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Post: #76757
Topic: ***The MeBeJedi feedback thread ***
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/76757/action/topic#76757
Time: 9-Nov-2004 9:21 AM

What program are you using to capture? Those settings don't look familiar to me.

Post: #76755
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/76755/action/topic#76755
Time: 9-Nov-2004 9:10 AM

ALL dvd players can output the DTS bitstream. The question is whether or not the preprocessor or receiver will have decoding capabilities. In the event that it doesn't, the dolby surround track will still be on the disc. That's why I'm putting it on there. On the other hand, I still don't know if the created 5.1 sound will be worth listening to. A side by side comparrison will be the judge of that. If it is, it's not like we're talking about normal 192k 5.1 audio here. A 1536k DTS stream is the lowest form of compression you can get out of a DVD and 10 times the quality of a normal mp3.

Post: #76708
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/76708/action/topic#76708
Time: 8-Nov-2004 7:58 PM

This LD player is great! I can already tell a difference in the video quality, and being able to pause and go frame by frame on CLV is immensely useful.

Expect some much-improved screencaps in the next few days. But not tonight, as football takes precedence...

Post: #76704
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/76704/action/topic#76704
Time: 8-Nov-2004 7:01 PM

It's a MSI TV @nywhere Master card (priceless?

). I bought it because it has the same awesome capture chip as my Winfast card (Conexant CX23883) but the connector is directly on the card rather than via a multi-in cable. I don't know if the quality difference I'm seeing is because of the card itself or the lack of a multi-in cable. But I don't really care, it's the results that matter.

Oh, and this just in - my CLD-D704 is finally here. Time to get down to business...

Post: #76674
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/76674/action/topic#76674
Time: 8-Nov-2004 3:28 PM

Just a quick note, I hooked up my new capture card last night, and I can already tell a big difference in the capture quality. The colors are more vivid and it looks like there is much less video noise. Can't wait till my new LD player gets here.

Post: #76542
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/76542/action/topic#76542
Time: 7-Nov-2004 9:13 PM

I don't see why a DVD player wouldn't be able to handle it. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but as long as the combined audio/video/subpicture bitrate doesn't exceed 10Mbps, it should be fine. Besides, isn't PCM's bit rate just as high?

As for the music-only track, I recieved a copy of the soundtracks from Echo3 so I'll probably use that to create the dvd tracks.

Post: #76530
Topic: Does anyone have the definitive trilogy collection DVD covers?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/76530/action/topic#76530
Time: 7-Nov-2004 7:58 PM

Welcome to the forums.

If you would have skimmed down the list of threads on this board before starting your own, you might have seen this thread which has an abundance of dvd covers you can download.

Post: #76528
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/76528/action/topic#76528
Time: 7-Nov-2004 7:37 PM

I haven't really done much with sound yet, but I've been throwing a few ideas around lately. My first thought is to have a stereo (pro-logic surround) PCM track. I'm also thinking of trying to create a 5.1 DTS track from the pro-logic audio. If I like the way it sounds, I may just 86 the PCM track and go with 1536k DTS 5.1 which is almost exactly the same file size. Of course I'll be capturing the audio digitally via coax.

As it stands right now, this is what I want on my DVD's:

PCM 2.0 surround (uncompressed) or DTS 5.1 surround (1536k)
Dolby Digital 2.0 (192k)
Dolby Digital 2.0 Commentary (192k)
Dolby Digital 2.0 Music Only (192k)

Those are just ideas in my head at this point. Right now I'm more worried about the audio syncing up correctly and whether I really need to be capturing the audio and video at the same time. So far I've been capturing video only.

Post: #75930
Topic: Some screenshots to compare composite and s-video
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/75930/action/topic#75930
Time: 5-Nov-2004 6:47 PM

What LD player are you using? I've done comparrison captures of that exact same shot of the carbon freezing chamber. With my CLD-V2600, the s-video capture had much more dot crawl, but less noise.

Post: #75928
Topic: StarWarsLegacy.com - The Official Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/75928/action/topic#75928
Time: 5-Nov-2004 6:42 PM

Yeah, definitely not approval, I just happen to know they've seen the site. The fact that they haven't shut it down is tacit approval for the posting of screencaps that they could revoke at any instant.

