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- STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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doubleofive said:
IMDB seems to be the only source on this, as no one I've seen in other threads can produce the evidence or video that the fleet ever went into hyperspace. I need to see if my dad still has the original CBS-FOX VHS copies of ESB and RotJ and see if this is true. I grew up on those copies though, and I don't remember that.
Darth Stewie said:
1. The original version has the Rebel fleet hyperspace out immediately before the end credits. Follow-up versions (THX re-release, Special Edition and DVD) all cut to the end credits before the hyperspace jump.
1. The original version has the Rebel fleet hyperspace out immediately before the end credits. Follow-up versions (THX re-release, Special Edition and DVD) all cut to the end credits before the hyperspace jump.
IMDB seems to be the only source on this, as no one I've seen in other threads can produce the evidence or video that the fleet ever went into hyperspace. I need to see if my dad still has the original CBS-FOX VHS copies of ESB and RotJ and see if this is true. I grew up on those copies though, and I don't remember that.
I have the original rental version of ESB and saw it on its first day of showing and that scene never existed (unless it was in the elusive 70mm version but there's been no evidence of this)
doubleofive said:
Never noticed that. Not sure how we could fix that...
Darth Stewie said:
2. As they are are walking through cloud city, Leia is between Han and Lando. As they come around a corner, Han and Lando have switched places.
2. As they are are walking through cloud city, Leia is between Han and Lando. As they come around a corner, Han and Lando have switched places.
Never noticed that. Not sure how we could fix that...
After looking at that scene its not going to be possible to fix.
doubleofive said:
This has been pointed out, but I hope that Ady uses my idea of having the window fade back to the brown wall or the brown wall actually be shutters that slide up as they are walking by (which gives Chewie something to look back at and be worried about), instead of removing the window completely or doing the impossible and putting the open window behind everyone in all of those shots.
Darth Stewie said:
3. In the updated special edition TESB, as Han, Leia, Lando and Chewy are walking to the trap Vader has set, they walk past one of the new "visualizations" with a lift going up and a view of Bespin. Yet in the following shot, when you see Han holding his gun, the original browny white background is back in its place.
3. In the updated special edition TESB, as Han, Leia, Lando and Chewy are walking to the trap Vader has set, they walk past one of the new "visualizations" with a lift going up and a view of Bespin. Yet in the following shot, when you see Han holding his gun, the original browny white background is back in its place.
This has been pointed out, but I hope that Ady uses my idea of having the window fade back to the brown wall or the brown wall actually be shutters that slide up as they are walking by (which gives Chewie something to look back at and be worried about), instead of removing the window completely or doing the impossible and putting the open window behind everyone in all of those shots.
I'm going to be putting the open window into every shot. Its going to be hard, yeh, but it will be worth it.
Darth Solo said:
That got me thinking about the cave scene. I never could quite accept the "failure at the cave" despite what-ever reasons have been given in the past. So, played with idea of having a different face in the mask, to make the scene less cryptical as to its meaning.
How about Haydens face? NOPE!
Sebastians face? No, as Luke has never met him.
OBWans face? Possibilty, and open for debate.
Then it came to me!
To make scence of the scene, from the trilogy point of view when it was made, Darth Vaders mask should have had LEIA's face inside it!
-It would tell me Lukes training is being destracted by thoughts of his friends, at an early stage, hence Yodas later statement.
-Make Luke feel like he is on the path to the darkside, by destroying people who he loves by being the aggressor in combat.
-And ultimately, he would be able to destroy the only other Skywalker (the final hope) if he maintained his current way of thinking - that making the difference as to why he didnt need anymore training in Jedi, as he had felt it.
It would make total scence of the scene, to me, and give one of those wow, thats been changed for better moments, that i loved many times, during watching ANHrevisited.....
That got me thinking about the cave scene. I never could quite accept the "failure at the cave" despite what-ever reasons have been given in the past. So, played with idea of having a different face in the mask, to make the scene less cryptical as to its meaning.
How about Haydens face? NOPE!
Sebastians face? No, as Luke has never met him.
OBWans face? Possibilty, and open for debate.
Then it came to me!
To make scence of the scene, from the trilogy point of view when it was made, Darth Vaders mask should have had LEIA's face inside it!
-It would tell me Lukes training is being destracted by thoughts of his friends, at an early stage, hence Yodas later statement.
-Make Luke feel like he is on the path to the darkside, by destroying people who he loves by being the aggressor in combat.
-And ultimately, he would be able to destroy the only other Skywalker (the final hope) if he maintained his current way of thinking - that making the difference as to why he didnt need anymore training in Jedi, as he had felt it.
It would make total scence of the scene, to me, and give one of those wow, thats been changed for better moments, that i loved many times, during watching ANHrevisited.....
I have no problem understanding this scene. Yoda tells Luke he doesn't need his weapons but he takes them anyway. inside he then confronts vader who is the one person he truly hates. Just look how aggressive Luke is when fighting him, which is a path to the dark side. Then when the helmet explodes we see lukes face which is a representation of what he could become due to his fear and aggression (by taking the weapons with him): consumed by the dark side, just as Obi-Wan's apprentice. We see another shot in ROTJ that shows Luke what path he may be taking when he looks down at Vaders severed mechanical hand then looks at his own mechanical hand. he then realises what he could become if he lets his anger consume him, and then calmly deactivates his saber and throws it away. therefore not taking the path his father took.
