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#1398947
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<em>The Mandalorian</em> Discussion Thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
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Jeremy Bulloch remembered in the end credits of The Mandalorian
https://www.fanthatracks.com/news/jeremy-bulloch-remembered-in-the-end-credits-of-the-mandalorian/

“Passing away the day before the arrival of the last chapter of season 2 of The Mandalorian, there simply wasn’t the time to add any kind of memorial message to the episode, but thankfully that has been rectified, and Jeremy has now been remembered in the end credits of that final episode.”

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#1398654
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Small details that took you <em><strong>FOREVER</strong></em> to notice in the <em>Star Wars</em> films
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Chase Adams said:

SparkySywer said:

Not OT, but just noticed that in AotC, Obi-Wan calls the Jedi Temple the “Old Folks’ Home”… twice.

I’m so confused:

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Old_Folks'_Home

Interesting. It says that it’s first appearance was in Jedi Starfighter (and it’s Legends) so maybe this is an EU interpretation of Obi-Wan’s line? Now I’m curious about what Lucas intended the line to mean.

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#1398614
Topic
Small details that took you <em><strong>FOREVER</strong></em> to notice in the <em>Star Wars</em> films
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SparkySywer said:

Not OT, but just noticed that in AotC, Obi-Wan calls the Jedi Temple the “Old Folks’ Home”… twice.

I always figured he was referring to the part of the temple that Yoda lived in (though Windu’s presence does make it seem a little odd). The temple is after all the home to many younglings, padawans, Jedi knights & Jedi masters, so I’d imagine they’d have everything from a nursery to an Old Folks Home.

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#1397146
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Darth Vader isn't calm in the original trilogy; he has always been very emotional
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imperialscum said:

G&G-Fan said:

How is this (slamming his lightsaber furiously) calm?
https://youtu.be/GueBXRYVhe0

Pointless “slamming” (i.e., intentionally missing) is obviously part of Vader toying with Luke. When Luke cuts Vader’s arm, his sword style changes dramatically and Luke is elegantly disarmed in a couple of seconds.

I’d say this scene is a great example of how Vader uses his aggression properly. It’s brutal, violent, ‘aggressive’, but also disciplined enough to not be wild or chaotic. And as far as PT retcons go, it’s shows how much he’s grown since ROTS. But it’s still Vader channeling his anger, especially once Luke gets a hit and he realizes he’s been taking the fight a little too casually. It’s not out of control angry, but it is aggressive.

I don’t think G&G is arguing that OT Vader is exactly like AAnakin in the PT, but just that he isn’t just this calm and measured cold and calculating ‘machine’ that so many remembers him being. He snaps at people, he growls when things don’t go as planned, yet overall he tries to present himself as calm and measured, which he succeeds at most of the time. But as G&G says, even Yoda points out that anger is what Vader derives his power from (and this is one of the central theme sof the whole trilogy, even back when they were made), and many times in the OT (especially ANH & ESB) it’s really obvious. The rest of the time it’s more subtle and you have to ‘read between the lines’ as it were and try to think about his motivations. Yes, there’s a lot of ways to show anger in films, but not everything has to be right in your face and Vader’s mask does make it very complicated. Yet there are times when his body language is aggressive, and James Earl Jones’ voice does convey anger and frustration on more than one occasion. There’s many more ways to show anger than to have a character go all apeshit like Kylo does in the ST and smash everything around him.

I don’t think anyone here is trying to argue that Vader isn’t tactical and intelligent, but he is a Sith and he does use his anger as a weapon. Also, keep in mind that this also applies to Palpatine and yet he seems quite calm overall. However, there are moments were his cheerful expressions fade and he shows genuine anger, especially when he’s using Force-lightning on Luke. Which makes perfect sense as it’s very much a destructive Sith power. You could also argue that his maniacal cackling shows his arrogance, pride, and sadism, which is all very Dark Side emotions. An argument could be made that Vader has similar moments of sadistic joy, hence his own dark sense of humour.

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#1397070
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Darth Vader isn't calm in the original trilogy; he has always been very emotional
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I too have often found that people tend to misremember Vader the most when it comes to OT characters (I wonder if the Marvel comics might have had something to do with this?). That’s not to say he isn’t also calm, or perhaps ‘restrained’ is a better word, in the OT, but anger was obviously an important part of what made up the dark side of the Force from very early on. The proto-Vader character of Valorum in the early drafts was actually much more PT Anakin-like in many aspects. I will however say that OT Vader was definitely more calm than he was in ROTS, which makes sense as he’s much older and more experienced later on. That’s a thing that I really liked about Charles Soule’s Vader comic is that he shows Vader gradually becoming less ROTS-like and more like the OT version throughout the series (I haven’t read the following Vader comics so I can’t comment on those). Though either era of Vader is a far cry from the unhinged rage of Kylo Ren in the ST, but I do agree that suggesting that he was always calm in the OT is blatantly misremembering what he was actually like in the OT.

