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Originally posted by: SomethingStarWarsRelated
I know you're focusing more on the visuals right now, but I'm wondering (so I can be on the look out): are you thinking about adding in some PT sound fx to ANH?
I can't think of anything off hand...but maybe replace a few of the poor sound fx in ANH (maybe buttons and knobs-...maybe the lightsabers! )...

I think one thing that really dates this films is the sound track...particularly the foley fx. They used so much of the on-set voices and not enough ADR...and the ADR has an odd EQ or something...like they recorded it in a tin can or something...

Just one more thing to think about!


I'm stripping the soundtrack down to just the dialogue track, equalising the dialogue and then building it back up to a better 5.1 mix with new effects to give a better surround experience. I have managed to get hold of a 7 disk Hollywood Foley library and i'm in the process of making up a star wars effects library. I really don't like the mix on the DVDs. Too much emphasis on sound effects, music cues you can hardly hear or have disappeared completely, and an overpowering subwoofer (bloody bad idea to let ben burtt do the final mix).

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Originally posted by: wookielover69
Adywan,

Just been looking at your clips again for the hundreth time.

Noticed during the Obi-Wan Vader fight that there is a powder coming off the sabers on some blows. obviously this was the pratical prop at the time coming apart with the blows, just thought you might be able to at least dimish this as it ruins the light saber effect for that fight.

Thanks


That's one of the things i'm trying to eliminate

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.: The Lancer DVD Project :. (* unfinished project *)
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Originally posted by: Sluggo
Have you thought about souping up the Fox logo? I know most edits here are about restoring the old fox logo, but I think replacing the logo with the longer version from other films where the POV starts above and swoops down would look better.

The only problem with replacing the logo with the newer version is the length. With the new version the animation stretches to the end of the music. This would count out the fade to the Lucasfilm logo. You would either have to cut out the lucasfilm logo or have a section of silence that would probably be a little too long.

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The legendary &quot;Starkiller Ranch&quot; Thread
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How about using the skeleton Death Star from ROTS. That would be easy to add to any needed shots and , as Darth Richard said, it would be destroyed with in the explosion as a ripple effect. Because its only in its basic construction, as sluggo said, it wouldn't need any plot changes as the rebels would still concentrate on destroying the almost completed version which is the main threat..
One thing that has always bugged me about ROTJ is that the imperial fleet was never completely destroyed, so did they just give up when the Death Star was destroyed? I'm going to be adding the remnants of the fleet being caught up in the energy wave and you'll see them being destroyed. I think it will give the destruction of the Empire more impact and will take this sequence away from the "ANH rehashed" feeling I've always had about ROTJ's ending. Another thing i always wanted to see that was in the script, and will be in my version, was when the rebels realise the shield is still up and some ships couldn't turn in time impacting into the shield.
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Originally posted by: INv8r_ZIM
What exactly do you want to do for the DS schematic? rotating 3D wireframe as in Jedi and AotC, or a red wireframe scematic on the viewscreen? Interior with the reactor core, or just surface detail? It's not complicated to produce the assets, and I too think the SciFi 3D meshes should be adequate for your purposes here (just either render as wireframe, or use a wireframe material if you'll be working in Max, you can either produce the colour and glow in Max at render time, or, as I prefer to do, do it all in post in Vegas...just remember to include an alpha channel when you render).


I'm just after a transparent schematic with surface detail. I've never attempted using any 3D software but i'm gonna give it a go.

A quick update: I've scrapped the hyperspace cockpit scene that i posted the pic for. I just can't get the mattes to look good enough. I'm inserting an effects shot of the falcon leaving hyperspace instead. maybe when i have more knowledge of effects work i'll reinsert it, but for now its not going to be included.

