ray_afraid said:
Duracell thinks all lightsabers should be multicolored glow sticks.
It's his fetish.
Well this should make him happy then:
DuracellEnergizer said:
ZkinandBonez said:
ATMachine said:
I wish Uprising was a 'Kyle Katarn' game.
Blue lightsaber. Bleech.
Kyle's lightsaber was always blue. Except for in Dark Forces II, but that wasn't his lightsaber. That belonged to Qu Rahn.
ATMachine said:
I wish Uprising was a 'Kyle Katarn' game.
Well now I'm definitively interested to see what that game really is about. I'm especially curious about the Hutt on Bespin and their explanation for that. Also, why Hoth? Can't be much left there but ruins and wreckage. I guess we'll just to to wait and see if it all makes any sense.
joefavs said:
^oh, I thought we were talking about whether the Star Wars: Uprising game that was just announced makes sense with the timeline of the SE, since some of it takes place on a still-Imperial Bespin immediately after the battle of Endor.
Edit: oh wait, you are talking about that. I'm sorry, I'm on a phone and paying attention to five different things right now.
Actually I'm not quite sure what we are talking about. Bespin? I was talking about Coruscant, because someone mentioned the uprising. However now that I re-watched the trailer it does look like they're on Bespin at some point. Or at least it looks like Cloud City in the background. I find it kind of strange to see a Hutt on Bespin however. I guess there's more than one floating city in the SW universe. If it is on Bespin however then you're right in that is kind of looks like it messes up the canon, unless of course all the shots from ROTJ's SE ending is as you suggested weeks or months apart and in the future.
joefavs said:
Couldn't you read the ROTJ celebration footage as flash forwards? I find it hard to believe that news could travel fast enough for the Bespin/Coruscant/Naboo/Tatooine stuff to be literally be happening concurrently with the festivities on Endor, so what's to say that those scenes don't happen weeks or months later (as opposed to the handful of days most people seem to assume)? If we're flashing forward either way there's no reason a short increment of time should be more valid than a longer one. And Bespin is the only planet shown that has anything to do with this Uprising game. I think that as long as there isn't a definite timestamp on that shot, fitting the new game into the timeline isnt a huge stretch.
I also find it hard to believe that a small backwards planet such as Tatooine would bother to coordinate their freedom celebration on the exact same day as Naboo or Corsuscant. However I don't think anyone here is suggesting that the celebration footage was meant to happen on the same day as the second Death Star blew up, but I doubt that it would be as much as months after the fact. Of course it hard to estimate just how long news travels in the SW universe. But for the sake of nitpicking, I can't help feel that Coruscant would have some way of getting the news pretty quickly being that it is the Imperial Center. However the trailer suggests that the game might be about stopping the uprising that we saw in ROTJ (SE).
The uprising we're referring to btw is mostly done through suggestion, as well as in the EU. If you look at the SE footage of the Coruscant celebration you can see a stormtrooper being attacked by the crowd and a statue of the emperor being tore down.
Best picture I could find:
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120114004058/starwars/images/8/84/Corsectrooper.jpg
timdiggerm said:
pablumatic said:
Ryan McAvoy said:
Star Wars: Uprising Announce Trailer
^ Trailer for game set between ROTJ and TFA. Probably raises as many questions as it answers about the field of play going into TFA.
This trailer shows the Death Star II blowing up with the ring from the Special Editions.
The SE is still the official canon and all those celebrations shown after the Empire was defeated at Endor that were inserted into RotJ somehow still aren't representative of what actually took place since we're getting sequels set 30+ years later.
One day of celebrations does not yield an entirely new government
I am aware that the EU no longer counts, but from what I recall there was a story where the uprising seen at the end of the SE of ROTJ was eventually stopped by Imperial forces and Coruscant was put back under Imperial control. Even though that specific story may no longer count, I'm sure Disney's new canon is going in a similar direction. This game seems like it's telling a similar story.
pablumatic said:
Ryan McAvoy said:
Star Wars: Uprising Announce Trailer
^ Trailer for game set between ROTJ and TFA. Probably raises as many questions as it answers about the field of play going into TFA.
