probably not

But the blu-rays of the OT were such a piss poor job i can't see how anyone can say they look amazing, because they don't, especially when projected @4k.

Those films could look hell of a lot better than they do now if only someone who gives more of a crap about the quality than just getting the job done and maximize the profits.

Darth Solo said:

Again, was there anything frikken lost with that last miss-happening??

Noting would have been lost because anything would have been stored on an SD card and i never leave the card in the camera and always transfer everything to the PC immediately after filming.

But everything is sorted now. I will have a new camera in the next few days thanks to the help of some very kind people.

As Canon have already discontinued the 650D (probably because of the freezing/ crashing problems people were reporting), I will be getting the 700D. Same camera with a few alterations, and around the same price as the 650D but with a 2 year guarantee.

HotRod said:

Kwikfit??? As in the tyre, exhaust place??

 

yep, the same ones. There aren't many insurance companies that will insure my house, because its of none standard construction (steel frame prefab) and they were a hell of a lot cheaper than the others that would (over £200 cheaper). Funny thing is that i have just received my renewal forms today and they have increased it by over £150. Well screw them. They've just lost a customer. Signed up with another company that were much cheaper and it's a hell of a better policy, so i had great pleasure in ringing kwikfit to inform them that i will not be renewing with them. :)

Ryan, love that meme :)

I signed the insurance form and sent it back, so they have a copy. It was all done during the week i was moving house so i was juggling so much stuff at the time. They didn't ask for the serial number. just the model number as a description of the item, on the form.  It's my fault as i should have checked everything but, at the time, it was a madhouse having purchased the new house, arranging the move, packing and sorting out all the insurance, utilities etc all in the space of less than a week. Looking back i have no idea how we managed to get all that done. So i have no legal standing whatsoever.

Ronster said:

So are you gonna tell us how you made them trees or what?

Because it looks like we are all stumped....(lol)

I already have above^^^^^

Darth Solo said:

Dagobah trees on hoth???

Eye spy with my little eye.....the sheild generator model in the background aswell. Pluckin whoa master Ady!

Highly doubt it but what about adding McQuarries:

If things go according to plan then you may see this creature on Dagobah.

.Mac. said:

As far as I am concerned Ady, those (baby) trees were delivered directly from Dagobah - that's how real they look. The attention to detail on everything there is incredible. Probably not, but do you think you'll need to use these again for any shot in ROTJ (while Luke visits Yoda)?

Well i will be filming a shot for ROTJ:R while i am filming the ESB:R dagobah shots. So, there will be a shot for ROTJ:R completed before ESB:R is completed. But there is only one shot that i would need the trees for so it can all be dismantled once filming has finished

Hotrod, i tried Olivio and couldn't stand the taste.

Ryan McAvoy said:

Final go at guessing. Are the trees wrapped in kitchen paper dipped in PVA?

And the winner is.......

nope

Ryan McAvoy said:

The "Bark" is scrunched up tin foil right?

Nope

Sojourn said:

Gorgeous! Is the texture painted on, or is the "bark" actually textured? Either way, it looks beautiful! Thanks so much for sharing. 

The "bark" is textured.

A couple more BTS shots:

Dagobah trees during stage 1 & 2 of painting

Dagobah trees after stage 3 paint & completed

You can't flip any of those shots without creating more continuity errors. You flip the shot of him walking up stairs and Han & co are coming from the wrong direction from the previous shot and Hans gun belt is also on the wrong side. Flip the shot of lobot coming down the stairs and the stormtroopers are reversed (and you can't just flip Lobot either). It's only a problem since the SE's, thanks to the window as the original "windows" could well have had the corridor go all the way around the back. But, Lobot could always have doubled back when the attention was not focused on the rear wall, so i see no need to do anything here.

The large explosion in the clip was the original explosion they were going to use for the shield generator destruction

Those windows would be on the inside and not the outside of the building because the corridor goes all the way around, so it would be more like a central courtyard. But the way they are designed, they are more like ornate lighting than actual windows.

