Zion

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Post: #76828
Topic: Sound question
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/76828/action/topic#76828
Time: 9-Nov-2004 4:45 PM

I wouldn't compress the dynamic range or downconvert to 44.1khz if I were you. You're only degrading the quality that way.

Post: #76805
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/76805/action/topic#76805
Time: 9-Nov-2004 3:51 PM

I think things are a little different with those older bt based cards. The newer conexant ones seem to be a little more compatible with different software. I've had success using a number of different capture programs, including virtualdubmod and virtualvcr. But this issue of the missing video on the sides is a little different it seems.

One con about this MSI card is that the included PVR software doesn't seem to work with Windows XP. I've tried a number of other programs like SageTV and ChrisTV, but to no avail. I don't really care about the TV aspect of the card that much though, and Media Player Classic (believe it or not) actually works well as a video player, so I can still watch TV through my cable box.

So I guess I'm not going to worry too much about my TV software not functioning if I change the capture card drivers.

Post: #76798
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/76798/action/topic#76798
Time: 9-Nov-2004 2:42 PM

Yeah, I can set the capture size to pretty much anything from 720x480 down. Even at the smaller sizes the sides are still cut off. Maybe I should try some different drivers.

Post: #76791
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/76791/action/topic#76791
Time: 9-Nov-2004 2:04 PM

And another thing, my captures still seem to be missing a few pixels of both sides. I was hoping that by installing a new capture card and new drivers this would be fixed, but my new card is doing the same thing. Does anyone have any idea why I might be getting this? I wonder if VirtualVCR is causing this issue somehow?

Post: #76790
Topic: ***The MeBeJedi feedback thread ***
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/76790/action/topic#76790
Time: 9-Nov-2004 1:59 PM

Good stuff dude. I was never too keen on the two thread idea either. Just make your updates here, and anything really important you can just edit into your first post.

So, what program are you using to capture again?

Post: #76780
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/76780/action/topic#76780
Time: 9-Nov-2004 12:59 PM

Originally posted by: tellan
Zion, another question or two about your sound approach. I am always intrigued when someone says they are going to capture using one set of discs and use the sound from another because the spectre of sound sync rears its head.

I was lucky in that my capture didn't have an issue. I captured sound and video at the same time and it was always synced up correctly. On the other hand if you start capturing from different source material I can never see how the person can figure it out enough to make it sync beyond looking and listening at it.

In your case, are you going to sync up your base wavs first? then create the different sound streams based on this one copy of sound, or do it by some other means?

What I'll probably end up doing is using the audio from the same source LD's (faces set) since it seems like the sound quality on the '85 mix LD's isn't as good as the THX versions. I probably won't be capturing the audio and video at the same time though, unless I determine that I can't sync them up properly. I'm going to create a master .wav file and make sure that it syncs up correctly to the video before I create the different dvd audio tracks from it.

Post: #76779
Topic: Best IVTC filter/program & lossless compression codec??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/76779/action/topic#76779
Time: 9-Nov-2004 12:42 PM

Yeah, the MSU sharpen filter is awesome, and I'll probably end up using it for my DVD's. But damn is it slow. Somebody needs to jump on those guys to release a p4 optimized version.

Post: #76757
Topic: ***The MeBeJedi feedback thread ***
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/76757/action/topic#76757
Time: 9-Nov-2004 9:21 AM

What program are you using to capture? Those settings don't look familiar to me.

Post: #76755
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/76755/action/topic#76755
Time: 9-Nov-2004 9:10 AM

ALL dvd players can output the DTS bitstream. The question is whether or not the preprocessor or receiver will have decoding capabilities. In the event that it doesn't, the dolby surround track will still be on the disc. That's why I'm putting it on there. On the other hand, I still don't know if the created 5.1 sound will be worth listening to. A side by side comparrison will be the judge of that. If it is, it's not like we're talking about normal 192k 5.1 audio here. A 1536k DTS stream is the lowest form of compression you can get out of a DVD and 10 times the quality of a normal mp3.

Post: #76708
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/76708/action/topic#76708
Time: 8-Nov-2004 7:58 PM

This LD player is great! I can already tell a difference in the video quality, and being able to pause and go frame by frame on CLV is immensely useful.

Expect some much-improved screencaps in the next few days. But not tonight, as football takes precedence...

Post: #76704
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/76704/action/topic#76704
Time: 8-Nov-2004 7:01 PM

It's a MSI TV @nywhere Master card (priceless?

). I bought it because it has the same awesome capture chip as my Winfast card (Conexant CX23883) but the connector is directly on the card rather than via a multi-in cable. I don't know if the quality difference I'm seeing is because of the card itself or the lack of a multi-in cable. But I don't really care, it's the results that matter.

Oh, and this just in - my CLD-D704 is finally here. Time to get down to business...

Post: #76674
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/76674/action/topic#76674
Time: 8-Nov-2004 3:28 PM

Just a quick note, I hooked up my new capture card last night, and I can already tell a big difference in the capture quality. The colors are more vivid and it looks like there is much less video noise. Can't wait till my new LD player gets here.

Post: #76542
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/76542/action/topic#76542
Time: 7-Nov-2004 9:13 PM

I don't see why a DVD player wouldn't be able to handle it. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but as long as the combined audio/video/subpicture bitrate doesn't exceed 10Mbps, it should be fine. Besides, isn't PCM's bit rate just as high?

As for the music-only track, I recieved a copy of the soundtracks from Echo3 so I'll probably use that to create the dvd tracks.