I've also downloaded one of the deaths star models on 3d scifi and opened it up in 3DS max and I'm completely lost. i don't even know where to start. this is what i really want to recreate for the rebel briefing scene:
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/4267/deathstarplanslm3.jpg
I just need a transparent animation to overlay on the scene.I really don't think i can do this on my own so any hep will be greatly appreciated
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SomethingStarWarsRelated, another nice idea. might have a play with that idea
Originally posted by: AvatarX
Hey Adywan, I was wondering if you were going to correct any flip shots in the film, such as Vader's chest plate during the duel or painting out the white wire inside Obi-Wan's sleeve?
Also you may have mentioned it already but what's your color correction tool? The yellow tint in the corridor does seem to be something part of the DVD footage, despite the overly blue tint to the Tantive corridor. Has there been any success in isolating it?
I am trying to fix many of the flip shots in ANH. Vaders chest plate is proving a little difficult to change, but i'm going to crack it but Vaders chest plate now has flashing lights to match the rest of the trilogy. I've switched to Vegas to do the colour correction as it seems to be a lot better than premier for this task. I've eliminated the blue tint but theres also red & greenish tints in some shots to fix now. How can Lucasfilm release the trilogy on VHS with great colours but then release it on DVd so messed up. What then hell has happened to their quality control.
Originally posted by: cbaka
hi fans, here's a little shot of luke training in the falcon, i've redone the lightsaber, training ball'lazer, and the impact on luke's arm, that's just an "essai", i'm trying, to improve some ANH sequences, what do u think of it. thanks.

Nice work, cbaka. what software are you using for the lightsabers?

Another couple of new bits i'm working on, apart from adding the lights to Vader's chest plate:
Added the missing center strut in the Millenium Falcon's cockpit window.
Added the hyperspace tunnel in the scene after they escape the Death Star (see pic below). Also added a shot of the Falcon exiting hyperspace as it reaches Yavin.
Added the missing cloak on the wall in Ben's house when he gives Luke his saber.

Things that i'm planning to do:
Changing the speederbike scene with the jawas. i'm keeping it in but the one Jawa's no longer falls off and the other one doesn't swing.
Re-edit the lightsaber duel to give it more pace.
Adding a new matte to the chasm swing scene to give a greater view of the depth of the chasm.
Add extra effects to the tie fighter battle so the Falcon doesn't just sit there as they attack.

One thing i really want to do, but just haven't got the skills yet to do it, is the Death Star schematics for the rebel breifing. the old atari graphics on a projector screen just doesn't fit in with the scematics in AOTC & ROTJ. I want to change it to a red hologram to match. I just need to learn now how to build a 3D model of the death star to match the one in AOTC. The trench schematics i can keep the same footage with some tweaking. If anyone can help with this then please don't hesitate to contact me. thanks


http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1217/hyperspacehq2.jpg
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Originally posted by: Marvolo
I agree with tellan about the 3PO image. 3PO looks amazing but the corridor is yellow.
yeh, its does look like the wall have a yellow tint. not sure how that happened because the gold colour was overlayed onto 3po and i didn't change the background colour at all but the whole colour correction process is turning out to be a pain in the ass.I'll give it another go.
Originally posted by: Amok
Just seen the trailer and the alderaan explosion.
The Alderaan Explosion looks great. However I'd suggest not putting any PT characters in there and rather using a pure scenery shot from the ending of Ep III. It's too much of a distraction and as such it kinda lessens the impact of this very powerful scene.
Also if scene as a whole, it is kinda a cheap way of killing off characters that weren't used in the later trilogy anymore.

There is a lot more added into that scene now and i'm also hoping to add a scene as the death star first approaches Alderaan. I'm not using the scene to kill off characters that ain't in the OT but using it to add to the horror of Alderaans destruction. In the scene prior to the destruction i will have the citizens of alderaan looking up to see the death star and Bail looking out from the balcony. i'm hoping to add some dialogue if i can find the right lines. All will become more clear once the scenes are together.
Regarding the light sabers, I think the colours are still a little too weak.
The lasers from the fighters take some getting used to, but they look decent. Never bothered me on the official DVDs though.
Two scenes I didn't like were: The Falcon flying into the hangar. The glow has a very smooth edge and looks a bit unnatural.
And the tractor beam scene with the Matrix colours. Dunno, just didn't dig em.

These were only prototype effects and none of the shots will look the same in the finished movie. Not sure what you mean by the matrix colours in the tractor beam scene though. All i have done to that is blend the Matte in better than it was origionally. all the colours remain exactly the same as the original.
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AvatarX I love the idea of using the Trek footage for the Alderaan scen. It adds in perfectly with the expanded scenes i've almost finished. Bit of a weird coincidence too. the day before you posted your idea I purchased the season 3 box set of Enterprise but hadn't got as far as that episode. So i've got a good quality source to work from. Thanks.

