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Post: #312773
Topic: STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312773/action/topic#312773
Time: 7-Mar-2008 1:17 AM

Originally posted by: gavin77
This is going to be a great Star Wars Year!!!! Revisited......The Force Unleashed.......The Clone Wars Animated Series (In the Theaters no less).....Wow!!!!!

Plus......more trailers and work on Adywan's ESB revisited.......maybe even a finished product?

That definitely won't be happening this year. i need a good long break and plan out exactly what i will be doing to the edit and how things will be done. If i started it when the DVD-9's are finished i would just burn myself out. As it stands at the moment i won't want to see another star wars films for months after ANHR is done with. Over 2 years of constantly seeing and hearing Star Wars is enough for even the most hardened fan.

Also can we stop all the bickering now. the thread is getting too clogged up with it.

I would also like some feedback on the audio just in case i need to tweak anything for the DVD-9's

Post: #312740
Topic: STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312740/action/topic#312740
Time: 6-Mar-2008 10:04 PM

Originally posted by: ron2112
At about 9:09 (NTSC), right after Threepio says "it's our lot in life", does anyone else see a sudden shift in color saturation?

Ron Moses

I know which spot you mean but its actually limited to 3PO. it suddenly seems to boost more red for a few seconds then fades back. This exists in the 2004 edition (another good example of the colour screw up with that release.) i tried to fix that but just couldn't get it to look right because it changes quite quickly and wouldn't blend out so because it is so quick i left it in, but it isn't as noticeable as it is in the 2004 DVD

Post: #312721
Topic: STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312721/action/topic#312721
Time: 6-Mar-2008 8:08 PM

Originally posted by: Covenant

I hate to be *techy*, but what was the actual problem for us UK, NTSC playing Toshiba HD people?? ;' ))

(And I know I'm annoying, but if you're re-doing the credit list..........)

;' ))))

Joe (Covenant) Lamb
A Man Desperate To Get In On This One ! ;' ))

Well i'm pretty sure that it is the fact that the "put the system header on each pack" option is not available or even present in the NTSC template in procoder, but it is in the PAL template i created. So i have created a new template based on my PAL one. Because the PAL one plays ok in your HD-DVD player but not the NTSC one it looks like this is the problem. I know when i was doing test encodes my PS3 had problems playing the PAL tests if this option was un-ticked. I would have thought that the official NTSC template would have had this enabled by default especially with it not being present in any of the settings that could be modified in that template.

As for the credit listing i had to make a cut off point as to who would be included and a hell of a lot of people started posting after this deadline. if i were to add your name in the credits then i would have to do it for everyone else that has posted since that point and the credits would now be half hour long.

But don't worry. theres always ESB Revisited

Post: #312698
Topic: STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312698/action/topic#312698
Time: 6-Mar-2008 3:46 PM

I have been editing the credits to remove someone's name after a misunderstanding and i will be moving my name further down to under the film editors credit because this is probably more appropriate so it is no longer in the first sequence of the credits and is now in the roll. this will now appear in all versions from now on including the redone NTSC for those with issues on HD-DVD players

Post: #312687
Topic: STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312687/action/topic#312687
Time: 6-Mar-2008 2:32 PM

For everyone having issues with the NTSC DVD-5 & HD-DVD players i will be uploading a redone version that should solve the issues tomorrow in a.b.starwars.

Post: #312639
Topic: Video Editing Software
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312639/action/topic#312639
Time: 6-Mar-2008 2:56 AM

Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Okay, thanks! I'll give that a look once I've saved up enough money. It does allow two video tracks, right?

EDIT: I've downloaded a 30-day free trial for Vegas, and I'm fairly impressed at the surface. Several video and audio tracks. Many more options than Movie Maker. But I'm trying to figure out how I would make a video on track too appear as a smaller image in track one. For example, making a computer screen in the first video look like it's showing something on a screen in the second.

Its pretty easy. on the second video track right click on the video and select "video event pan/crop". a new window will open. there you can resize the picture to your needs and drag it around the screen to place it in the position you need. this works on its own it you are looking straight on but if the screen it at an angle you will have to use the deform plug-in. just right click on the video and select " video event fx" and select the deform plug-in from the list. then just adjust the settings to match the angle (make sure you first adjust the "amount" slider or you won't see any of the other settings affecting anything (something like 0.2 to begin with then you can adjust once you see the deformation happening)

I swear by vegas. adobe premier was too buggy for me and slow. Without Vegas and adobe after effects i doubt i would have ever got my edit done

Post: #312636
Topic: STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312636/action/topic#312636
Time: 6-Mar-2008 1:10 AM

Originally posted by: Isley

Oh bummer... Just when you thought you had dowloaded it all...

Thanks, I'll try that. And yes I'm getting them from usenet. Was this a bad idea?