_Mike

Same thing with my site. I got a nice email from them a few weeks back about my image archive having Insider images, but they didn't say anything about the DVD project section, so I'll take that as approval.

Post: #75264
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/75264/action/topic#75264
Time: 2-Nov-2004 10:55 PM

I won't deny that it gets annoying at times when things get off-topic in here, but I haven't had much to say the last few days regarding my project, so no worries. Besides, I'm still waiting for some of my equipment to come in, and I'm working on a different project in the meantime (Sealab 2021 DVD's). Come next week though, it's back to business.

Post: #75171
Topic: Original Trilogy set I made from Laser Disc to DVD (using the Faces LDs) (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/75171/action/topic#75171
Time: 2-Nov-2004 3:31 PM

I didn't mean anything by that comment, Daniel. I was just stating a fact. I guess maybe I should've put a

at the end there.

Post: #75159
Topic: Info Wanted: What other LDs are you all transferring?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/75159/action/topic#75159
Time: 2-Nov-2004 3:15 PM

I just got Sealab 2021 Seasons 1-3 off myspleen and I'm currently creating DVD's for each season. Of course the quality won't be as good as the real dvd's since the source I'm working with is 512x354 XviD, but hey, it's an old cartoon anyway.

I'm hoping to whip up some quick main and chapter menus for these too. I can post screenshots when I'm done if you guys want.

Edit: man, waiting 26 hours for TMPGEnc to encode just under 2 hours of video kinda sucks...

Post: #75048
Topic: ***The MeBeJedi feedback thread ***
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/75048/action/topic#75048
Time: 1-Nov-2004 11:29 PM

The shot where Vader and the other Tie Pilot hit each other and clear out of the trench. Look at the walls of the trench.

Post: #75042
Topic: ***The MeBeJedi feedback thread ***
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/75042/action/topic#75042
Time: 1-Nov-2004 11:17 PM

hmm, maybe that happened during the encoding then?

I'm going to check mine when I get home from work and see if I have the same thing in my mpeg.

Post: #75037
Topic: ***The MeBeJedi feedback thread ***
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/75037/action/topic#75037
Time: 1-Nov-2004 10:55 PM

Another thing I noticed on one of your mpegs: did you run any temporal filters on those avi's? You can tell on some of the death star shots that there is some artifacting on the walls.

Post: #74955
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/74955/action/topic#74955
Time: 1-Nov-2004 7:11 PM

Now, all bets are off if there is significant noise coming from outside sources! There I'd imagine the MC cable's improved shielding, etc., would eliminate a large quantity of outside noise, which itself could conceivably add substantially to the picture quality degradation. So there you could be looking at the cable eliminating 75% of the source of, say, 10% of the noise, for an overall improvement of about 8%.

Which I have to say, I would pursue.

Now consider for a moment that you live in a dormitory like I do. Right off the bat, you've got a lot of noise coming from the power outlets. And even though I've got one of the better Monster power centers, I still get a significant amount of noise into my video sources. Add to that the fact that I've got a pluthera of wires going in and out and crossing all over the place behind my computer desk, things are bound to get a little messy. When I compare my monster video cable to a standard one, I can see a big difference.

Post: #74935
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/74935/action/topic#74935
Time: 1-Nov-2004 5:54 PM

Karyudo, I understand what you're saying. Though, I don't think anyone can convince me otherwise. I used to be a Home Theater salesman, and now that I'm an electronics tech, my mind is set in it's ways and I don't think I'm going to change. Anyway, I have to justify spending $40 on a couple of THX certified Monster composite cables somehow, right?

Post: #74771
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/74771/action/topic#74771
Time: 1-Nov-2004 10:17 AM

I also discovered there is no difference between the cheapest RCA cable and Monster Cable's near-top-of-the-line fancy-ass thing.

Ok buddy, you've just crossed the line with that remark. There is no way in hell that a 2 dollar video cable from Radio Shack is going to transfer the video signal as efficiently as a high quality dual-shielded Monster Cable. If you're not seeing a difference, it's because you're lucking out and not getting any noise introduced into your signal.