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#1397030
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YouTube/Vimeo/etc... Star Wars video finds
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benduwan said:

yes,i know this all…
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Guide-to-Star-Wars-Documentaries-and-Special-Features/id/75409
so i should say maybe the last 15 years of behind the scene stuff (web uploads, tv specials or so…)
from ep 1 - 9,solo,RO,Mando…

Ah, I see. Well, maybe you’ll find something interesting on this thread:
Beyond the OT Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
It has playlists to all the prequel webisodes, a lot of YouTube featurettes for the Disney era movies, and ABC News documentary on sound in Star Wars, etc. Plenty of Clone Wars and Rebels stuff and a few The Mandalorian videos.
There’s also this thread:
General Star Wars Documentaries (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Pretty much all of these documentaries are TV specials covering either an individual (like George Lucas or Mark Hamill) or focused on Star Wars as a phenomenon. Most of these were made within the last 25 years or so.

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#1396829
Topic
<em>The Mandalorian</em> Discussion Thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
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Rodney-2187 said:

I’m wondering if the pandemic affected the documentary. I really liked everyone sitting around the table last season.

Possibly, but they might just have felt that it wasn’t necessary for this 1 hour format. Since season 1 was so groundbreaking it made sense to make multiple episodes and have a “roundtable discussion” with the creators and cast discussing everything in detail. I obviously wouldn’t have complained about getting more, but I thought it was a nice and succinct summary of season 2 that covered all of the most important points. That is other than the exclusion of the Luke scene, but that was most likely to avoid leaks.

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#1396794
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YouTube/Vimeo/etc... Star Wars video finds
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benduwan said:

hello
i search star wars making of´s not released on any media (LD,Bluray,VHS,DVD…and so far)
from all star wars movies include the mandalorien.
NO fanmades.
help would be appreciate.
thanks

My thread YouTube/Vimeo/etc. finds for Original Trilogy making-ofs, documentaries, promos, etc. has several making ofs that were never released on any home media.

For example:

Michel Parbot’s “The Making of The Empire Strikes Back”:
This one’s quite good, but I don’t think it was ever broadcast. A lot of the footage was repurposed for other programs though.

Some other favourites of mine are:

BBC’s The Risk Business (Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back)

Walter Cronkite’s “Universe” Visits ILM 1980

Horizon - How To Film The Impossible
This is a great one, though it isn’t just Star Wars, it also covers Temple of Doom and 2010: The Year We Make Contact.

SP FX: Special Effects - The Empire Strikes Back
I don’t think this one was ever on any DVD’s or blu-rays. It might have been on laserdisc though.

If you scroll through the thread you should find plenty more.

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#1396789
Topic
<em>The Mandalorian</em> Discussion Thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
Time

It’s interesting that the Disney Gallery special had no clips of Mark Hamill or anything related to Luke’s appearance, so it seems that they really did everything they could to avoid any leaks for the finale. Makes me wonder if they did something similar to ESB were the script that most people got had a different scene, and I’m guessing that they had a very small crew shooting that scene. They might not even have had the entire cast, so it wouldn’t surprise me if some of the actors didn’t even know who they were supposed to react to.

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#1396621
Topic
<em>The Mandalorian</em> Discussion Thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
Time

I completely forgot about the new 1 hour Disney Gallery special for season 2 and just randomly came across this in my YT recommendations. This is not from the official channel and is just a collection of Ahsoka related clips.

Ahsoka Tano Behind the Scenes Star Wars The Mandalorian | Disney+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWAMAeW1L3c - from the Star Wars Coffee YouTube channel

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#1396119
Topic
Small details that took you <em><strong>FOREVER</strong></em> to notice in the <em>Star Wars</em> films
Time

Watching one of the preview recently provided for 4K80 I noticed in the “Lando system” scene that Threepio, who’s shut off in the background, is not a stand-in puppet but actually Daniel’s in costume. Looking really closely I can see him shift slightly as he breathes. Seems kinda odd to have Daniels put on (or keep on) the costume only to have him sit still in the background, though this might have to do with the fact that as the Falcon detaches from the SD, the camera tilts a little and Ford and Fisher both move as if the cockpit itself actually tilts, and Threepio likewise shifts a bit in his seat.

I also noticed that a bit of the view out the cockpit is cut off in the next shot. At the far right of the cockpit windows, near Threepio’s head, there’s a black area where there should be more of the view of the SD and the space trash.