No, i prefer using usenet over anything else. Just make sure you have quickpar installed then open up the par2 files with it. You probably won't need all of the par2 files so just download the first few and see if there are enough parts to repair, if not just download a few more until you have enough

QUICKPAR DOWNLOAD

Post: #312633
Topic: STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312633/action/topic#312633
Time: 6-Mar-2008 12:59 AM

Originally posted by: Isley
There seems to be a problem with parts 30 and 32 of the properPAL DVD. When I try to extract them Winrar pops an error message saying "unexpected end of file". The fact is those 2 files are 49,9Mb whereas al the others are 50Mb. I tried to download them again : same result.

Anyone else has the same issue?

Are you getting them from usenet? make sure you download the par2 files that come with it and use quickpar to repair the damaged files. it will extract without any problems then

Post: #312606
Topic: STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312606/action/topic#312606
Time: 5-Mar-2008 8:25 PM

Originally posted by: nOmArch
just curious, what up with 3P0's silver right leg? quite a lot of shots over the entire movie he has a silver right shin.

and outstanding work btw Adywan!! absolutely love your edit!!

3P0 has always had one silver leg in ANH. I guess because of the horrible colours of the 2004 DVD's that fact seems to have been lost because you are not the only one to have commented on that. One guy actually said that he was a huge star wars fan and that i needed to learn how to do colour correction correctly because i have screwed the colour of 3PO's leg and made it look silver.

Post: #312595
Topic: STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312595/action/topic#312595
Time: 5-Mar-2008 7:03 PM

Originally posted by: AuggieBenDoggie BTW, there were some parts where the music was just over bearing. A good example is where Luke is watching the binary sunset. I had to turn my system down it was so loud. Did anyone else have to do this also?

The binary sunset was boosted, but only slightly, because one thing i always remember about that scene was seeing it at the cinema in 1977 & 1978 then again on the re-release in the 80's. That scene was so powerful and loud at the cinema but when the video releases came out and again on the DVD the music seems dumbed down a lot. It was one scene that really had an impact on me and i wanted this back. most of the rest of the music is the same level as the DVD. what parts in particular is the music too loud?

Post: #312571
Topic: STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312571/action/topic#312571
Time: 5-Mar-2008 4:18 PM

Thanks for the report Covenant. This really has me scratching my head. Played fine on my mates HD-DVD player. Its also strange that yours plays the PAL fine but not the NTSC and both use Procoder. With the reports that the timer stops a while before the freeze it does look like a conflict between the players and Procoder, but only NTSC encodes. I have just checked the NTSC template that comes with Procoder and the custom PAL template i created for procoder and there is a slight difference in settings. One setting is not present in the NTSC template and that is "put system header on every pack". Now when i had this box un-ticked in the PAL template i created i couldn't skip chapters without problems but it didn't freeze. I would have thought that the NTSC DVD template that came with porocoder was supposed to have created a compliant MPeg stream, especially after dong a lot of research on the web about all the settings for Procoder and everyone saying that the NTSC template is the best to use to create a fully compliant DVD MPEG2. I wish there was a way i could test new renders of the movie with different settings on a HD-DVD that's has the problem. but my mates played it fine so that rules that out. But when all DVD players seem to play it fine i guess that Toshiba HD-DVD have to have specific settings for a MPEG2 file. Now all i need to do is find the perfect setting for all round compatibility for the DVD-9

Originally posted by: discostewart
Now that the dvd-5 is out, should we be considering posting a new xvid and taking down the old one ? Im sure this fan edit is going to get lots of attention and osme people will download the old xvid and see the film pre-final changes.

i won't be doing another XVID release of the new version. I'm not sure it would really be worth it anyway. there are only a few changes between the two.

Post: #312564
Topic: STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312564/action/topic#312564
Time: 5-Mar-2008 3:07 PM

Originally posted by: Kurgan
However in that same scene I did notice that the rank badge on the officer's uniform seemed a little "washed out" vs. the much more colorful badges of everyone else in the movie.

The badge problem is due to the 2004 DVD transfer. It is really washed out in that one too. I tried boosting the orange colour but it looked a mess so i left the colour for the badge alone. As you can see here some of the colour is missing on the badge on the 2004 DVD so there was not a lot i could do about it. The saturation wasn't touched for the badge and remains the same as it is in the 2004 DVD. It just shows what a mess the colouring of the official DVD was. And you've just got to love the guy's purple uniform in the official DVD.

