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#1435405
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<strong>Star Wars: The Bad Batch</strong> (animated series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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RogueLeader said:

Despite everything I’ve said, there could be a really great benefit for things working out well for them in this episode. All of their procedures being successful might lead them to believe they could do the same thing to Crosshair and he will go back to “normal” after the procedure, just like Wrecker did. What would be great is if they somehow incapacitate Crosshair and remove his chip, but once he comes to, he is still loyal to the Empire.

That’s a really cool idea that would definitely shake up the Batch a fair bit, and it would be a pretty interesting exploration of the clones and their individuality and sense of free will.

Now I don’t kind the show keeping it simple and resolving things quickly, but I was a little surprised at how few consequences there was to Wrecker’s inhibitor chip moment. It worked, so I’m not really complaining, but I had expected a bit more. Though there’s still a lot they can do with it overall, and for all we know this could simply be a false sense of security, especially since we’re due another Crosshair episode soon. Overall I think this show has struck a great a balance between the classic episodic style of TV series while also having an overarching narrative.

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#1435353
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<strong>Star Wars: The Bad Batch</strong> (animated series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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JackNapier said:

Heavy dislike on the idea of nerfing/punishing characters just to advance the plot.

I’m not quite sure what you mean. Isn’t that kinda the point of all types of storytelling? I mean punishing a character just for the hell of it would be bad, but if it served the plot then that’s simply the logical thing to do.

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#1435027
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<strong>The Book Of Boba Fett</strong> (live action series) - a general discussion thread
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‘The Book of Boba Fett’ is ‘The Mandalorian’ “Season 2.5”; Mando Season 3 to Start Filming Late 2021/Early 2022
https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2021/06/boba-fett-wraps-obi-wan-kenobi-filming.html

“Collider has reported that The Book of Boba Fett has officially wrapped filming. The series is scheduled to debut this December on Disney Plus. It has been filmed on the same stage as The Mandalorian, and the first season is said to be a sort of stopgap between the second and third seasons of The Mandalorian, even referred to as “The Mandalorian Season 2.5″ by Collider‘s sources.”

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#1434650
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<strong>The Mandalorian</strong> - a general discussion thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
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jedi_bendu said:

My feelings on Mando season 2 have actually soured over the past few months. Part of that is maybe bitterness at how much Disney seems to be capitalising on its success, and that possibly taking away from a future for animated shows, but in general I’ve come to see the plot of season 2 as too contrived. It’s playing join the dots with its special character appearances, there are too many coincidences, the sidequest structure is a little formulaic, and when Grogu gets kidnapped it’s not actually as emotionally compelling as it should be. Season 2 has some of my favourite episodes - The Marshal, The Heiress and The Believer, and I still find those outstanding - but now I might prefer season 1.

I’m not necessarily disagreeing, but I do feel that a loot of these are problems that come with all types of storytelling after a certain amount of time. Plus, since modern series are less episodic and more like very long movies cut up into smaller pieces, I feel this way about most streaming series. Ironically The Mandalorian gets criticized by some for being too episodic, and compared to something like GOT it’s much more retro in this regard, though it does still have that single overarching narrative. I personally wouldn’t have minded if it was even more episodic, but I suppose that would have alienated a lot of the modern audience.

Also, as for the use of EU characters, as I’ve said previously in this tread, the real irony about it all is that it’s only SW geeks like us that actually know that they are EU characters in the first place, so it’s only us who can get thrilled or annoyed about their inclusion. Both my mother and uncle watch the show (both are in their sixties), and like most casual fans of their age they only remember the basic gist of the OT movies (and maybe a little of the PT), and they were both quite surprised when I mentioned that season 2 had several “guest-characters” from other SW shows.

Could season 2 have been just as good or better without these characters, sure. But to me personally it didn’t sour my enjoyment of the show, and I though they managed to integrate them all into Din’s character arc really well. I think both Bo Katan and Boba Fett were characters that made sense in Din’s journey to learn what it really means to be a mandalorian. Ahsoka was a bit more random, but it too had that episodic side-quest feel to it, and even acted as a bit of a mini-backdoor pilot of sorts.

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#1434649
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<strong>The Mandalorian</strong> - a general discussion thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
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Now that this thread is open again I can finally share some videos that previously posted in the Beyond the OT Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds) thread.


Behind the Magic: The Visual Effects of The Mandalorian Season 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb6Aww3LIDE - from the official ILMVFX YouTube channel (3:30 mins long).

