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#970286
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Lord Haseo said:

ZkinandBonez said:
Why, CGI?
Some simple prosthetics or make-up could age Jimmy Smits quite easily.

I’m okay with makeup but screw prosthetics

Well, that’s just one example of some bad prosthetics.

There’s been many good, and subtler, examples;

(Even the first picture of Meryl Streep above has her wearing some small prosthetics. Lucas, for whatever reason, just decided to slap as much latex as he could onto Wayne Pygram in ROTS.)

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#970270
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Lord Haseo said:

ZkinandBonez said:

Lord Haseo said:

joefavs said:

Not convinced that’s Bail Organa (but I’d love to be proven wrong). The fact that he’s in a military uniform doesn’t seem to fit.

Maybe if this film were taking place a couple of years after ROTS .

Why?
Bail was heavily involved with the rebellion around time of ANH.

That contradicts the reason you said you don’t think it’s Bail.

How? I do think it’s possible he’s Bail.
(Or are you referring to my previous comment that I imagined him with a white beard? If so that relates to my OT, pre-PT image of Bail.)

Lord Haseo said:

ZkinandBonez said:

Lord Haseo said:

And it’s only been 19 years since ROTS, so technically he shouldn’t look any older than the guy in the picture. One could also argue that Mon Motha looks a tad too young in this film considering how it’s only roughly 5-ish years between ANH and ROTJ.

That’s an interesting point but we need to see a good photo of whoever that person is before any assessment can be made. Also they could perhaps use CGI to age Jimmy a bit.

Why, CGI?
Some simple prosthetics or make-up could age Jimmy Smits quite easily.

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#970264
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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Lord Haseo said:

joefavs said:

Not convinced that’s Bail Organa (but I’d love to be proven wrong). The fact that he’s in a military uniform doesn’t seem to fit.

Maybe if this film were taking place a couple of years after ROTS .

Why?
Bail was heavily involved with the rebellion around time of ANH. And it’s only been 19 years since ROTS, so technically he shouldn’t look any older than the guy in the picture. One could also argue that Mon Motha looks a tad too young in this film considering how it’s only roughly 5-ish years between ANH and ROTJ.

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#970214
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jjqUZN5IDQ

Star Wars Explained made a pretty neat little speculations video about the new BTS reel.
Some of the stuff he talks abut has laready been discussed here; like Bail Organa on Yavin, Jyn and Cassio going undercover as Imperials, etc.
But he also makes some interesting speculations as to Galen Erso’s role in the film and the relevance of the planet Jeddah (the sandy place where we see the tank) to the movie and the new canon.

EDIT:
Also from what I’ve read (it was also speculated in the video above) we will get too see a young Jyn Erso, implying that RO will either be the first SW movie to have a flash-back (which makes sense since it’s an anthology film) or the film will start several years prior to ANH and then cut to when Jyn is an adult.

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#969961
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Jeebus said:

It’s just a little to on-the-nose for me. I would prefer if it went something like

“This is a rebellion, isn’t it? That’s what I’m doing.”

or something, anything else. I don’t think the delivery of the line is done very well, either.

Fair enough, but she’s not doing a “rebellion”, she Rebels, which becomes just “rebel” when you put “I” in front of it. But, yes, it is a bit Hollywood, and the dramatic trailer music makes it seem a bit too much, but I’d hardly use it to suggest a bad story/script.

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#969939
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Jeebus said:

Jeebus said:

Lord Haseo said:

If the script is bad

“I rebel.”

Does that help?

But why is that a bad line?

“This is a rebellion, isn’t it?”
“I rebel.”

Rebel definition;
verb (used without object), rebel, rebelled, rebelling.
to reject, resist, or rise in arms against one’s government or ruler.
e.g. “to rebel”

This is not meant to be some sort of “I, robot” kind of line, she’s simply stating that she rebels and that she should have the approval of a rebellion, which according to the trailer has more or less “arrested” her for violent acts against the Imperial authority.
Also the trailer has clearly chopped up the dialogue to make it sound much more melodramatic and awkward than it’s likely to be in the film.

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#969927
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SilverWook said:

Jimmy Smits?

That would make sense, especially since they got Genevieve O’Reilly to play Mon Mothma. Since Leia’s message to Ben in ANH was on behalf of Bail it makes sense that he’d be involved with the events of RO.