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#1396091
Topic
The Book of Boba Fett
Time

Knight of Kalee said:

captainadano said:

I also think there’s potential for other characters to show up - Cad Bane could be a cool option, if he’s alive. After all, judging by what we’ve seen of that unfinished TCW arc, Bane - if alive - would likely be out to get him.

Indeed! Bane and Boba’s standoff from the cancelled TCW arcs is not considered as canon yet, so maybe it could be reworked into any of the newer projects as long as Filoni’s involved.

I thought all the unfinished stories were considered canon. Or does that only apply to events that have been adapted or mentioned in some other series?

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#1395652
Topic
<em>The Mandalorian</em> Discussion Thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
Time

Wexter said:

rebothejedi said:

Yeah but it doesn’t make sense why they would hire a martial artist to play such an insignificant role

She might be someone’s friend or cousin who happens to be a martial artist…

Or maybe she’s a big SW fan and managed to convince them to give her a minor role in the series.

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#1395620
Topic
<em>The Mandalorian</em> Discussion Thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
Time

Omni said:

Very interesting theory, but since she was just shot in the back in the latest episode without much attention being paid to it… I’m inclined to believe she’s just an Imperial officer.

I just re-watched the scene were they take the bridge and I couldn’t see her in it, though it is a bit hard to make out faces some times. However, there’s no clear shot of her being killed.

I personally think it’s a bit of an odd casting for Sabine anyway, so probably just a SW fan casting (like Paul Sun-Hyung Lee), though it could work, and it would be a fun way of sneaking the character into live-action.

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#1395610
Topic
<em>The Mandalorian</em> Discussion Thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
Time

Any thoughts on this?

Has The Mandalorian Been Hiding A Star Wars Rebels Character In Plain Sight?
https://www.cinemablend.com/television/2560440/has-the-mandalorian-been-hiding-a-star-wars-rebels-character-in-plain-sight?fbclid=IwAR3VZj4QnvyWb9kV_QDdIHTmy1422Wr5zVh5DruYQ0cGSQkUhQRO13-lQIo

A bit far fetched IMO, but hardly impossible considering all the recent announcements (especially the Ahsoka series).

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#1395143
Topic
YouTube/Vimeo/etc. finds for Original Trilogy <strong>making-ofs, documentaries, promos</strong>, etc.
Time

Great find none.

Since Propstore has more than just Star Wars items I decided to compile a list of all the OT videos they’ve made (as of Dec. 2020). I’ve organized them somewhat; the first category being videos that cover several movies or that contain longer interviews. The rest is dived into the three OT films and each “item” placed more or less in order of appearance in the movie.


STAR WARS | Prop Store Nov. 25 2020 LIVE Auction Highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hc5iXdXTgE - (25 mins long).

STAR WARS ORIGINAL TRILOGY - Original Props and Artwork
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a3EkkLgAgk - part of the 2016 Phil Tippett Auction (3 mins long).
STAR WARS EP IV: A NEW HOPE - Original Holochess Creature Sketches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mPgexapc9o - part of the 2016 Phil Tippett Auction (2 mins long).
STAR WARS EP V: THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK - Original AT-AT Walker Animation Notes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL96KQPrS4U - part of the 2016 Phil Tippett Auction (2 mins long).
STAR WARS EP V: THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK - Original Tauntaun Sketches and Notes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaYeXJfCbv8 - part of the 2016 Phil Tippett Auction (2 mins long).
STAR WARS EP V: THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK - Dennis Muren’s Hand-Written Camera Diagrams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SoT1aLCddw - part of the 2016 Phil Tippett Auction (2 mins long).
Various Storyboards and Artwork from the STAR WARS Trilogy (1977-1983)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt97I1z5mC8 - (5 mins long).
Various Storyboard Lots from STAR WARS: THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK (1980) and RETURN OF THE JEDI (1983)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=388catzUd2c - (4:40 mins long).
Lot #727 Syd Wragg Interview - Screen-matched Tantive IV Stormtrooper Helmet spotlight video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1blScCJ8pc - (4:15 mins long).
Lot #727 Syd Wragg Interview - Screen-matched Tantive IV Stormtrooper Helmet [Extended Cut]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOS1ZMgv6g4 - (22 mins long).

Lot #709 STAR WARS: A NEW HOPE (1977) - Luke Skywalker’s (Mark Hamill) Production-Made Lightsaber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir4pxbbFy-Q - (20 sec long).
Lot 306 Star Wars: A New Hope - C-3PO (Anthony Daniels) Costume Hand Pair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utsMk_uQUKQ - (1:30 mins long).
Lot #447 STAR WARS: A NEW HOPE (1977) - Stormtrooper Helmet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwPtgEQX0xE - (30 sec long).
Lot 422 - STAR WARS: A NEW HOPE (1977) - TIE Fighter Pilot Helmet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLdC3lLqb4M - (50 sec long).
Lot 423 - STAR WARS: A NEW HOPE (1977) - ILM Motion Control ‘Rama’ Camera
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmoiJ5NP6xQ - (3:30 mins long).
Lot 373 Star Wars: A New Hope (1977) - Over-Sized Death Star Surface Panel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8EloC-WENk - (1 min long).
Princess Leia Medal Ceremony Dress | Prop Store
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykVIDWTROmE - (40 sec long).