Grythandril said:

this is a question for Adywan regarding the first shot of the executor Bridge with vader.

Have noticed throughout the film that Vader seems to have 2 personal guards.  They appear in various scenes.

1. Removing needa dead body. 

2. Standing beside Vader with the bounty hunters.

3. Standing outside his quarters when piett enters 

However at the start of the bridge scene there is only one guard on the right hand side. So i made this little mock up picture (not very good at this) which show two guards on either side and thus eliminating the officer on the left (which i think is clearly piett.)

[IMG]http://imageshack.us/a/img607/11/j5mt.jpg[/IMG]

will you be altering this or leaving it at it stands?

I'll be leaving it as it stands. the second guard could just be a few paces from the other but be hidden.

And Ronster, love seeing your ideas. Even though they probably aren't what i would want to do for this edit, they could be of use to other editors. So don't feel that just because i may say no to an idea that you should stop.

As i have said before, there isn't a Yoda surprise. It was a surprise meant for Luke and not the audience. If it was meant to be a surprise then they wouldn't have used him in the promotional material prior to the films release.

I've seen fans that try to explain Yoda's crazy behaviour when we first see him as it being down to him living secluded so long on Dagobah. But this is completely wrong. He is only acting that way to fool Luke. It was more of a test to see if Luke was open minded enough to think that this little green goblin could be the greatest jedi master. he failed.

So there really isn't a problem with having Yoda in the prequels. No surprises spoilt.

There will be no speech. I just think it's a bit cheesy for the ending. It will be a new ending the will round the saga off and it will most probably be dialogue-less. That's a big part of the saga and i don't want to change that. It's the same as the stardestroyer opening in the OT.

Lord Haseo said:

Has anyone else noticed that Adywan taking out the Darth Vader scenes in ROTS doesn't keep the "No, I am your father" reveal a secret until ESB? I've read on facebook that the last we see of Anakin in ROTS is when he's on that medical stretcher thing on Coruscant after he was beaten by Obi-Wan. We can obviously assume that he survived without being shown how he exactly got put into the suit. Plus, before Vader and Obi-Wan duel Vader says " I've been waiting for you, Obi-Wan. We meet again, at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you, I was but the learner; now I am the master." Anyone with half a brain can come to the conclusion that Vader is Anakin. Also, when Aunt Beru says "He has too much of his father in him." and Uncle Owen responds "That's what I'm afraid of." you don't think anyone is going to come to the obvious conclusion that Vader is Luke's father after Obi-Wan and Vader's conversation if they are watching this in order? 

Where on facebook did you read that, because i'm pretty sure i haven't said that at all because that was never in my plans. What i have said is the last we will see of Anakin is after the duel and he is lying still, presumed to be dead. There will be a lot of new stuff filmed for the prequels. This will not just be an edit using existing footage. It's impossible to do what i want to do if i was to go down that route. I've figured out a way of Obi-wan having a pupil that has turned to the dark side and that's why Yoda is reluctant for him to train Anakin. I've also figured out a way of introducing Vader in ROTS without being able to connect him to Anakin. The reveal can be left intact. Yes, anyone that has already seen all the films will know of course, but fresh viewers who know nothing about the story, won't. It's actually such an easy fix (well i say easy, but extra scenes have to be filmed) that Lucas could easily have done this without ruining the OT. All that was needed was to throw in a few curve balls to throw the audience off. He could easily have introduced the suited vader without us knowing he was Anakin. It was just pure fanwank the way it was handled. After all, the Emperor had a different apprentice each episode, it became a villain of the week sort of thing.

Ronster said:

The first close up shot of leia shooting has 3 troopers and none of them step over anyone the first trooper get's shot? The trooper stepping over dead one in chewies area is correct nothing wrong with it.

Check it again. this is the first close-up we see of the stormtroopers getting shot and it's leia doing the shooting> keep you eye on the stormtooper i've marked with the arrow.

You can plainly see he is stepping over the body of the stormtrooper that doesn't die until Chewie shoots him later.