Post: #76530
Topic: Does anyone have the definitive trilogy collection DVD covers?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/76530/action/topic#76530
Time: 7-Nov-2004 7:58 PM

Welcome to the forums.

If you would have skimmed down the list of threads on this board before starting your own, you might have seen this thread which has an abundance of dvd covers you can download.

Post: #76528
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/76528/action/topic#76528
Time: 7-Nov-2004 7:37 PM

I haven't really done much with sound yet, but I've been throwing a few ideas around lately. My first thought is to have a stereo (pro-logic surround) PCM track. I'm also thinking of trying to create a 5.1 DTS track from the pro-logic audio. If I like the way it sounds, I may just 86 the PCM track and go with 1536k DTS 5.1 which is almost exactly the same file size. Of course I'll be capturing the audio digitally via coax.

As it stands right now, this is what I want on my DVD's:

PCM 2.0 surround (uncompressed) or DTS 5.1 surround (1536k)
Dolby Digital 2.0 (192k)
Dolby Digital 2.0 Commentary (192k)
Dolby Digital 2.0 Music Only (192k)

Those are just ideas in my head at this point. Right now I'm more worried about the audio syncing up correctly and whether I really need to be capturing the audio and video at the same time. So far I've been capturing video only.

Post: #75930
Topic: Some screenshots to compare composite and s-video
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/75930/action/topic#75930
Time: 5-Nov-2004 6:47 PM

What LD player are you using? I've done comparrison captures of that exact same shot of the carbon freezing chamber. With my CLD-V2600, the s-video capture had much more dot crawl, but less noise.

Post: #75928
Topic: StarWarsLegacy.com - The Official Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/75928/action/topic#75928
Time: 5-Nov-2004 6:42 PM

Yeah, definitely not approval, I just happen to know they've seen the site. The fact that they haven't shut it down is tacit approval for the posting of screencaps that they could revoke at any instant.

_Mike

Same thing with my site. I got a nice email from them a few weeks back about my image archive having Insider images, but they didn't say anything about the DVD project section, so I'll take that as approval.

Post: #75264
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/75264/action/topic#75264
Time: 2-Nov-2004 10:55 PM

I won't deny that it gets annoying at times when things get off-topic in here, but I haven't had much to say the last few days regarding my project, so no worries. Besides, I'm still waiting for some of my equipment to come in, and I'm working on a different project in the meantime (Sealab 2021 DVD's). Come next week though, it's back to business.

Post: #75171
Topic: Original Trilogy set I made from Laser Disc to DVD (using the Faces LDs) (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/75171/action/topic#75171
Time: 2-Nov-2004 3:31 PM

I didn't mean anything by that comment, Daniel. I was just stating a fact. I guess maybe I should've put a

at the end there.

Post: #75159
Topic: Info Wanted: What other LDs are you all transferring?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/75159/action/topic#75159
Time: 2-Nov-2004 3:15 PM

I just got Sealab 2021 Seasons 1-3 off myspleen and I'm currently creating DVD's for each season. Of course the quality won't be as good as the real dvd's since the source I'm working with is 512x354 XviD, but hey, it's an old cartoon anyway.

I'm hoping to whip up some quick main and chapter menus for these too. I can post screenshots when I'm done if you guys want.

Edit: man, waiting 26 hours for TMPGEnc to encode just under 2 hours of video kinda sucks...

Post: #75048
Topic: ***The MeBeJedi feedback thread ***
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/75048/action/topic#75048
Time: 1-Nov-2004 11:29 PM

The shot where Vader and the other Tie Pilot hit each other and clear out of the trench. Look at the walls of the trench.

Post: #75042
Topic: ***The MeBeJedi feedback thread ***
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/75042/action/topic#75042
Time: 1-Nov-2004 11:17 PM

hmm, maybe that happened during the encoding then?

I'm going to check mine when I get home from work and see if I have the same thing in my mpeg.

Post: #75037
Topic: ***The MeBeJedi feedback thread ***
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/75037/action/topic#75037
Time: 1-Nov-2004 10:55 PM

Another thing I noticed on one of your mpegs: did you run any temporal filters on those avi's? You can tell on some of the death star shots that there is some artifacting on the walls.

Post: #74955
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/74955/action/topic#74955
Time: 1-Nov-2004 7:11 PM

Now, all bets are off if there is significant noise coming from outside sources! There I'd imagine the MC cable's improved shielding, etc., would eliminate a large quantity of outside noise, which itself could conceivably add substantially to the picture quality degradation. So there you could be looking at the cable eliminating 75% of the source of, say, 10% of the noise, for an overall improvement of about 8%.

Which I have to say, I would pursue.

Now consider for a moment that you live in a dormitory like I do. Right off the bat, you've got a lot of noise coming from the power outlets. And even though I've got one of the better Monster power centers, I still get a significant amount of noise into my video sources. Add to that the fact that I've got a pluthera of wires going in and out and crossing all over the place behind my computer desk, things are bound to get a little messy. When I compare my monster video cable to a standard one, I can see a big difference.

Post: #74935
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/74935/action/topic#74935
Time: 1-Nov-2004 5:54 PM

Karyudo, I understand what you're saying. Though, I don't think anyone can convince me otherwise. I used to be a Home Theater salesman, and now that I'm an electronics tech, my mind is set in it's ways and I don't think I'm going to change. Anyway, I have to justify spending $40 on a couple of THX certified Monster composite cables somehow, right?