Lot 430 - STAR WARS: THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK (1980) - Walker Head Dyeline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkwCZNiyHlI - (40 sec long).
Lot 431 - STAR WARS: THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK (1980) - Walker Head Dyelines with Joe Johnston Notes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3YVot0vh2w - (40 sec long).
Lot 317 Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back - Empireflex Norway Camera Cover Display
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmas_NacFQc - (1 min long).
Lot #463 STAR WARS: THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK (1980) Han Solo’s (Harrison Ford) Jacket
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug-O38UHsTU - (7 mins long).
Lot 391 Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back (1980) - Stormtrooper Helmet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07s2PJHiqAk - (1 min long).
Prop Store Of London Empire Strikes Back E 11 Blaster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6TlLMFMHx4 - (1:15mins long).
Lot 432 - STAR WARS: THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK (1980) - Imperial Walker Model Miniature Head Casting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SszxGsUWntY - (1 min long).
Lot 448 - STAR WARS THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK (1980) - X-Wing ILM Model Miniature
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LpgVrtWp10 - (3 mins long).
Comic Con Minute Original Star Wars 3CPO hand presented by The Propstore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=497kgHQ8ohA - (2:40 mins long).
Prop Store Of London Star Wars Rebel Blaster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVX3odMuMLA - (1:40 mins long).
Lot #472 - STAR WARS: THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK (1980) - Darth Vader Promotional Tour Helmet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_b11PGzQHM - (30 sec long).
Lot #471 - STAR WARS: THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK (1980) - Sprocket Systems KEM 35mm Film Editing Table
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwQ641zdbLA - (1 min long).

STAR WARS: RETURN OF THE JEDI (1983) - Various Crew Apparel Lots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8nU1Nn1t8Q - (1:20 mins long).
Lot 326 Star Wars: Return of the Jedi - Gamorrean Guard Head Casting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmn1cQPsd3I - (50 sec long).
Lot 327 Star Wars: Return of the Jedi - Jabba the Hutt’s Barge Gargoyle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS1ArqanJDY - (1:15 mins long).
Lot 330 Star Wars Return of the Jedi - Biker Scout Helmet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARK_ZGCsMYw - (1:30 mins long).
Lot #490 - STAR WARS: RETURN OF THE JEDI (1983) - ILM Y-Wing Model Miniature
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amWetQavw4E - (2 mins long).
Lot 476 - STAR WARS: RETURN OF THE JEDI (1983) - Low Altitude Death Star Turbo Cannon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O736xRYt3Ik - (40 sec long).
Lot 477 - STAR WARS: RETURN OF THE JEDI (1983) - Low Altitude Death Star Turbo Cannon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC8hgmJASy4 - (50 sec long).
Lot 409 Star Wars: Return of the Jedi (1983) - Anakin Skywalker Facial Appliances and Lifecast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYF6w6LLOvQ - (1 min long).

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#1394752
Topic
YouTube/Vimeo/etc. finds for Original Trilogy <strong>making-ofs, documentaries, promos</strong>, etc.
Time

Celebrating 40 Years of Empire: Behind the Scenes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yix_9g_Ob74&t - from the official Star Wars YouTube channel (7 mins long).

The blurb:
“See never-before-seen on-set footage and outtakes from Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back, with commentary by members of the cast and crew who brought the first Star Wars sequel to life. Featured are rare behind-the-scenes moments captured by the film’s documentary crew, including the frozen exteriors of Hoth, the Rebel base hangar, interiors of the Millennium Falcon, Cloud City, and the film’s climactic duel between Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker. Also included is an all-new and archival audio commentary by George Lucas, Mark Hamill, Anthony Daniels, Billy Dee Williams, and Lawrence Kasdan.”

Celebrating 40 Years of Empire: The Legacy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ua2v64mh9o&t - from the official Star Wars YouTube channel (5:30 mins long).

The blurb:
“The talent and production crews keeping the Star Wars legacy alive today look back at Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back to share their thoughts and memories of the film that transformed the Star Wars story into a saga. This brief featurette includes humorous outtakes and behind-the-scenes footage, with all-new commentary by Kathleen Kennedy, Dave Filoni, Bryce Dallas Howard, Pedro Pascal, Deborah Chow, Leslye Headland, Taika Waititi, and Diego Luna.”