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#283228
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Originally posted by: vbangle
Adywan, in the youtube trailer, the rebel transport ship (the one battling with the star destroyer) still has that red hue to it left over from the 2004 dvds. Would you agree with me that it was orginally more white than red?

Yeh, thats one of the shots i have have redone since the trailer and the red hue is now gone

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#283214
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Ok, Here's a few more comparison screenshots for you.
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/4166/vadertarkinhq6.jpg
Removed the blue haze and fixed vaders red eyes.
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7906/falconyavinge4.jpg
Fixed the sky. This shot originally had the clouds as if a storm was coming but the shot after the sky was pretty clear so i changed the sky so it is now closer to the following shot
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/444/r2falconxd2.jpg
Fixed the background error of the shot of R2 after the TIE fighter attack.
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1883/rebelhangervb0.jpg
The new Rebel hanger. You will notice that the new shot is flipped. this is because the following shots were originally flipped which was very noticeable by Hans holster & R2's markings. I have flipped the shots to correct this so the hanger has been flipped too.
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4861/troopersal0.jpg
As you can see the original had some colour balancing issues, Hans jacket has a blue glow, oversaturated blue walls & the troopers old & new just don't match. The new shot still has some minor work left to do on it
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7272/helmetgp7.jpg
When the pilots are getting into their ships their helmet insignias were blue, but there was no blue squadron in the final film. Changed them all to red.
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6691/pilotzq5.jpg
And lastly... As the pilots approach the Death Star they fly past Yavin but the in following shots it just disappears. Added Yavin to fix this error
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#283212
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/283212/action/topic#283212
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Originally posted by: OBtwosywas hoping to see some of the falcon stuff that is being discussed but yousendit says your bandwidth or whatever is exceeded

The rapidshare link is still available for this scene. Its actually on the page before but heres the link again
BEN'S DEATH & TIE FIGHTER ATTACK - HAPPY 30TH ANNIVERSARY - rapidshare 70MB - XVID
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#283208
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/283208/action/topic#283208
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Originally posted by: OBtwosy
the youtube trailer is amazing. I think I understand it is "your" content (edit, etc.)
jaw-dropping stuff!
Any chance it will make it's way to RS.com? (anyone?)
can't wait to see the entire project?
The trailer on YouTube is mine but was posted by someone pretending to be me. By RS.com do you mean RapidShare? If so it has already been posted there a while back. The link seems to be still active so here it is:
RapidShare Trailer
Originally posted by: Mojo_LA
I agree with the poster who said that some of the shots of gunfire between the TIEs and the Falcon feel a bit busy - Adywan, this is primarily what I meant when I was talking about "doing something because you can." I think it's great to have a little bit more back and forth gunfire, but I also found it distracting in that first shot through the window of the TIE. There is a nice rythym and pace to that shot... we stare at the Falcon coming into targeting range... there is a moment of suspense... then BAM the bad guys fire and we're under attack. Having the Falcon firing right from the start really does distract from one of the best shots in the film. I say let the TIEs fire first and then all hell can break loose (which is another point - it's important to let things build up momentum - any battle scene should generally start out small and get bigger - so saving shots of chaotic cross fire for later will have more impact if you SAVE it for later!)
One thing i have never done is add something in "Just because I can". This scene was actually carefully thought out before i started any FX work. The shot you are talking about, from the TIE cockpit view, had the falcon guns firing back because originally it just seemed to be sitting there letting the TIE fire at it without any retaliation, then next shot they are suddenly firing back. Surely they would have started firing at the TIE's the moment they started attacking the Falcon. It's not as if they were caught by surprise.
Originally posted by: Mojo_LA
As far as the readouts go, I do admit the first time I saw them they did feel a bit too "perfect." Even today, despite them being far more advanced, movies still often tend to make computer readouts look "computery" because that's what people excpect and, frankly, I think it looks cooler - especially on the Falcon, where Han has put his money into making the ship fast - I'd bet a fancy targeting readout is the last thing he would spend money on.
Here i think that the Falcon would have had a better targeting display. Having a simple cursor for ship identification would be terrible for a targeting computer display especially in battle where different types of ships would be involved. How the hell would they know which ship they are firing upon or what is approaching them? having a simple wireframe marker that identifies a ship would be a more logical display and for that reason i added the TIE displays.
Originally posted by: Mojo_LA
Changing the TIEs to simple markers is a good idea, and I would personally alter the frame rate on the displays to twos (i.e. 12 FPS) so they look a little choppier and low-tech. Just dropping the frame rate and ditching any motion blur (if you're using it) would make the displays look a lot less "perfect."
Just tried your suggestion and it works. The displays look much better now. Thanks
Originally posted by: tellan
i) when ben is cut down, I see you've subtly changed it so that we see his lightsaber and his hands (nice touch) falls away, away from camera, ie to ben's right. but off course, if I'm being really picky that then creates a continuity error because when ben's cloak collapses to the floor, the lightsaber falls on top of it.