The blurb:
“Visual effects work on The Mandalorian was completed in all five of ILM’s studios (San Francisco, Singapore, Vancouver, London, and Sydney) as well as a contingent of other vendors under ILM’s supervision. The season’s 8 episodes encompassed nearly 5,000 visual effects shots in addition to all of ILM’s real-time effects work done for use during principal photography. The effects team leveraged virtually every trick in the book, from miniatures and motion control to traditional puppeteering, advanced animatronics, spectacular special effects, and photo-real CG. Here’s a sampling of ILM’s post visual effects work done for the series that garnered ILM 13 Visual Effects Society Award nominations.”

The Virtual Production of The Mandalorian, Season Two
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gX4N5rDYeQ - from the ILMVFX YouTube channel (7 mins long).

The blurb:
“For the second season of Lucasfilm’s hit Disney+ series, The Mandalorian, Industrial Light & Magic reengineered their StageCraft virtual production platform rolling out version 2.0 in which ILM introduced among other things, Helios, Industrial Light & Magic’s first cinematic render engine designed for real-time visual effects. Engineered from the ground up with film and television production in mind, Helios offers incredible performance, high fidelity real-time ray tracing, the ability to rip through scenes of unparalleled complexity, all while leveraging ILM’s unrivaled color science, and was designed from the start to work seamlessly with ILM StageCraft.
The purpose-built, production-hardened platform allows filmmakers to explore new ideas, communicate concepts, and execute shots in a collaborative and flexible production environment.”

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#1434437
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The Random YouTube, Vimeo etc. video finds thread for Beyond the OT
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The first 10 minutes of this video gives a pretty solid breakdown of how the volume worked on The Mandalorian S01-02.

VFX Artists React to Bad & Great CGi 45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea9xIxbB1lA - from the Corridor Crew YouTube channel (17 mins long).

The blurb:
“Niko and Wren are joined by Felix Jorge from Happy Mushroom to sit down to break down the best (and worst) VFX in your favorite Hollywood movies!”

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#1434259
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<strong>Star Wars: The Bad Batch</strong> (animated series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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sade1212 said:

Episode 6 Spoilers

I appreciate the chutzpah in bringing Trace and Rafa back despite the backlash (though I suppose this was probably in development before TCW S7 came out) - I do prefer it when Star Wars doesn’t go out of its way to acquiesce to internet moaning. Who could the cloaked hologram man be? Bail? Rex?

My immediate thought was Bail as well, but after thinking about it a bit I figured Ahsoka makes more sense as she already knows them (and since she’s the fan favourite that Filoni seems to incorporate into nearly everything he makes).

I admittedly got a tad annoyed at first when I recognized Trace and Rafa, but I think they worked really well in this episode. Trace especially seems to have matured a bit as a character, so I don’t really mind if they’ll both return in later episodes. There wasn’t really anything blatantly bad about the two characters, but their arc in TCW season 7 felt a bit too silly and pointless compared to the rest of the season, and the fact that it was the final season of the series and that there were several better unfinished story arcs most fans would rather see completed instead didn’t exactly help.

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#1432755
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<strong>Star Wars: The Bad Batch</strong> (animated series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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I think StarWarsExplained did a good summary of the question; https://youtu.be/38XI8YyekGA?t=155

It’s probably meant to imply that it’s the same rancor for more casual fans, but as for actual EU lore they’ll probably give some explanation of it at some point. This series does after all take place almost 25 years prior to ROTJ, so it’s reasonable to assume that Rancors could have too short a lifespan for Muchi and Pateesa to be the same creature. Though of course this is SW, so for all we know Rancors could live for centuries.

BTW, am I the only one who got a bit of a Kaiju film vibe from the fight between Muchi and the Brezak? There something about Muchi grabbing it by the tail and slamming it to the ground that reminded me of one of the old Godzilla or Gamera films, though I can’t remember which one.

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#1431233
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Making-Of Documentaries - YouTube/Vimeo/etc. finds
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Amazing! Exploring the Far Reaches of Forbidden Planet (2006)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owxqZoIXEmM - from the Groovy Flicks YouTube channel (26 mins long)

The blurb:
“A documentary about the making of, and legacy of, the Forbidden Planet movie.”

IMDb link

MGM’s Forbidden Planet (1956) TV Promo with Walter Pidgeon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP4unLvbOD4 - from the Robby The Robot YouTube channel (2 mins long).