Well i'm having a few days break from the effects work and concentrating on the task of colour correction. I've almost finsihed the Tantive IV sequences and its looking pretty good. just a few more tweaks to do. Its really hard to get the right balance between shots as it keeps changing levels. i doubt i'm going to be able to get it exactly right, but it's still going to look better than that horrible blue tint the DVD has.
Originally posted by: Sluggo
It seems almost appropriate that you would be able to see the tombstones there for that shot. It would be interesting to see if that shot could be widened or reframed in a way to include them. It would be cool to see the stones smoldering as well from some stormtrooper vandalism.
I think i may have found a way of adding a couple of shots of the tombstones. one before Owen & Beru are killed, and one after. I like the idea of the stormtrooper vandalism. Its going to take a lot of work so the shots may not appera in my finished version. but if they look good enough then they will.
Originally posted by: InfoDroid
Adywan, maybe this has already been answered, but are you planning to do anything about Vader's red eyes or the moments when we can see through his lenses to David Prowse inside?

I've got a few more shots left to finish, but Vaders red eyes have gone.

Heres a quick shot with the finished colour correction. I've managed to tweak 3PO too so he's now finally gold again.
http://img422.imageshack.us/img422/3097/3poredonecopyad7.jpg

And this one shows the Vader red eye elimination. Ignore the lightsabers because thats only an overlay added for colour tracking. The new sabers for that shot haven't been added yet. As you can see in the original (top one)the lightsaber colours have been swapped and Obi-Wan is holding vaders saber. Also there isn't any colour correction added yet to this shot.
http://img422.imageshack.us/img422/3681/vadereyesdonecopyvl9.jpg
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Originally posted by: Hal 9000
Wow, can't wait to see how the emperor will be fit into ANH. Are you sure you don't want to spoil it for us? Hehe

Just out of curiosity, where in ANH would the tombstones be visible?


It's still only in the idea stage and there is a chance that i won't be able to incorporate the Emperor into ANH, so i'm keeping that under wraps at the moment.

the only possible shot that the tombstones would be visible is the first frame of the shot where Luke returns home to find the bodies of Own & beru. Its the shot taken from lukes point of view as he pulls up in the landspeeder. Even then they might well still be out of frame.

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Originally posted by: Darth Editous

That's what mverta was doing - taking one of the other language's logos and putting it on the English crawl. But if you look closely, it's not the same logo. it has a much straighter top line on the ST of STAR. One of my fixes was retiming the original logo to the correct speed, so I can make that available to you as well as the other stuff.
DE


Thanks for pointing that out. i never noticed the difference until you said. The good thing is that the foreign language logo matches the PT one so it will be perfect to use for mine.
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Originally posted by: Hal 9000
I have an idea of something you can add to make ANH seem more like part of the saga.
Why not add the tombstones in the Lar's yard into ANH in the same place? (Unless they're absent from ROTS. Do we see the same part?)


I'm going to look into that. At the moment i'm doing a lot of comparison checks with the PT & OT to help resolve some continuity & other issues because i want the whole saga to flow better than it does at the moment between the 2 trilogies.

I've just finished the first pass of the colour correction using the white balance filter in VirtualDub after sampling one frame. Its removed the blue cast completely but has left a slight red tone to the whites in some scenes, but after applying a small colour balance in premier, the colours are looking great. i still have to go scene by scene for colour fixing but using the Vdub filter has eliminated most of the work i was originally having to do.

One thing that i have almost fixed is the timing of the title crawl. Not only does the Star Wars logo recede to fast on the english angle version, but is correct on the other languages (so easily fixed) but ever since they added "Episode IV" the crawl appears too late. If you watch "empire of Dreams" at the sequence with the original pre ANH crawl you will notice that the crawl appears at a specific music cue and this is how i always remember it. The crawl appearing at that specific cue fits in way better than it has ever since. I want it back to the way it was originally and because i intend to do the whole saga, changing this won't look out of place.

I think i've figured out a way of adding and introduction Alderaan sequence priior to the extra sequence i added to its destruction. I just need to find all the shots and dialogue i need to pull it off, so fingers crossed.

I've managed to find a French 5.1 track and its amazing just how much the mix is different to the English version. The surround mix and even a lot of the L7R chanel mix is even worse than the Eng version but at least it doesn't have the dialogue bleed over so it will be great as a basis for my new mix when used in conjunction with the Eng mix and my new elements. The surround chanels from the French mix has to be thrown out completely because most if it is almost mono and sounds terrible, but i don't need it anyway as my mix will have a mostly new surround chanel mix.One thing i noticed on the French mix is in the remote training scene aboard the Falcon. When they are playing the holo-chess game there is a great sound effect eminating from the game which changes as each player takes its turn. I just love it so its definately going in the mix.