Having Leia's face would not only be confusing to the audience but would totally destroy the surprise at the line "there is another" and the revelation about Leia's true identity in ROTJ. Changing something along these lines is something i'm steering well clear of because it is just the kind of thing that Lucas would do if he thought about it.
seven said:
I figured the best way to make suggestions was to rewatch the film with a notepad and pen. Here are a few more suggestions that I have read and ones that I noticed in movie order (updated my previous list from post 548)
-Insert FX of Probe entering Hoth's atmosphere
DoneI figured the best way to make suggestions was to rewatch the film with a notepad and pen. Here are a few more suggestions that I have read and ones that I noticed in movie order (updated my previous list from post 548)
-Insert FX of Probe entering Hoth's atmosphere
seven said:
-Fix Prop Droids crash landing (remove fire)
Done-Fix Prop Droids crash landing (remove fire)
seven said:
-Add more display to Snowspeeder's instrument panels
I'm only going to add subtle changes -Add more display to Snowspeeder's instrument panels
seven said:
-Add Red hint to Bacta Tank for continuity
Doesn't need it as its inactive when coloured red-Add Red hint to Bacta Tank for continuity
seven said:
-Fix Probe shooting at Chewbacca (closer to his location)
yeh thats bugged me too-Fix Probe shooting at Chewbacca (closer to his location)
seven said:
-Add Camera shake to Luke's Snowspeeder Crash
maybe-Add Camera shake to Luke's Snowspeeder Crash
seven said:
-Fix AT-AT's laser shot hitting snow then rebel falling dead
all lasers are being redone so all troops that die will actually get hit-Fix AT-AT's laser shot hitting snow then rebel falling dead
seven said:
-Fix Vader's Chest lights to move when entering Rebel base
yeh, i noticed that one. too static-Fix Vader's Chest lights to move when entering Rebel base
seven said:
-Add FX enviroment reaction from MF engine thrust as it exits hanger
Not sure what can be done here without using 3D objects or it would look too fake-Add FX enviroment reaction from MF engine thrust as it exits hanger
seven said:
-Fix MF engine glow from gold to blue
all engine glows are being redone-Fix MF engine glow from gold to blue
seven said:
-Add more maneuvers to MF as it is being chased by TIE Fighters
I don't think it needs anything here-Add more maneuvers to MF as it is being chased by TIE Fighters
seven said:
-Remove 'explosions/fire' of asteroids colliding, add debris (how do astroids catch fire?)
well it depends on what the asteroids are composed of. i think they are just flashes and not fire so i won't be changing any of those-Remove 'explosions/fire' of asteroids colliding, add debris (how do astroids catch fire?)
seven said:
-Add missing push button off Luke's Lightsaber
where is this shot?-Add missing push button off Luke's Lightsaber
seven said:
-Add damage to asteroids from Bombers
maybe-Add damage to asteroids from Bombers
seven said:
-Replace Tool in Han's Hand w/Blaster
yeh, thinking of doing that-Replace Tool in Han's Hand w/Blaster
seven said:
-Add Laser shot hitting Mynock
doesn't need it because its already been hit as the flash is in the first frame-Add Laser shot hitting Mynock
seven said:
-Fix Luke's Lighsaber glow to match activation sound
again, where?-Fix Luke's Lighsaber glow to match activation sound
seven said:
-Fix Needa to a dead weight when being carried off
probably impossible to do-Fix Needa to a dead weight when being carried off
seven said:
-Fix Stunt man to look more like Luke (goes out window)
doesn't need it-Fix Stunt man to look more like Luke (goes out window)
seven said:
-Add MF landing gear retracting when taking off from Bespin
-Add Lightsaber Scortch marks on walls/railings
-Fix 3P0's hand location holdling severed leg
already thinking of doing these-Add MF landing gear retracting when taking off from Bespin
-Add Lightsaber Scortch marks on walls/railings
-Fix 3P0's hand location holdling severed leg
nohandluke said:
As far as the effects and changes, you already know you and I are on the same page. Just keep one thing in mind - If you're adding any ships at the end with the Rebels, let's remember that the full Rebel fleet wasn't assembled in one place until ROTJ - "Hurry, the Alliance should be assembled by now." - To my mind that means that the ragtag group that escaped Hoth would not have yet rendezvoused with the Mon Calamari fleet until ROTJ....
As far as the effects and changes, you already know you and I are on the same page. Just keep one thing in mind - If you're adding any ships at the end with the Rebels, let's remember that the full Rebel fleet wasn't assembled in one place until ROTJ - "Hurry, the Alliance should be assembled by now." - To my mind that means that the ragtag group that escaped Hoth would not have yet rendezvoused with the Mon Calamari fleet until ROTJ....
The fleet will be about the same size it is now at the end. There will be no Calamari ships added for the reasons you mentioned about that we aren't seeing the full rebel fleet at the end of ESB
ImperialFighter, the underside of the AT-AT you mentioned i won't be touching, i'm afraid. too much work involved for something thats never bothered me too much. I'm surprised that will all the details you mentioned that are wrong you completely failed to mention the colour problems. lol. The AT-AT's are grey but the close up underside is bright white.
Also the brick red panels on the falcon is also another thing that i won't be doing
the animatronic blinking on the taun tauns is going to be almost impossible to fix because the head moves around so much. also adding facial movements. like i did for the cantina aliens, will also be almost impossible for the same reasons. I have tweaked a few movements and blink but not all can be redone