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/9150/badgecomparisonwg2.jpg

Post: #312560
Topic: STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312560/action/topic#312560
Time: 5-Mar-2008 1:09 PM

OK well i've just finished testing both the PAL & NTSC versions on the HD-XE1 HD-DVD(the Uk version of the XA2) player. both played fine without any problems. So it has to be a bug with the Firmware on the NTSC only players. I also tested it on a very old Bush DVD player that has always choked at the slightest problem on a DVD and again the NTSC played fine. Someone has pointed out that when loaded into DVDREMAKE it shows some errors. well i have checked this and although that program reports the errors they are just remote button commands, present on both the PAL & NTSC, but these would have no impact on the playback of the DVD. My guess after all this is that its just the TOSHIBA HD_DVD NTSC players that just don't like Procoder encoded mpegs due to their firmware. If you do a google search you will see threads stating that their players did the same with some retail HD-DVDs before an updated firmware. Same freezing issues mentioned here. Good luck with ever getting a fixed firmware now Toshiba have dropped out of the HD-DVD market though. And it definitely does seem localised to just the Toshiba NTSC players. Seems like the XBOX360 HD-DVD drives play it fine. Also it has been mentioned that the trivia track disappears on the NTSC when skipping chapters. has anyone else had this problem? I tested it on the PS3 & my Panasonic DVD-recorder and i can't see a problem.

Well i'm half way through the isolated score track for the DVD-9's. Originally i was going to remix the track into 5.1 but its now looking like it will just be stereo due to disc space.

Post: #312502
Topic: STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312502/action/topic#312502
Time: 5-Mar-2008 4:15 AM

Originally posted by: Kurgan
Mess with Yoda's death scene in ROTJ? Please don't!

Anyway, nice trailer. I hope that Yoda shot at the end doesn't mean you're going to mess with Yoda's "Psycho face" attempt to scare Luke (that scene always cracks me and my family up whenever we watch it, Yoda is awesome throughout ESB!).

I can't see me doing much to Yoda's death scene apart from smoothing out the transition slightly. And don't worry.Yodas psycho face will still be in the edit. The shot in the trailer just synced up perfectly with his voice and i didn't want to use another shot in the hut right after the shot of Luke.

Post: #312498
Topic: STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312498/action/topic#312498
Time: 5-Mar-2008 3:16 AM

cbaka, i sent you a PM yesterday about the PAL version

Post: #312461
Topic: STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312461/action/topic#312461
Time: 4-Mar-2008 10:05 PM

Originally posted by: BMadden

Originally posted by: dark_jedi
and as far as hd dvd players being the best upconvert players in the market,I beg to differ there.

You might beg to differ, but you'd be wrong. As I said before, I have the XA2 and it has pretty much been universally praised as the best upconverting DVD player on the market. Read the reviews and you'll see this claim validated.

Edit: I see hempler already beat me to it.

Well i know someone who has the Uk version of the XA2 (the HD-XE1 whcih is the exact same machine but with PAL & NTSC playback)and the upconverting is pretty poor compared to the UK PS3. We tested this a few months ago when her purchased it by plugging both into my HDMI switch box and switching between signals while watching the same DVD). I guess its seems to differ between regions then if you say its better than the ps3 and you have the NTSC version ( and don't forget that the PAL PS3 differs greatly from that of the NTSC version). I'm going to call him tomorrow to see if he can check both versions on his player . I'll report back when its been tested

Originally posted by: Kurgan
Even if HD-DVD is a "dead format" now, people are still going to have their X-Box 360's for the foreseeable future (PS3 is doing poorly as a gaming platform in comparison anyway).

Does anyone on this forum have a combo player? I wonder how those would work with this.

Well it has been reported that it works on the Xbox360 HD-DVD player both here ( the PAL version) and the NTSC version from someone i know in the USA so its looking more like the problem is lying with the Toshiba players

Post: #312455
Topic: STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312455/action/topic#312455
Time: 4-Mar-2008 9:55 PM

Originally posted by: dark_jedi
Ady,
So you think Procoder 3 is better than CCE SP or CCE SP2?

and I couldn't agree with you more on the hd dvd players,thay are going bye,bye.

Hell of a lot better, and faster. Some people say (as i used to) that CCE is the best and gives a sharper picture. but upon closer inspection the sharpness is artificial as CCE brings in video noise that wasn't on the original file. PLus when i was originally rendering Revisited a few sections produced some strange problems. In the briefing scene the new Death Star schematic flickered terribly when played on the TV. I checked the encode and CCE actually produced colour banding ghosting around the red lines. Procoder doesn't do this. It also happened on both the original Trench schematics that were recoloured red and the credits flickered horribly ( again the ghosting). All problems eliminated with using Procoder.

Post: #312447
Topic: STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312447/action/topic#312447
Time: 4-Mar-2008 9:37 PM

Originally posted by: Hal 9000
Looks like the NTSC is up on mininova, and I'm downloading it now.

I can't wait to see the ESB trailer with the newer Emperor. It looks fantastic in the picture.

i have replaced the original trailer with the one from the DVD on the first page of my "Empire Strikes Back Revisited" thread if you can't wait

Originally posted by: BMadden
Ady,

Another confirmation here that the NTSC version will not work on an HD-DVD player. I have the HD-XA2(the best player on the market) and it gets stuck at 2:13 just like hempler said.