Oh, and on one last moter, i may have found a way of adding the Emperor to one small scene without it standing like a sore thumb. I won't tell you any more until i know for definate that it can be done.

EDIT: I've just compared the position of the tombstones in AOTC to all of the Lars homestead shots in ANH and there is only 1 frame that the tombstones could possibly be in view so it just wouldn't be worth adding them

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Originally posted by: Sluggo
I'm not sold about the rain idea. It seems too contrieved for my liking.

"Oh no, Luke is sad! Oh no, it is starting to rain."


Dont worry, I'm only thinking of adding it to the extra scenes montage in the special features and i'm not going to add it to the main movie.
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Originally posted by: tellan
but surely it's worth leaving that shot in unfixed?

if something is riding on a repulsion field, then it is subject to movement based on weight etc. luke getting out of the speeder would make it bounce on its field as the weight changes and the internal projector adjusts to the new weight to maintain the ride height.

makes perfect sense to me.


It's still going to bounce as he gets out it just seems to bounce for too long after he gets out at the Lars homestead.

i really like the idea of it raining when luke discovers there bodies. Problem is finding sequences of rain against a dark plain background so i can overlay it.
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Originally posted by: SomethingStarWarsRelated

Will you be taking anything out of this edition? I know you're having Han shoot first and all...but are you removing any other SE stuff?
I pretty much enjoyed all the SE...I'd like most of it to say in. But that's just me.

I'm also wondering if you're removing (now, people, take it easy) anything from the ORIGINAL film. "Like what?" you may ask. Well, maybe trim down some of the driods on Tatoonie stuff? I wouldn't really remove any particular scene. Just some of the "excess" stuff. That whole sub plot takes forever. I could be more specific if needed.


It's highly doubtful that i'll be taking anything out of this release or trimming it (apart from greedo shooting first), but quite the opposite actually.
Originally posted by: Hal 9000
You know that shot of Luke pulling up in the landspeeder where Ben says "there's nothing you could have done, had you been there"?

The landspeeder always wobbled in that shot and drove me crazy, it's so obvious it's just on a rig. Can you do something to stabalize it so it doesn't wiggle around long after Luke steps out?

That's one thing thats on my list of fixes. not too sure how i'm going to do it yet though.
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Seeding, looking for: and upconversion questions
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Well a true upscaler costs hell of a lot of money and really wouldn't be worth it for laserdisc. your TV has a built in upscaler because it has to upscale the source resolution to the tv's native resolution. The Wega Tv should have different viewing modes. 4:3, 16:9, Wide Zoom, Normal, Full, Zoom so if by having a tiny picture in the middle of the screen you mean the video is 4:3 letterbox then just change the setting to the one that will stretch the picture to fill the screen but keeping the correct aspect ratio. The resulting picture you get will be almost as good as any upscaler can produce and will save you a lot of money.
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.: The Lancer DVD Project :. (* unfinished project *)
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Originally posted by: tellan
oooh go on. I'm using vegas 5 for this. I would imagine doing it in photoshop using a premier filmstrip would be much easier to control but I don't have the program.

actually, something else also springs to mind.

on the main establishing overhead shot of the tantive and star destroyer as they go over our heads.

as the planets come up into shot. the main big moon is all blue and then becomes grey. if you could supply an in all other respects untouched version of this shot with the black bars cropped off I'd be quite happy, I can't track the moon properly in vegas.


I'm not sure how you would do this in vegas because i used filmstrips for a few overlays. I use to use Vegas 6 so i'll see if it can be done in that. It should be simple enough to do pretty acurate motion tracking in vegas by using the "event pan/crop" tool. I used that for my new death Star approaching Yavin shot before i figured out how to do it in premier.

unfortunately i haven't got an untouched version on my system anymore because, apart from the ne lasers, the shot has been completed and rendered and i have deleted the files
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Originally posted by: SomethingStarWarsRelated
I guess it would help if you discussed the extent of the changes you are making here, adywan.
Is this a stand alone version? or episode 4 in the saga?
My guess is it's the later. Just by looking a your first post in the thread:

"Pistol blasts now match closer to the prequel trilogy..."
"Also re-painted the sabers so they tie in with the rest of the saga."

As far as the senate scene goes, it would be fun to see, but I feel the same way as tellen. Just not needed.
Maybe as a deleted scene though?