This trailer shows the Death Star II blowing up with the ring from the Special Editions.
The SE is still the official canon and all those celebrations shown after the Empire was defeated at Endor that were inserted into RotJ somehow still aren't representative of what actually took place since we're getting sequels set 30+ years later.
Most franchises has this problem nowadays, contradicting story-elements due to different writers with different preferences. This is what happens when you hire fans to write the content. Hopefully Abrams and Kasdan will be doing their own thing, that is unless Disney pushes some content into the films. However it seems that so far Abrams have been mostly been allowed to do his own thing, so I don't think that this new game, or the new TV series, or any other Disney made/endorsed EU will have any impact on TFA.
Ryan McAvoy said:
Star Wars: Uprising Announce Trailer
^ Trailer for game set between ROTJ and TFA. Probably raises as many questions as it answers about the field of play going into TFA.
Kind of an interesting idea actually. Seems very political and since it's a mobile game I guess it might be very heavy on the plot as well. However I do doubt that this will have a big impact on the actual movie(s). Abrams and Kasdan seem to have written their own story pretty independently, and these games and other tie-ins will probably follow their story, and not the other way around. It will however be interesting to see how they decide to bridge the gap.
I also get this feeling that the Empire (or First Order) will have more of a guerrilla army quality to it in both this game and the new movies. The game even seems to suggest a form of Imperial rebellion against the Rebels. It'll be interesting to see in TFA just how much the balance of power have shifted since the OT.
SilverWook said:
I'd normally post something like this to the "batsh*t crazy ebay listings" thread, but it's equally relevant here...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Star-Wars-black-series-6-inch-Rebel-Stormtrooper-Storm-troopers-2015-loose-pre-/271882246556
"Rebel Stormtrooper"? So I guess that it's supposed to be an action figure of Finn then?
DuracellEnergizer said:
Themes of duality, just like in a Lynch picture. Frink won't like that.
Well, David Lynch did almost direct Return of the Jedi.
rpvee said:
It's also not like Sith/Dark Siders haven't had two names before in Star Wars history. He could still be Plagueis.
I find it hard to believe that the guy who thought about putting Jar Jar's skull into the new film as an easter-egg would make Plagueis one of the new main characters?
Also from what I've gathered Plagueis' full name is actually Hego Damask. Technically that name never appeared in any of the PT films, but Plagueis appeared in EU content before he was mentioned in ROTS so it's safe to bet that those novels were part of Lucas' marketing of the PT films. Similarly to how Grievious appeared in both novels, comics, and the cartoon show before he actually showed up in the film.
ray_afraid said:
Snoke is a goofy name, but not as goofy as other Star Wars characters that I (and probably you) already love.
Boba Fett... Bib ForTuna... Snoke sounds like Shaft in comparison.
Let's not forget the fact that Lucas named an OT character Porkins.
Added to that we have character names such as Sy Snootles, Max Reebo, the third band member was actually called Droopy. Jabba the Hutt is also a pretty funky sounding name. Then we have the official title of Grand Moff. Not to mention a fish-like species called Calamari. I'd say Snoke is quite far down on the list of silliest Star Wars names that we've heard over the years.
SilverWook said:
The reformed Empire can be a an equal opportunity employer, and still evil. ;)
Well it's definitely a lot more practical, giving only a small group of people a certain privilege obviously isn't going to help get new recruits. I'm assuming that since this is thirty years later, and that since the Rebels have gained a much stronger political foothold in the galaxy that the remnants of the Empire had to be less exclusive in order to survive. Also being more diverse would have helped them expand in an otherwise politically chaotic time period. I also can't help but observe how similar it is to the EU. The idea of alien and female Imperial leaders reminds me a lot of Desann and Tavion in Jedi Outcast.
adywan said:
Andy Serkis' role in TFA has now officially been confirmed. He will be playing a character named Supreme Leader Snoke (click image for larger view).