My mistake there. the saber actually falls towards Ben but the saber blade layer was set behind the cloak instead of above it and this gave the impression that it falls to the right. I've now corrected this.
Originally posted by: tellan
ii) when the falcon pivots and accelerates away there is a slight jerk between your change and the original shot on the position of the falcon.

An immediate acceleration wouldn't necessarily be a smooth transition so there would be a slight jerk. I can't actually see what you mean with this shot though. It doesn't look jerky to me.
Originally posted by: tellan
iii) when you see Han saying he's going to warm up the guns etc. I know you've changed the starfield, but I'd advise changing the pan so that it's not going so fast.

Yeh, it was too fast. Fixed now.
Originally posted by: tellan
iv) this is how picky I am.
the first dive on the falcon by the tie's time index 1.29.26.17
if you look REALLY closely, you will see that the topside quad mount on the falcon is putting backwards, ie towards this tie.
but you've got it firing forwards.

OOOPS. Didn't notice that. i guess i need my glasses changed. I guess you have to be looking pretty close though to spot that so i might leave it as it is.
Originally posted by: tellan
vii) one or two of the shots where you have TIE's flying past the front windows of the cockpit, I'd eliminate the laser bolts on at least one of those shots.

Done.
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#283115
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/283115/action/topic#283115
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Originally posted by: DGC General X
Personally, I think you should send your movie to LFL. It might make them open their eyes a little bit to what should be done in the so called "Ultimate Box Set." Keep up the good work.

By the way, I'm subscribed to you on Youtube. Would you be able to send your finished product to me on there, or would I have to purchase it on a different download sight?

The person who uploaded the trailer to YouTube is nothing to do with me. Originally they uploaded it claiming to be me but have since retracated this claim and given me credit. there will be no purchase involved in this edit . it will be available freely through bittorrent, Usenet & PIF. I totally disagree with anyone selling their edits.
Originally posted by: eros
I noticed those starry backgrounds seem to wizz by very unnaturally as well, first time I'd noticed it. and all the stars seem to be at the same magnitude. Ah well 70's SFX for ya!

o you mean my edit or the original footage?

I never got to see your lightsaber footage Infodroid, i would love to see this. hopefully someone still has a copy that they could upload it for me.
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#282514
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/282514/action/topic#282514
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Originally posted by: Mojo_LA
Personally, I think taking a part of the movie that has no music and adding it is an example of "doing something because I can." Again, consider that the music is left out of that scene FOR A REASON.

I really can't see how you could possibly accuse me of doing something like that. If you have read throughout this thread you will see that there have been ideas i had and tried out that after i sat back and watched them in their entirety i agreed that they didn't work and they were removed.

the music as it stands on the clip is very "in your face" because this was just a very quick mix. It is going to be toned down a lot in the final edit. If you notice the shot where Obi-Wan's cloak drops has been lengthened so the original cue will no longer fit. If i posted the new saber battle in its entirety & with a finished mix then it might become clearer why i still believe that having the music does work.

I decided to do a quick render yesterday of the full battle and decided to show it to everyone that was at my BBQ last evening. 5 i know that are not star wars fans and have never even seen it (OMG ) so i could get a clearer view of the added music. the majority agreed with me on this matter and they loved the music saying it fits in nicely although a few did admit they were too interested in the new sabers than the music. It worled out at about 75% liked it, 25% either didn't or weren't too bothered by it. Maybe having 30 years without music in that scene is why most here don't like it. Who knows. But at the end of the day i do and that was the whole reason i started the project in the first place. I'm sorry to sound like a stubborn kid on this matter but this is the first time i will be going with the minority here on a subject, so the music stays, for the moment. If, after i sit down for the pre-release viewing i feel that it indeed doesn't fit then it will go. ..

Or i guess i could do an alternate mix as a secondary audio track that doesn't have the music i guess so you'd have a choice.

Originally posted by: Marvolo
adywan, in that video clip you posted I noticed something you missed. The light surrounding the opening in the docking bay is not glowing and blurred from when Luke screams "NO" until the ship is leaving then the light starts glowing and becomes blurred.

Thanks for noticing that, Marvolo. This slipped by me. Just fixed it.
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#282380
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/282380/action/topic#282380
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Originally posted by: Mojo_LA
The work you're doing is outstanding, just try to keep some perspective and let's not fall into the trap of changing things simply because you can, or want to have a longer list of "new stuff."