This is episode 4. I'm intending to do all 6 in the saga but because Ep 4 needs the most work on effects fixes i decided to start with that first (plus i'm waiting til TPM is release with the CG yoda and not that horrible puppet). My whole intention is to tie all 6 films together so that if you watch them back to back so that:
1. OT doesn't look so dated with its effects compared to the PT. Plus there was a lot of things in ANH that i was hoping Lucasfilm had fixed by now, but haven't and doesn't look like they are planning on anytime soon.
2. by adding a few tie-ins from the PT to the OT (and editing the PT) they flow together better (and not just a montage of planets at the end of the saga

It would be cool to see the emperor disolve the senate but i can't see it fitting in without having to sacrifice most of the Tarkin scene. But the idea of a deleted scene has stirred my imagination.

If anyone wants has some scenes or shots they wish was in ANH, even if it wouldn't fit in the film, then please post them in here. I've had an idea of, as a special feature, making a montage of completely new clips or shots. I want to throw a few humourous ones in too, so let me know. I will probably only have the capability & material to do some but it could be a cool special feature for the DVD

On another note, theres something that is really bugging me about the 5.1 English audio track on the DVS. There is bleedover from the dialogue into the front Left & Right chanels. I've been searching for a foriegn 5.1 audio track from the 2004 dvds but int the UK the only audio track is English. If anyone has a DVD of ANH with a foreign 5.1 audio track could you please post just the ripped .ac3 file somewhere please. it doesn't matter what language it is or that it is NTSC or PAL it would just save a lot of work for my new mix and eliminate that horrible bleed over.

thanks (with fingers crossed)
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Originally posted by: wookielover69
Adywan,

You did a brillant job covering up marks on the door in the detention block before it blows.

Is there any chance you could do the same for the wall during the Obi-Wan and Vader fight. As everyone knows you see the damaged wall before Vader hits it while trying to swing at Obi-Wan.

Thanks.
Originally posted by: Jaxon's Dad
Another suggestion for you Adywan: Throughout the OT, the shadows cast by the saber props are plainly visible on floors, walls, etc. Any way to get rid of these?

i'll look into fixing these.
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SomethingStarWarsRelated,

i love your ideas. the first 2 are pretty cool, but my favourite has to be the ships only just escaping as the Death Star explodes. My only worry is that it may end up being too similar to ROTJ. I do have a few ideas on how to avoid that though so i may start playing about with some test FX later. many thaks for your input. Please feel free to keep the ideas coming.
Originally posted by: Marvolo
My favorite thing about the ALDERAAN DESTRUCTION EXTENDED video clip is the fact that Jar Jar is in it. But I also have to ask the question of why he is there.
One thing that bugged me after the PT came out is that, what started out as a large character in TPM was never mentioned in the OT. Its just an idea that i had in the back of my head after seeing AOTC that maybe Jar Jar was on Alderaan when it was destroyed.
Originally posted by: SomethingStarWarsRelated
It's so cool to see this new shot inserted into this scene!
I've wanted to see something like this for years now!
My only concern is that it goes by too quickly. I had to watch it serveral times to see everything in it.
Tellen asked if there was some sort of establishing shot of the planet...I think that might make it work.
But again, wow! Jiminy cricket was right...my dreams are coming true!

I'm may try and slow the scene down slightly but it may mean starting the scene from scratch. I did want to insert an establishing shot of Alderaan with Bail looking up at the Death Star as it sets into orbit but i haven't figured out where i could insert it and still keep the flow of the scene.

Tellan, just watched your scenes. Amazing. I'll send you an email in the next couple of days.
Originally posted by: wookielover69
Can I ask you what software you are using for modifying the lightsabers and the majority of your effects?


I'm using Adobe Premier pro 2, Adobe Photoshop, Sony Vegas Video & Virtualdub.
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Originally posted by: MagnoliaFan
You may want to tweak the colors on Jimmy Smits to gray his hair or something.
He doesn't seem to have aged much over 20 years.
The shot does look good though.



I have greyed his hair at the sides. originally i tried a complete greying but it looked false so i decided to go with a subtle ageing
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Well things are coming along nicely. Lukes jumpy lightsaber is proving a little tricky to fix, but its getting there.

I've just finished the FX on my slightly extended destruction of Alderaan scene. You can download it using the link below. The audio track is again only a very rough temporary one and the shot at the end of Lukes saber is still only in its first phase for tracking purposes only and is no where near what the finished shot will look like.

hope you like it

ALDERAAN DESTRUCTION EXTENDED DOWNLOAD