So I'm guessing then that this "Supreme" leader Snoke might be the guy addressing the First Order rally that we saw in the trailer.
But if he's a motion-capture character then it's safe to assume that he's some kind of alien. I find that a pretty fascinating departure from the Empire that we know from the OT. The Empire pretty much consisted entirely of white men, which fitted well with the allusions to Nazism, colonialism and fascism in general. However now we have a supreme leader that's a non-human and Captain Phasma, who's clearly a very important military figure, is a woman. This is a very big departure from what we know. So the First Order is clearly quite different from the Empire that we saw thirty years ago.
(Also is a fascist regime without any form of racial or gender discrimination a form of social commentary on anything? The Empire were like a mix of Nazis and the British empire, so what would the First Order be an allusion to?)
FunkyDays said:
ZkinandBonez said:
I agree that it's a bit weird that both of these items seemingly has such an importance to the plot, but hopefully they will have an interesting explanation for Kylo Ren's interest in them.If the spoiler site is accurate, it's a reasonable assumption that Kylo Ren is Rey's brother - making Vader his grandfather. It's not so weird that he would want Vader artifacts in that context. The saber was Vader's before it was Luke's.
It's possible, but I kind of feel that it needs more explanation than Kylo Ren just being a very nostalgic and sentimental sith. But we'll just have to wait and see, I am however personally hoping for a more unique reason behind it all.
Is it really that weird that Luke's lightsaber have been found though? I mean it dropped into what was basically just a gigantic air vent in Cloud City, I'm sure there would be something, or someone to collect all the trash that might get dropped into it, that just makes sense. And we've already seen the ugnaughts rummaging through scrap from the city, so I don't see why one of them would pick up the lightsaber. I actually would find it weirder if the lightsaber weren't found by anyone. Plus a lightsaber is a pretty unique and valuable item (espeiclaly during the time of ESB) so it makes sense that some greedy little ugnaught would have picked it up. Being such a rare item, not to mention an illegal item under Imperial rule it makes sense that it would have changed through a lot of hands. And we already know that someone (most likely Kylo Ren) picked up Vader's charred helmet from Endor, which is also kind of weird, but far from impossible or improbable. After such a big and significant battle someone would have gone through the ruins, and Vader's helmet would also be quite a valuable item. It would be like finding Hitler's skull in the bunker or something similar.
I agree that it's a bit weird that both of these items seemingly has such an importance to the plot, but hopefully they will have an interesting explanation for Kylo Ren's interest in them. Plus it's only the first movie in the trilogy and it could turn out to be a somewhat clever way to tie the OT with the new films, and hopefully they'll be gone in the next two films. This seems the most likely since Abrams has talked about treating TFA as the link between the two trilogies and the transfer into a new story-line with new characters.
Could the lightsaber itself have some connection to the force perhaps? Considering that the film is called "the force awakens" and that there's been rumours about about the nature of the force suddenly changing, scaring Luke into exile, etc. And then there's the whole thing about Kanata showing visions through the lightsaber. Could the lightsaber and Vader's helmet be important through their connections to force users? Everyone assumes that kylo Ren is just a Vader wannabe, but maybe he (and perhaps the "Uber" character) actually have a practical purpose for them, like a ritual or something? Could the items themselves have a certain power to them. The EU has definitely played with these "occult" like aspects of the Sith and if Kanata can extract visions from an item then that could be what they're going for in this film. If that picture of Kylo Ren in the snow really is outside a sith temple, then a ritual of some kind could definitely be part of the plot.
emanswfan said:
Full interactive compilation of the currently rumored plot elements. (a more organized and easier to read version than my previous post about this)
http://spoilerboard.blogspot.de/2015/05/welcome-to-star-wars-force-awakens.html?m=1
Most of this sounds pretty amazing to me, I didn't ready any of the two versions of Act III to avoid potentially spoiling the ending, but the first two acts seemed pretty interesting. If this turns out to be true then they're going for a much more simple and "calmer" narrative, which I personally welcome after the messy and frantic plots of the PT (ROTS especially, I mean that entire film was just one long climax with breaks). It also sounds very similar to ANH's plot structure. It has the characters, and therefore also us the audience, gradually getting to explore the universe of the film. I really hope that most of this is what the final film will actually be like.