As you get closer to finalizing, take a step back and anything that doesn't improve the movie, fix an obvious mistake or looks PERFECT should go.

Yeh, this is what i am doing. You'd be surprised how much work i have put into a few scenes and when i watched them back in their entirety they just didn't work so they were scrapped. I have always felt that the SE had a few things added that were purely for "looks what we can do" and i will be steering well clear from that idea. If i feel that a shot or scene doesn't work then i either retry to do it or scrap it from the edit entirely.
Originally posted by: Mojo_LA
I've very impressed with everything... the new laser blasts are top notch and the exterior shots of the Falcon zooming by with TIEs all around it are perfect.
For what it's worth, I'm a professional CG artist (I work on Galactica) and my friends and I agree what you are doing is outstanding - just be sure every change you make is as good as the one before it; anything that stands out as a weak link should either be fixed, of if it can't be done right, no matter how cool the concept is, leave it out.
Wow, thanks you. that is an amazing compliment to get. I love the FX work on Galactica. You guys do an amazing job. Thanks for the advise.
Originally posted by: Mojo_LA
My only reservation is the new music when they are approaching the ship on the Death Star. I'd loose it.
Originally posted by: Marvolo
The only thing that will take some getting use to is the music inserted into the duel. I just prefer it without music, but I will wait to see it with a completed audio mix before I decide whether I prefer it without music or with music.
I have always felt that the lightsaber duel needed a musical score. Some of the most memorable moments in the OT had an amazing score and it really enhanced the emotional impact for that scene. I actually have the duel with about 7 different soundtracks but none seemed to match up with the impact and shot cues that were on the screen. ever since i have re-edited the beginning part of the duel to make it more intense it seems to fall a bit flat but after adding the first attempt at a musical score to this scene i realised what was missing. I added "Battle of the Heroes" purely by accident when i was messing about one day. i was surprised by how many of the cues seem to match perfectly with each shot change and emotion. It was as if this score was written along with this scene.
Originally posted by: GoodMusician
I have to agree that Battle of the Heroes is an apropro choice, but seems still kinda strange for me. If only there were some recording of it that was slightly different...an arrangement...

It would be great if i could find an alternate recording to give it that slightly different feeling.
Originally posted by: Savage
Speaking of audio...is the Imperial March featured prominently in your cut?

It will be featured a couple of times but not heavily.
Originally posted by: GoodMusician
You're using the same program I am I believe lol... Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 7.0? heh...

What about the CG stuff... you didn't do that in the program did you? I was trying to use it to make a new shot for another edit I'm doing and had limited results when it came to isolating the Tantive 4 from one shot...


I'm using Adobe After Effects 7 for the majority of the FX work. Without this program there is no way i would have been able to do even about 10% of what i have done so far. Its a great program and i would recommend that anyone that wants to do an edit get hold of a copy of this. You won't regret it.

I know that its going to be impossible to do an edit that will ever be 100% perfect for anyone but my only hope is that it comes a bit closer than the SE's do at present and the closest to the vision that i would like to see in a future SE if it were to ever happen..
Originally posted by: Jaxon's Dad
Great work! Will you be making this available in NTSC as well as PAL? If so, a copy needs to be sent to ILM from an anonymous source with a note that says something to the effect of "You all suck!" Maybe not..

Yes , this will be available in NTSC as well as PAL. The NTSC version will be released a few weeks after the PAL version.

I would love for GL to see this edit. That would make my day. But i doubt that will ever happen.
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#282330
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/282330/action/topic#282330
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Originally posted by: dumb_kid
The new music is an interesting choice which to be honest I don't know if I care for it or not, but even so when Han, Luke, Leia are talking it should be slightly quieter... their dialog is getting drowned out.

I did say that this was a temp soundtrack. i won't be getting around to mixing the soundtrack until all the FX work & editing is finished.
Originally posted by: GoodMusician
I'm listening to the music... did you use the SE as your music sounds almost different... did you remaster it? It seems faster or am I just imagining things... also, what program are you using? it's really great


as a guideline i'm using the isolated score that Belbucus did so any credit for the quality of the EP 4 music used in the temp soundtrack goes to him. I'm using Sony Vegas 7 to do most of my music & film editing.
Originally posted by: dumb_kid
The transition from new music to old music (when Ben dies) is a little jarring... as is Luke's "No!" (was it shortened or sped up?)