Hmm, again another Toshiba player

Post: #312445
Topic: STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312445/action/topic#312445
Time: 4-Mar-2008 9:35 PM

Originally posted by: hempler

Ady, What software are you using to emulate the menus of the retail DVDs? The retail menus and movies play fine and yours look just like the retail ones but obviously something is different.

I'm using Sony DVD Architect to build the DVD. I've used this software for over 4 years an i have never had a single report of it causing problems and i have done hundreds discs for people ( i used to run a Video to DVD service and i have done a few weddings with orders of a few hundred at a time and never a problem). The menus were all built from scratch and Everything was encoded using Procoder 3(including the PAL version). I also ran the NTSC disc through PGCEDIT and that reported no problem at all with anything, so the structure is sound. It just seems to me that its the NTSC Toshiba HD-DVD players that are the problem. If it was the structure there would have been other posts about the disc not playing (especially in the newsgroups because they jump all over bad posts)

after looking at some other threads it does seem that the problem lies with some Toshiba HD-DVD player not liking things encoded with Procoder, mainly after updating the firmware. For me Procoder has produced a much better quality picture than any of the other MPEG encoders available, even at such low bitrates, and plays well on everything else so far so i will continue to use Procoder for the DVD-9. And don't forget that HD-DVD is really a dead format now anyway

Post: #312430
Topic: STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312430/action/topic#312430
Time: 4-Mar-2008 8:38 PM

Originally posted by: Covenant

Menu screen transition is a little slow.
As is going from menu to PLAY-ing the film.

While I'm here...
Cool to see the menus altered after my little post... Did you see the one about the small mistakes in the trivia track?

Yeh the menu transitions are a little slow. that's to do with the software used. Not a lot i can do about that plus there is a large gap between going from the menu to the movie because originally i had that transition going to the adywan logo instead of it being at the beginning and it played better that way. problem is i just noticed that i haven't changed the length back to what it should be. that will be altered for the DVD-9

and yes i did manage to change the "wounded" mistake in the trivia track, thanks. i left the other one as it is because that's the way i would would probably say it anyway ( i guess i could just have said that it was a creative decision)

Post: #312414
Topic: STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312414/action/topic#312414
Time: 4-Mar-2008 6:44 PM

if you live in PAL land then i would suggest getting the PAL over the NTSC as it is better quality

Post: #312410
Topic: STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312410/action/topic#312410
Time: 4-Mar-2008 6:36 PM

Originally posted by: JediBorota
Ady,

I used the infamous DVDdecrypter to burn the ISO file to DVD....But I am using PowerDVD to watch it.

I can get Nero from my friend. Do you think that would be a better program?

I tried it my way twice to no avail. Both times freezing.

No, i use dvddecrypter all the time without any errors. but i did have one version that caused a lot of problems with playback. which version are you using?

also did you try what i suggested and mount the image and try playing it from that?

Post: #312385
Topic: STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312385/action/topic#312385
Time: 4-Mar-2008 5:20 PM

were you watching the PAL or NTSC copy dark_jedi?

Post: #312382
Topic: STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312382/action/topic#312382
Time: 4-Mar-2008 5:14 PM

Originally posted by: JediBorota
Ady,

I am having trouble playing the NTSC version even on my Dell Laptop. If I try to do select scene and pick let's say the Cantina, it just freezes.

The same thing happens if I play the movie and try to fast forward...It doesn't get to the cantina...

I just wanted you to know so that you don't think that it is just the DVD players that are giving trouble...it is even the laptop.

Now that's weird. i just burned the iso image file i posted and tested the disc on my pc and the wife's laptop and it played without any problems. what software are you burning the image with and what software are you using to watch the dvd on the laptop? can you mount the original iso image file using daemontools or something like that on your laptop and see if it plays then. that way it will rule out a bad burn it it again doesn't play

Post: #312364
Topic: STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312364/action/topic#312364
Time: 4-Mar-2008 3:14 PM

Originally posted by: snoogans

On the main menu title, it freezes right after "A NEW HOPE REVISITED" appears, and doesn't transition to the menu screen. From there, none of the menu transitions advance correctly. They all freeze, and I have to scan forward to get it to move.

When playing the movie, it runs fine until 2min, 13sec and the freezes. If I scan forward a little, the movie actually jumps back a few seconds and then starts playing. It will play for anywhere between 10 seconds and 1 minute, and then freezes again.

The sign that it is going to freeze is the time stops running forward.

This does sound like the problem that was mentioned in one of the threads i found. Can you check to see if your player is set to 1080p/24 (or whatever resolution you have it to) if it is set to 24fps playback can you set it to 1080p(or the res you output to your tv)/60 and see if it plays then