The blurb:
“MGM Parade (1956) s1e28: Walter Pidgeon promotes film ‘Forbidden Planet’; dressed in character, as Dr. Edward Morbius.”

Meet Robby! (The Robot from Forbidden Planet) MGM TV Promo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi5GE9zFqKA - from the Robby The Robot YouTube channel (4 mins long).

The blurb:
“MGM Parade (1956) s1e28: Walter Pidgeon (as Dr. Edward Morbius) introduces “Robby” The Robot from sci-fi classic ‘Forbidden Planet’!”

The Inner Workings of Robby the Robot from Forbidden Planet (introduction by Forrest Ackerman)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d17qbSIEx70 - from the William Forsche Youube channel (6:30 mins long).

The blurb:
“Forry Ackerman introduces William Malone and Robby the Robot from Forbidden Planet. Bill Malone is kind enough to give us a guided tour into Robby’s background and also shows the robot’s inner (and outer) workings.”

The Lost Footage of Forbidden Planet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G759N0FyCvM - from the Robby The Robot YouTube channel (9 mins long).

The blurb:
“Rare Test Footage that has spent over 50 years locked away in various film faults.”

Forbidden Planet - Deleted Scenes/Outtakes/Alternate Footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Rz1aD4I3Z0- from the Robby The Robot YouTube channel (13 mins long).

The blurb:
“Deleted Scenes, Outtakes, Plus Alternate Footage (Opening Scene + Ending)”

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#1431114
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<strong>Star Wars: The Bad Batch</strong> (animated series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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jedi_bendu said:

I liked the smaller scale of the spaceport in Cut and Run, but I agree - certainly with ‘Replacements’. However, I don’t think it matters - judging from the trailers, we’ve got some very creative and interesting locations to come, from an ornate-looking palace-like building to a misty expansive star destroyer graveyard (which could be bracca?).

I agree, the first two episodes were great, and I have no real complaints about “Replacements” either, but I prefer bustling spaceports over barren moons, even if the energy-eating dragon was pretty neat.

I do look forward to seeing Zygerria as was teased in the trailer. Considering how much trouble Omega has gotten into already, and how the Bad Batch clearly will have to deal with the moral gray zones of being mercenaries as the show moves on, I’m really curious to see how they end up involved with the Zygerrian slavers.

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#1431105
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<strong>Star Wars: The Bad Batch</strong> (animated series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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jedi_bendu said:

It’s a shame it’s so quiet in this thread.

That’s probably a good thing. The more people have to say about a show it usually means there’s a lot that people disapprove of and need to argue about. Either that or there’s a lot of theorizing relating to lore and story developments, but we all more-or-less know how the lore is going to develop with this series, and unlike The Mandalorian with the mystery of Grogu’s past, or the future of the darksaber, etc. there’s not all that much to talk about beyond what Omega’s enhancements are.


On a completely unrelated note though, I was quite surprised by the depiction of Pantora. Maybe I remember some elements of TCW wrong, but based on the Pantorans we saw I always imagined it to be more of a Naboo-esque planet. Though I’m not complaining as I really love these seedier type of bazaar-like locations with lots of aliens and droids. I’m also glad to see the show turn more towards populated locales. The previous episodes have been really good, but the settings have been a tad underwhelming.

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#1431054
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YouTube/Vimeo/etc... Star Wars video finds
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The Millennium Falcon is in Star Trek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=904MmOKafiE - from the EC Henry YouTube channel (6 mins long).

The blurb:
“The Millennium Falcon is one of the most iconic ships in science fiction. But turns out that it’s actually a canon ship in Star Trek as well! But maybe we can redesign it.”

Previous EC Henry restoration and redesign videos posted in the Random OT Videos thread:

The Coolest Rebel Starship You’ve Never Heard Of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfSfGiSSWkU - from the EC Henry YouTube channel (8 mins long)

The blurb:
“Lurking in a corner of the frame for decades… is a Rebel starship that has never gotten the recognition it deserves!
Let’s explore this awesome starship!”

The Unsung Hero of Hoth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa3vDAB47f4 - from the EC Henry YouTube channel (3 mins long)

The blurb:
“This obscure vehicle has been hiding in The Empire Strikes Back under our noses from the very beginning. Unfortunately, this awesome little vehicle has only gotten minimal recognition. Time to change that!”