Nothing more to see here. Move along.

Post: #74742
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/74742/action/topic#74742
Time: 31-Oct-2004 8:40 PM

That's most likely your problem right there tellan. I'm using Huffyuv in Premiere Pro without problems. My settings for the Huffyuv codec are Predict Median (YUY2), Predict Gradient (RGB), field threshold 240 lines, and I have "Always suggest RGB format" checked and "Enable full-size output buffer" checked.

If you change your settings, you might have to recapture in order to make your AVI's work in Premiere.

Post: #74667
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/74667/action/topic#74667
Time: 31-Oct-2004 2:00 AM

Wow, that's not even fair! The black levels on those discs are amazing! The Faces LD's in comparisson are MUCH brighter, unfortunately.

What LD player are you using by the way?

Post: #74663
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/74663/action/topic#74663
Time: 31-Oct-2004 1:00 AM

Too blue eh? You may be right about that, I've been staring at this video so long that I've kinda gotten used to it.

One thing that blew me away about the DVD's was how black things were compared to the LD's. I've tried this round to emulate that by darkening just the shadows. To my eye, it looks pretty good. But this may be why it looks too contrasted to you.

I don't think I can really provide frame numbers for you, as I'm not really capturing from the beginning of the film, and the Faces LD's are not CAV so I wouldn't be able to use the LD's frame numbers as a reference since CLV doesn't have any. Perhaps a description would help? For instance, the closeup of Leia (#13 there) is the third frame of that shot.

It's true that the stars suffer a lot from the large amount of filters I'm using. I'm hoping that with my new equipment I won't have to use half of them. I've already experimented a little with editing in new starfields, so that's probably what I would do in a worst-case scenario.

At any rate, I'd really like to see some of your screencaps.

Post: #74660
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/74660/action/topic#74660
Time: 31-Oct-2004 12:07 AM

Putting this new script aside for a moment, here are my latest results, which should mark the end for my current hardware setup as my new stuff will be coming in this coming week:

ANH.toot.d5000.14

(more screenshots on the web site)

I think these are my best results so far. As you can see, these shots are not oversaturated and there is a bit more detail since my raw capture was not as dark.

I started with a more neutral capture setting in VirtualVCR, then captured all three ANH LD's and TooTed them together. Then in AVIsynth I cropped the video down to size, and used Laserschwert's second de-ghost method:

v1=AviSource("e:\zion.avi").ConvertToYUY2.GuavaComb(mode="NTSC").SeparateFields.SelectEvery(10,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,9).Weave.AssumeFPS(23.976)

v2=v1.crop(4,0,0,0).AddBorders(0,0,4,0, color=$FFFFFF).blur(.5)

v3 = overlay(v1,v2, opacity=0.2, mode="Darken") # remove only bright halos

return v3

Then in VDubMod I IVTC'd, resized to 2x and ran the MSU smart sharpen and denoise filters, then resized back to 720x274. From there, color corrected each shot individually with Adobe Premiere. Then resized to anamorphic back in AVIsynth.

I know there's a lot of dot crawl in these caps. I was switching between GuavaComb and DeDot and I think I had them both disabled when I did my final save.

So what do you guys think? When my new LD player and capture card get here, I'll be doing another capture like this, only I shouldn't have to do any deghosting or noise filtering.

Post: #74653
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/74653/action/topic#74653
Time: 30-Oct-2004 11:08 PM

Thanks guys. I'm still having a problem though. I made a folder in my plugins directory for MaskTools and I'm calling it in my script like this:

LoadPlugin("D:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MaskTools\MaskTools.dll")

When I load the script, it's saying "there is no function named yv12lutxy." Is there something else I need, like a newer version of AVIsynth?

Post: #74646
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/74646/action/topic#74646
Time: 30-Oct-2004 10:32 PM

Ok, somebody help me out here. I've copied and pasted the LimitedSharpen script from that thread, but is there a way I can just save it as a plug-in so I don't have to include the whole thing in my scripts?

Edit: Also, it's telling me that "yv12lutxy()" is not working. Is this another plugin I need to download?