I guess you forgot about Lor San Tekka, who he killed right at the beginning of the film.
Another unarmed man, old too.
So, because he was unarmed, this made him a useless villain and not threatening?
Not just the final duel…perhaps you forgot he killed someone as well?
You didn’t believe in him as a main villain, but plenty of people did.
He killed someone, but that was at the end of the film too. I didn’t like his character at all, regardless of villainy. I was actually kind of annoyed by him.
I guess you forgot about Lor San Tekka, who he killed right at the beginning of the film.
adywan said:
And this is why the prequels failed. Star Wars was a fantasy film. He developed midichlorians in a very early draft when it was more science fiction, but throw them out when it became more about myth and fantasy. The second he resurrected them as a way to try and explain the force, he threw the fantasy element out of the window.To say that the prequels “failed” because of a piece of technobabble you did not like is a bit shallow in itself isn’t it? I guess shallow people like shallow movies.
So you are calling me a shallow person because i like TFA and don’t like the prequels? Typical of a prequel lover to have no better argument than to throw personal insults at people who don’t agree with them.
BmB said:
Abrams raped my childhood.
But, I guess with a comment like that, i can only expect you to throw the childish insults
-that FO-guy doesn’t respect his authority and is in no way scared of him;
HUX: Careful, Ren, that your personal interest does not interfere with orders from Supreme Leader Snoke.
KYLO REN: I want, that map. For your sake, I suggest you get it.Hux doesn’t say shit after this.
It’s enough already, but there’s also that (only?) other scene where they meet again before Snork and he looks amused to see him hopeless for his failure.
So, by your same argument here, vader is a weak and crap villain in the first Star Wars then? Tarkin isn’t the least bit scared of Vader and doesn’t respect his authority either.
I actually enjoyed the prequels in spite of Jar Jar’s annoying presence and Anakin’s unlikability. At least the prequels were original even if the execution was wanting in many respects.
Oh, they really are not original. In a thread you started in which you defend how AOTC is a good film , how can you NOT see that its is basically the plot of ESB jumbled around, yet slate TFA for being unoriginal? TPM was basically ANH with parts of ROTJ thrown in too.
Everyone shits on midichlorians but midichlorians are a more scientific aspect of the force. Where the OT presents a purely mystical force.
And this is why the prequels failed. Star Wars was a fantasy film. He developed midichlorians in a very early draft when it was more science fiction, but throw them out when it became more about myth and fantasy. The second he resurrected them as a way to try and explain the force, he threw the fantasy element out of the window.
I’m with you, ray_afraid, the bunk is a cool addition, but I much prefer that light being out. Chewie just hasn’t gotten around to changing the bulb yet. 😉
How many Wookies does it take to change a light bulb?
2;- One to change the light bulb, and a silver one to wield the ban hammer
I can’t help but feel like adding the bunk is a change for the sake of change. Like the Jedi Rocks number. There’s nothing wrong with assuming that there were a few changes made to the Falcon in the 31 years between Episodes V and VII.
It’s a visual easter egg, nothing more. you see it in one shot. It’s absolutely NOTHING like jedi rocks at all.
Welcome to the world of Disney.
And exactly how long did we have to wait to get any deleted scenes under Uncle George’s regime? 21 years, and then it was only 3 on a CD rom. Before we got deleted scenes on a home release of the OT , it was 34 years after the film came out.
Yes, the deleted scenes are a little disappointing in their content, length and presentation, but maybe we might get some more when the 3D version comes out later. At least that way it’s not just the same old double/ tripple etc etc dipping we got almost every year or two from George.
Different bunk
Where did you get the image for the original version, because that isn’t the blu-ray and it’s overcropped? Not sure why the Revisited image looks so blurry too (unless its facebooks compression playing havoc with the image. I’ve replaced the one from facebook here with a less compressed version)
Here is a proper comparison between the official blu-ray and Revisited
What, how? Is that where that’s supposed to be?! Yes!
It is in TFA, so that’s where it shall be 😉 But it’s not the same one where Luke is being attended to because the slope in the top of the bunk is reversed in that scene compared to the bunk in TFA
The Falcon gets a makeover…
Sounds promising but unfortunately the only scene that seems worth having in a fanedit is Finn and the villager. I haven’t seen the one with Maz displaying her Force Abilities as of yet.