The Secret CORELLIAN CORVETTE in Return of the Jedi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhalNJJPc3o - from the EC Henry YouTube channel (7:40 mins long)

The blurb:
“For almost 4 decades, a secret Corellian Corvette variant has been hiding in plain sight in Return of the Jedi. Join us on an exciting exploration of this ship, including a fan interpretation of the ship brought to life!”

The Secret Mystery TIE FIGHTER in Return of the Jedi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYpbVrXFSqQ&t - from the EC Henry YouTube channel (6:45 mins long)

The blurb:
“We might think that we’ve seen every ship in Star Wars… but there are always new discoveries! In this case, possibly an entirely new variant of TIE fighter.”

Making a Civilian T-47 Snowspeeder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xqUbRKrjUo - from the EC Henry YouTube channel (4 mins long).

The blurb:
“The snowspeeder is an iconic Star Wars vehicle, but canonically it was developed from a stock civilian airspeeder. In this video, I design what that might look like.”

The Most Obscure Rebel Ship in Star Wars?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeA777Ru7aI - from the EC Henry YouTube channel (10 mins long)

The blurb:
“So many canonical Original Trilogy ships have been totally forgotten by official Star Wars media. It’s my goal to restore them all to their rightful place!”

Three Rebel Ships That Star Wars Forgot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5b0cxF8HOE - from the EC Henry YouTube channel (6 mins long)

The blurb:
"You might think you know every ship in the Rebel Alliance fleet, but there are ships in the original Star Wars trilogy that have somehow evaded detection for decades. I’ve brought three Rebel “mystery ships” to life. "

The Ugliest Rebel Ship You’ve NEVER Heard of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsLocVDui6Y - from the EC Henry YouTube channel (5 mins long)

The blurb:
"It’s amazing that there are canonical ships in the original Star Wars trilogy that are completely neglected. Come explore a completely unexplored ship of the Rebel Alliance! "

The Mon Cal Cruiser You Never Knew Existed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtozC1NLZY8 - from the EC Henry YouTube channel (6 mins long)

The blurb:
“Star Wars is full of mysterious ships that for some reason have never been acknolwedged by canon. I explore one such ship today!”

The IMPERIAL Nebulon-B Frigate (Fan design)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz13rwQpUd4&t - from the EC Henry YouTube channel (9 mins long)

The blurb:
“The Nebulon-B has long been considered a Rebel vessel, but canonically this frigate was originally an Imperial vessel. I took on the challenge of creating what that might have looked like.”

TIE Shuttle’s TRUE FORM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VPVxrKCUGg - from the EC Henry YouTube channel (2:40 mins long)

The blurb:
“Star Wars has no shortage of TIE variants. We’ve all been told that the TIE shuttle is essentially just one ship re-purposed as another. But… the truth is a little more interesting! Let’s explore the TIE Shuttle’s true form!”

The ORIGINAL Star Destroyer: Colin Cantwell’s Design Reborn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZLAtGu3-98&list=PLYn2a0e2FVIKni_wHXR5CJYBnnnYH7mIB&index=146&t - from the EC Henry YouTube channel (5 mins long)

The blurb:
“Many fans of Star Wars don’t know the name Colin Cantwell, but they should. He designed almost every ship in the original film, including the Star Destroyer, which began its life as a very interesting design. Let’s explore that design and maybe we can bring it to life.”

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#1428821
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<strong>Star Wars: The Bad Batch</strong> (animated series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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Cthulhunicron said:

JakeRyan17 said:

Clones, with two exceptions, grow at double the rate of other humans, by design to have a large batch of adults in 10 years.

Seems like they wouldn’t be able to grow very many clones in 4 years. Don’t they say in AOTC that the army was 200,000 strong with 1 million on the way?

For some reason I thought they’d established there were 5 years between AOTC and ROTS.

I just checked on Wookieepedia and Sifo Dyas was killed exactly 10 years before the start of the clone wars, so by the time of AOTC the oldest clones would be about ten years old, i.e. the equivalent of a human in his early twenties. So it makes sense that they’d have a bunch of teenagers almost ready to become soldiers at this time. And of course we see a lot of clone children in both AOTC and TCW, as well as in The Bad Batch.

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#1428480
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The <strong>random YouTube / Vimeo etc video finds</strong> thread for the Original Trilogy
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Another great ‘mystery starship’ video by EC Henry & Angelos Karderinis, this time with some animation by Ryan Fletcher.