I also liked the stuff with Maz Kanata. If it turns out to be true then it might piss of some SW purists, but I kind of liker the idea that they might have expanded on the nature of the force. Of course the title already kind of suggested that they had, but I always felt that the PT played it a little bit too safe and just gave us stuff we'd already seen. The only thing they added was midichlorians, and that just sucked the magic out of it. This seems like a step back towards the more mystical and magical aspects of the force.
I found another video showing the same costumes and props from some different angles and I noticed a few more interesting details.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKrFZBncjmU
One interesting little detail is that Rey's goggles seems to have been made out of the eye-piece of an OT-era stormtrooper helmet. Other than that the video shows a lot more details on Kylo Ren's lightsaber. Looking at the design you really get the idea that it's something very unique, most likely something that he's cobbled together himself. If this is the case then it would explain the uneven saber-beam that we saw in the trailer.
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Also as a side-note, am I the only one who get's the impression that the two 'beams' on the side are more like vented plasma (or whatever lightsaber-beams are supposed to be made of) rather than two extra lightsaber-beams. If Kylo ren's lightsaber is "home-made" then it could simply be that the two tubes at the end are there to serve as vents. I could be stretching this speculation, but the 'beams' really look to pointy to be regular lightsaber-beams. They look more light the spark coming out of a welding-torch.
timdiggerm said:
I dunno, he has that thing pointed at his chest.
That's true, I honestly didn't notice that. I still find it interesting however that Luke's lightsaber is on concept art of Finn. It's hard to say why it's there, it's just so very...specific. It is a very interesting little detailed that they decided to show the fans at Star Wars Celebration.
I found this IGN video from the Star Wars Celebration where they showed off some of the costumes and props from TFA. Most of it we've already seen before only in close-up, such as Kylo Ren's mask and lightsaber as well as some details on the new Snow-troopers and even a new Flame-trooper design. The most interesting part however is a piece of concept art showing Finn with Luke's lightsaber attached to his jacket. I guess this could suggest that it is Finn that finds the lightsaber and not Rey as we've all assumed so far, or it could even suggest that's he's going to actually use it as a jedi/apprentice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9jBp4h8WfI
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I guess this is supposed to be Maz Kanata as well.
Not exactly earth-shattering information but kind of cool none-the-less.
unamochilla2 said:
Is it considered canon, according to Disney, that Boba Fett is still alive? The canon part of Wookieepedia (if this is considered reliable) implies that he died, but doesn't directly say so.
Boba fought against the Rebel rescuers and was inadvertently knocked into the mouth of the sarlacc by Solo, to be slowly digested for one thousand years.
Disney may not give a crap about the EU canon, but if Abrams and Kasdan write it into TFA then it's canon simply because they wrote it. And Abrams seems to already have borrowed elements from the EU so it's not impossible, and it would definitely please a lot of fans.
unamochilla2 said:
Max Von Sydow Reportedly Confirmed as Boba Fett in Star Wars: The Force Awakens
That kinda works I guess. However until any more details arise I won't consider it to me that reliable a claim, but if it turns out to be true then at least it means we won't have to see Tamuera Morrison for the umpteenth time in a Star Wars film. However I doubt that Abrams would deviate from the prequels THAT much despite apparently not being a fan. Not that I would personally complain about it, and I'm sure it would make many OT fans happy, but it does seem unlikely (especially after Abrams stated he was trying to please as many SW fans as possible).