And unfortunately it doesn’t look like any one is going to get to see that. The extra deleted scene thats available digitally is just the beginning of that scene and is basically just han solo and some very forced humour
Lord Haseo said:
Lucas was a pretty good idea man but his ability to execute such things post ROTJ was nil. If anything JJ and Kasdan could have taken a couple of ideas George had and adapted it to Episode VII.But they didn’t. And the result was as you see.
Yes, the result was a great movie 😉
Some people have been receiving their discs early. The discs have been in some stores wharehouses for a few weeks now. Someone i know on facebook sent me theirs so i didn’t have to wait the extra 2 weeks that us UK fans have to wait to buy and watch it. I watched both discs yesterday and sent it back today. I did see that the deleted scenes have now appeared on facebook, but they aren’t in the same order that they are on the blu-ray. The docs are pretty good, if a bit too short and don’t really focus enough on the making of the film. Too many talking heads. But it is still a great set that will be taking pride of place in my collection on the 18th April when it’s released here in the UK.
There is footage of Unkar Plutt inside Maz’s castle in the behind the scenes stuff on the blu-ray, so they definitely filmed scenes of him there.
Maybe some of those flamethrower troopers melted away the snow?
And then re-buried it when they got outside? 😉
The deleted scenes are out there… Timecode confirmed. Effects seem to be finished, but not always good.
Only the Kylo aboard the falcon scene has finished effects. All the others, including the snowspeeder chase have very rough effects, more like an animatic stage. It’s strange seeing the x-wings with red markings instead of the blue. And how the hell did they get aboard the Falcon when the whole one side of the ship outside is seen to be buried? We see Kylo coming up the ramp, but thats blocked
Bad news for anyone thinking of using the deleted scenes for a TFA fan-edit. It’s official that they will all be marked with a damn timecode 😦
Well The Force Awakens was the big winner at last nights Empire Film Awards.
Best Sci-Fi/ Fantasy
Best Male Newcomer - John Boyega
Best Female Newcomer - Daisy Ridley
Best Director
Best Visual Effects
… In fact, I did think that ESB Lando was pushing up to the limits, but adventure heroes have always sailed off to exotic “lands” and encountered tribal chiefs and bosses. It was ROTJ Lando that went over the top as an allied general in what was, in part, a WWII propaganda feature. He could have served as a Tuskeegee squadron commander. Ackbar was better as an allied naval commander.
Adywan said … Welcome to the real world where there are other colours apart from white. You must really love the prequels with its racist portrayals of characters.
In the mid-seventies, around the release of SW while GL was developing his story, the pop culture figure perhaps considered the funniest and most popular with blacks and whites was J-J from the sitcom 'GOOD TIMES'. His function was to provide zaney, silly humor and to be over-the-top so that the other black characters in the all black cast could seem more straight and reasonable. I can see why those unfamiliar with this would wonder if the character, in isolation, was a stereotype.
What the hell does any of that have to do with what i said about the prequels and their racist stereotypes?
Hi Adywan
If you want some help with the swedish subtitle give me a ping.
Thanks. I have just sent you a message
Oh for fucks sake. here we go again. Will you please stop turning this thread into a childish trollfest all the time anyone tells you to stop this crap. And what the hell is it with all this bandwagon bullshit all the time? Have you ever thought that people are just coming to the same conclusion about your behaviour? No one is jumping on a bandwagon here, they’re just fed up with this nonsense. And for gods sake please press this button on your keyboard after the full stop at the end of your sentences.
I guess i will think twice before replying to anything flukeskywalker posts again. now i’ve got to trawl through all that crap to find any offers of help for the subs.
Back to first principles. 'Science FICTION' is forward looking, 'Science FANTASY' is DECIDEDLY BACKWARDS looking. It's about rooting itself in the legendary and mythical PAST. "A long time ago...." The moment someone starts thinking "Ooh, we need to portray a better future!" he/she has FAILED SPECTACULARLY.
“Backwards looking” does not equate to “backwards thinking”.