The Coolest Rebel Starship You’ve Never Heard Of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfSfGiSSWkU - from the EC Henry YouTube channel (8 mins long)

The blurb:
“Lurking in a corner of the frame for decades… is a Rebel starship that has never gotten the recognition it deserves!
Let’s explore this awesome starship!”

Previous EC Henry restoration and redesign videos posted in this thread:

The Unsung Hero of Hoth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa3vDAB47f4 - from the EC Henry YouTube channel (3 mins long)

The blurb:
“This obscure vehicle has been hiding in The Empire Strikes Back under our noses from the very beginning. Unfortunately, this awesome little vehicle has only gotten minimal recognition. Time to change that!”

The Secret CORELLIAN CORVETTE in Return of the Jedi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhalNJJPc3o - from the EC Henry YouTube channel (7:40 mins long)

The blurb:
“For almost 4 decades, a secret Corellian Corvette variant has been hiding in plain sight in Return of the Jedi. Join us on an exciting exploration of this ship, including a fan interpretation of the ship brought to life!”

The Secret Mystery TIE FIGHTER in Return of the Jedi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYpbVrXFSqQ&t - from the EC Henry YouTube channel (6:45 mins long)

The blurb:
“We might think that we’ve seen every ship in Star Wars… but there are always new discoveries! In this case, possibly an entirely new variant of TIE fighter.”

Making a Civilian T-47 Snowspeeder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xqUbRKrjUo - from the EC Henry YouTube channel (4 mins long).

The blurb:
“The snowspeeder is an iconic Star Wars vehicle, but canonically it was developed from a stock civilian airspeeder. In this video, I design what that might look like.”

The Most Obscure Rebel Ship in Star Wars?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeA777Ru7aI - from the EC Henry YouTube channel (10 mins long)

The blurb:
“So many canonical Original Trilogy ships have been totally forgotten by official Star Wars media. It’s my goal to restore them all to their rightful place!”

Three Rebel Ships That Star Wars Forgot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5b0cxF8HOE - from the EC Henry YouTube channel (6 mins long)

The blurb:
"You might think you know every ship in the Rebel Alliance fleet, but there are ships in the original Star Wars trilogy that have somehow evaded detection for decades. I’ve brought three Rebel “mystery ships” to life. "

The Ugliest Rebel Ship You’ve NEVER Heard of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsLocVDui6Y - from the EC Henry YouTube channel (5 mins long)

The blurb:
"It’s amazing that there are canonical ships in the original Star Wars trilogy that are completely neglected. Come explore a completely unexplored ship of the Rebel Alliance! "

The Mon Cal Cruiser You Never Knew Existed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtozC1NLZY8 - from the EC Henry YouTube channel (6 mins long)

The blurb:
“Star Wars is full of mysterious ships that for some reason have never been acknolwedged by canon. I explore one such ship today!”

The IMPERIAL Nebulon-B Frigate (Fan design)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz13rwQpUd4&t - from the EC Henry YouTube channel (9 mins long)

The blurb:
“The Nebulon-B has long been considered a Rebel vessel, but canonically this frigate was originally an Imperial vessel. I took on the challenge of creating what that might have looked like.”

TIE Shuttle’s TRUE FORM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VPVxrKCUGg - from the EC Henry YouTube channel (2:40 mins long)

The blurb:
“Star Wars has no shortage of TIE variants. We’ve all been told that the TIE shuttle is essentially just one ship re-purposed as another. But… the truth is a little more interesting! Let’s explore the TIE Shuttle’s true form!”

The ORIGINAL Star Destroyer: Colin Cantwell’s Design Reborn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZLAtGu3-98&list=PLYn2a0e2FVIKni_wHXR5CJYBnnnYH7mIB&index=146&t - from the EC Henry YouTube channel (5 mins long)

The blurb:
“Many fans of Star Wars don’t know the name Colin Cantwell, but they should. He designed almost every ship in the original film, including the Star Destroyer, which began its life as a very interesting design. Let’s explore that design and maybe we can bring it to life.”

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#1428290
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<strong>Star Wars: The Bad Batch</strong> (animated series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
Time

JakeRyan17 said:

Based on Cut’s family, and how old his kids were in The Deserter, there could even be more time for the war than 5 years.

I’d say 5 years makes sense based on the new designs for Jek and Shaeeah, especially the former. I can see Jek being about five years old in TCW season 2 episode and nine or ten in the latest episode.