It seems that the shoot out was sped up a bit to make it "faster, more intense!" The only problem is that it now looks like an old Chaplin movie.... everyone is moving a bit too quickly and it looks un-natural... especially the smoke from the blasters


The problem is that when you add a new piece of music or remix it it will always be a bit jarring at first. I remember when they eliminated the echo effect from the TIE battle music it took me ages to get use to that.

Nothing has been sped up (unless you count that the PAL version is 4% faster than the NTSC version anyway). the only thing i have done to the shoot out is touch up the laser blasts and add blaster flashes where they weren't present.

I've been able to upload this clip now to yousendit.com via a different isp account.
BEN'S DEATH & TIE FIGHTER ATTACK - yousendit.com
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#282258
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/282258/action/topic#282258
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Ok, heres something that i wasn't going to post until May 25th but it looks like i may have either no internet connection or be stuck at dial up speeds around that time due to work being carried out on our streets phone lines. Its a little less complete than i was originally hoping to post, so sorry for that but it can't be helped

I decided to chose this scene mainly because its the track that i played the most when i got my soundtrack LP back in '77 or 78 (too old to remember exactly when i got it but it was a few weeks after it was released in the UK) so here's the footage that follows my version of "Ben's death & the TIE fighter attack".

there's about 3 - 5 FX shots that are still incomplete and the audio track is again a very temporary one (as you will be able to tell because of missing sound fx & unbalanced music track) but the rest is exactly how its going to be in the final release. There will probably be a few things that people may not like but i'm pretty happy with how its turned out and i won't be going back to change anything at this late stage except for finishing the few shots that i mentioned.

So here it is and happy (early) 30th anniversary.

BEN'S DEATH & TIE FIGHTER ATTACK - HAPPY 30TH ANNIVERSARY - rapidshare 70MB - XVID

sorry to anyone who has problems with rapidshare but i am unable to upload it again because i have reached my ISP upload limit for the month. If someone who has downloaded it could repost it elsewhere to help those people out then i would be very grateful
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#282204
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.: The Lancer DVD Project :. (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/282204/action/topic#282204
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That clip looks great, Tellan. very good work there.

I don't blame you marking the video file. i've just seen my trailer on youtube that someone has uploaded saying its their work and they even had the nerve to call themselves adywanuk. I love the way they are avoiding the questions about how people are going to get to see the finished result though.

anyway, i'm really looking forward to seeing this project. Are you any closer to giving us a timeframe for release?
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#279991
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.: The Lancer DVD Project :. (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/279991/action/topic#279991
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Tellen, i hate to be the bearer of bad news but it looks like you have your monitor set too dark. The new clip you have posted have some terrible black level problems. In some shots you have the levels jump from totally black in one shot to almost grey on the next bringing out some terrible video noise. in one shot also you have the red levels way too high and very oversaturated. Here's a couple of examples:

Bad black levels & very bad matte of the death star & top section of the cockpit
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9474/blacklevelsel9.jpg

oversaturated reds
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/2176/tooredgr0.jpg

Brightening causing blue screen video noise
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/8030/badbluescreenpy3.jpg




I'm not criticising you, Tellen, but i would hate for you to have done all this work only to find that there are a lot of problems that you may be unaware.
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#279782
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/279782/action/topic#279782
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Originally posted by: DGC General X
One ? for Adywan. How will we be able to obtain your movie?


It should be available through the usual methods (PIF, Usenet & Torrents).

I have just finished a test shot of the brand new Death Star schematics first animation. I can't thank the guy, Will, who is doing the mesh work enough for this. As you can see the new schematics now have a closer resemblance to the ones we see in AOTC instead of that old B&W Atari graphic style of the original. This shot is only a very basic test shot and will look a lot different in the completed edit, but i was so buzzed when he sent me the mesh i just had to share it with you all.


http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/3006/r2schematictestshotqp6.jpg
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#279725
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***The &quot;Darth Editous&quot; Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially &quot;de-specialed&quot; DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/279725/action/topic#279725
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Originally posted by: bkev
Agreed with the guy above, however I was a bit upset with the yellow flashes done by the color-correction with the lightsabers. Should there be a v4 would you fix it?


The yellow flashes have always been there & it is nothing to do with the colour correction or DE. Heres a snapshot from a 1982 transfer i have


http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/726/yellowflashgt8.jpg
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#279594
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/279594/action/topic#279594
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Originally posted by: Darth Solo
Adywan, just thought i'd bring up the work MoveAlong has done on the lost scenes in this thread, and as to how much you've looked at them?


Yeh these got me really interested. It's a pity the Lucasfilm have never released these at DVD resolution though. It would have been great to add these scenes, in some form, back into the movie, but no amount of work would ever get what we have now to the quality to fit back in without jumping out at you. They would be great to add a special features though.