It’d also would be quite neat to finally get to see an OT-era Bail Organa.
(Although for some reason I always imagined OT Bail as looking more like the guy with the white beard.)

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#969907
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So as for people speculating whether Jyn Erso “goes bad” at the end of the film because of her Imperial outfit, it seems like she and Diego Luna’s character goes on some kind of undercover mission based on these two shots from the BTS reel;

I also found this kind of interesting, not really sure why, but I have too much time on my hands.
Tudyk in mo-cap suit running around on the beach location. He even has the droid head on a stick for proper eye-contact and as a reference point for the CG artists.

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#969810
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A few interesting bits from http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2016/07/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-costumes-panel.html ;

“Jones says that Jyn knows who she is and where she comes from, which sets her apart from previous Star Wars protagonists, and she is more seasoned as a character.”

“Luna’s character, Cassian Andor, is the second member of the “Rogue” team and the de facto leader. His only friend, K2-SO, is a reprogrammed Imperial Battle Droid.”

“Tudyk shows K2-SO as the comic relief of the film, and notes that the motion-capture process was important to bring his character to life. He’s described as being “not all there” and brutally honest due to his imperfect reprogramming.”

“Edwards explains that he wanted to film a scene in a subway station due to its futuristic look. The sequence was filmed in its entirety in the four hours that the station was closed.”

“Whitaker’s Saw Gerrera is an extremist guerilla fighter. Whitaker notes that he has seen the episodes of The Clone Wars that feature his character.”
(I previously assumed that the RO connection to the Clone Wars series was kind of tacked on, but I guess they might have put some effort into it?)

“George Lucas visited the set of Rogue One, to the surprise of Edwards.”

“Mads Mikkelsen’s Galen Erso is Jyn’s father and “a person of interest”. He was a scientist that invented something so beautiful that would change the world.”

“Mendelsohn explains that Krennic is a different kind of villain in the sense that he’s smarter than many of his predecessors and more inventive.”

“Darth Vader is confirmed to be in Rogue One yet again. James Earl Jones is reprising his role.”

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#969798
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Smithers said:

ZkinandBonez said:

I was amazed to see just how many practical effects that was in it. I’m also glad to see that they borrowed the method used by Nolan in Interstellar to project images outside the spaceship windows rather than to just film everything with a green-screen background.

Yep, this makes me SO excited for the film. JJ Abrams bragged about his use of practical effects in episode 7 but he didn’t nearly go this far! I’m hoping to see some models an practical ships rather than CGI ones now.

Agreed, but let’s not forget that TFA did have plenty of practical stuff in it, but a lot of it got overshadowed by all the CGI. This could happen to RO as well.
But just doing something as simple as projected backdrops instead of green-screen does at least show that Gareth Edwards might be willing to put the practical stuff more center-frame than Abrams did.
I think these two new furry creatures might help the film a fair bit in achieving an over-all feeling of realism. Although Maz was an impressive CG character, she did seem oddly out of place in the very practical effects filled cantina/castle set to me. Luckily TFA had Chewie.
I’m not too sure about miniatures though, but if Edwards borrowed the projected background idea from Interstellar, then maybe he borrowed the use of miniatures as well? I’m kinda skeptical towards this, but it could help explain that amazing-looking Star Destroyer from the trailer.

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#969771
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Smithers said:

Lots of awesome imagery in this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUb_zpdyDpU

I was amazed to see just how many practical effects that was in it. When the info about the two aliens in the main cast leaked I was afraid that they’d CG the, but it seems like it’s only going to be Tudyk’s droid character that’ll be CG among the main cast.
I’m also glad to see that they borrowed the method used by Nolan in Interstellar to project images outside the spaceship windows rather than to just film everything with a green-screen background.

I’m also getting a Full Metal Jacket vibe from this video (which I really like);

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#969757
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Some really awesome BTS footage just got released on the SW YouTube page;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUb_zpdyDpU


Some photos of some of the new costumes and ships/vehicles.

http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2016/07/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-costumes-panel.html

Shoretrooper;

TIE Striker;



Krennic’s Imperial Shuttle;


AT-ACT Cargo Walker;