Even Cut has aged a fair bit, such as his hair having started to grey a little, but he’s a clone after all so it only makes sense that he’d age must faster. Speaking of clone aging, and since we’re on the topic of SW timelines, has it ever been established how fast the clones grown compared to regular people? I figured they’d have to at east age twice as fast as normal humans, which would make sense for Rex’s old age in Rebels, provided he was one of the first clones grown.

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#1428259
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<strong>Star Wars: The Bad Batch</strong> (animated series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
Time

JakeRyan17 said:

I mean, Filoni’s series doesn’t line up with Genndy’s almost at all. Ventress only has one major appearance, and it’s suggested she dies.

The old canon’s tiered system of some things retconning others made it so that Filoni’s team tried to avoid Genndy’s timeframe as much as possible, but Anakin’s knighting leads almost directly into the Battle of Coruscant, by the way it’s structured. It’s a bit messy, but Filoni tries not to retcon anything if he can help it, but will do whatever he thinks is best for a story.

I think the old EU has established multiple timeframes for the Clone Wars, I’ve seen 2 years, 3 years, and 4 years published, but I don’t think anything in the new Canon has been said officially. And even if it had, that might be hanging out with Ahsoka’s green lightsabers and the red paint job on the clone armour when Caleb/Kanan experienced Order 66.

I always got the impression that the whole “pitch” for Filoni’s TCW was that it would fit within the montage after Anakin’s knighting which suggested the passage of several years (which is why they kept the overall style of Tartakovsky’s series, but made it 3D). The “death” of Ventress’ in the 2D series is debatable however, but yes, Lucas and Filoni didn’t seem to care much for continuity with the EU overall back when they started making the series. IIRC some of the writers even quit during the firs two years because they kept retconning the EU. Either way, this all just adds to the absolute bonkers continuity of all things clone wars related both now and (especially) then.

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#1428255
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<strong>Star Wars: The Bad Batch</strong> (animated series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
Time

JakeRyan17 said:

ZkinandBonez said:

JakeRyan17 said:

The Bad Batch arc is about 6 months prior to RotS, and is a part of the Outer Arun Sieges. That’s why Parme still isn’t really showing in the hologram, though she knows and was about to tell Anakin.

The Trace/Rafa arc is about 2 1/2 to 3 months before that, when Anakin leaves for the Outer Rim sieges.

So basically most of TCW stories are crammed into three years or so of the clone war, while there’s roughly six months (or more?) of untold stories predating the events shown in season 1 (though technically it was originally shown in the Tartakovsky series before it was de-canonized) and about six months or so between the start and finish of TCW season 7?

For context I’m referring to Anakin being knighted and having time to grow his long hair (plus gain his scar) when I’m talking about pre season 1 events. Maybe six months is a bit of a stretch, but it would have to at the very least be a couple of months?

Different people will tell you different timeframes of The Clone Wars, what’s generally accepted by people working on those shows is that it’s roughly five years. This allows Ashoka to grow over the course of the series from roughly 12 to roughly 17. As far as the timeframe prior to Ahsoka’s arrival, be that “pre-Season 1” or the parts of Genndy’s series that haven’t been contradicted, is less established, and I’d guess was only a couple of months.

Right, though for some weird reason I always thought the clone war was canonically four years long. Maybe that’s a Legends thing? Five years makes a fair bit more sense though, but I still find it odd that Anakin was knighted, scarred by (presumably) Ventress, and grew his hair to shoulder length in just a couple of months all between AOTC and TCW season 1.

I still think it’s funny how Lucasfilm keeps expanding everything Filoni-related, but keep ignoring the pre TCW season 1 events, leaving both Ventress’ and Grievous’s first appearances as untold stories. Though I personally find a certain charm in the absolute canonical mess that is the connection between the two clone wars series and how Filoni’s series (most of it anyway) technically exist in both canons.

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<strong>Star Wars: The Bad Batch</strong> (animated series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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JakeRyan17 said:

The Bad Batch arc is about 6 months prior to RotS, and is a part of the Outer Arun Sieges. That’s why Parme still isn’t really showing in the hologram, though she knows and was about to tell Anakin.

The Trace/Rafa arc is about 2 1/2 to 3 months before that, when Anakin leaves for the Outer Rim sieges.

So basically most of TCW stories are crammed into three years or so of the clone war, while there’s roughly six months (or more?) of untold stories predating the events shown in season 1 (though technically it was originally shown in the Tartakovsky series before it was de-canonized) and about six months or so between the start and finish of TCW season 7?

For context I’m referring to Anakin being knighted and having time to grow his long hair (plus gain his scar) when I’m talking about pre season 1 events. Maybe six months is a bit of a stretch, but it would have to at the very least be a couple of months?

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#1428183
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<strong>Star Wars: The Bad Batch</strong> (animated series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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I only just now realized that they changed Echo’s armor to match the rest of the Bad Batch instead of sticking to the white one he got in TCW season 7.

It’s hardly a new thing that exact timelines can be a bit confusing and/or inconsistent with SW, but some of the lines from the last episode (especially Echo’s line about the smell in their quarters suggesting that he’s been to Kamino with the Bad Batch at least once before), as well as how the Siege of Mandalore in the TCW season 7 finale is meant to connect to ROTS, makes me wonder just how much time is supposed to have transpired between the Bad Batch TCW arc and the Bad Batch series.


Also, the latest episode was quite good. Nothing too special, but it made sense to add a simpler, calmer episode after all that happened in the movie-length last episode. I did like the chain code tie-in to the Mandalorian. These things can often feel quite pointless, but it added to both the conflict of the episode and the exploration of authoritarianism that’s one of the main themes of this series.

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#1427511
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The Beyond the OT Trailers/Promos Thread (YouTube/Vimeo, etc. finds)
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The Bad Batch - Official Disney+ Trailer (2021)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsOmYpP4UDU - from the official Star Wars YouTube channel (2 mins long).

The blurb:
“Check out the brand-new trailer for Lucasfilm’s “Star Wars: The Bad Batch,” an original animated series launching exclusively on Disney+. “Star Wars: The Bad Batch” makes its debut on Tuesday, May 4, with a special 70-minute premiere, followed by new episodes every Friday starting on May 7.”


The Bad Batch - Disney+ Featurette (2021)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZGrq9lCB7g - from the official Star Wars YouTube channel (1:30 mins long).

The blurb:
“Star Wars: The Bad Batch follows the elite and experimental clones of the Bad Batch (first introduced in The Clone Wars) as they find their way in a rapidly changing galaxy in the immediate aftermath of the Clone War. Members of Bad Batch—a unique squad of clones who vary genetically from their brothers in the Clone Army—each possess a singular exceptional skill that makes them extraordinarily effective soldiers and a formidable crew.”


The Batch is Back - Disney+ Promo (2021)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUwKQMiT5vc - from the official Star Wars YouTube channel (30 secs long).

The blurb:
“The batch is back. Celebrate May the 4th and stream the premiere of Star Wars: The Bad Batch now on Disney+.”


For Hire: The Bad Batch - Disney+ Promo (2021)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttn3vvwU0f0- from the official Star Wars YouTube channel (30 secs long).

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#1427482
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<strong>Disney+</strong> streaming platform : <strong>Star Wars content</strong> &amp; various other info
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Still no Vintage Collection available in Norway (and presumably the rest of Scandinavia as well). Today seemed like an obvious time to release it, but it seems to just be the same as the US got, so at least the Bad Batch wasn’t postponed like The Mandalorian and TCW season 7 was, but it is quite frustrating how hard it is to get any proper news on this.

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<strong>Star Wars: The Bad Batch</strong> (animated series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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Ed Slushie said:

ZkinandBonez said:

MINOR SPOILER:
As a side note, I think it’s interesting how it re-wrote the moment from the Kaanan comics a few years back when Caleb witness the clones turn on his master. It’s technically not all that different; it’s mostly just the tone and setting that changed, but I’m glad that they’re not being too uptight about canon. I’d much rather have Filoni tell his story rather than have them force him to recreate a moment from a comic down to every little detail. Plus, I really enjoy watching Filoni’s corner of the EU connect like this, while at the same time you can easily watch The Bad Batch without having seen Rebels.

I just with they hadn’t brought back a 45-year-old man to voice a 14-year-old boy.
A great episode overall, though.

It sounded fine enough to me, though yes, it did stand out a little as I recognized the voice. However, I feel like they did something to the audio to make him sound younger? I was thinking it was perhaps something similar to what they did with Mark Hamill’s voice for The Mandalorian, but it might just have been pitch shifted a little to make him sound a bit more like a teenager.