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#207553
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Yet another movie remake we don't really need...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207553/action/topic#207553
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Originally posted by: Invader Jenny
I will remake this movie. Sure it sucked when it was made, and my remake won't make any money, but by god, if money was given to make "Son of the Mask" and "Lost in Space" I'm sure some Hollywood movie company will give me the rights to remake this classic snoozer film.

I love that movie! Er, I mean I loved MST3K making fun of that movie.
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#207456
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Info: The LID Project: Laserdisc is dead.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207456/action/topic#207456
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Can we stop with the insults please? This thread has enough of them as it is, and OCP is not here to defend himself anyway. All this bickering about who is right and who is wrong needs to stop. Whatever happened to civilized debate and constructive criticism? It seems to have been lost over the past few days.

It was never my intention to ban OCP permanently. It will only be for a week.

SephirothTNH, I'm sorry you feel like there's some kind of double standard here, but last time I checked, you couldn't walk into a store and buy the O-OT. Until you can (or until Jay says otherwise), preservation threads will remain open. You bring up a great point, but this is something that we the mods haven't yet discussed in detail.

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#207433
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Info: The LID Project: Laserdisc is dead.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207433/action/topic#207433
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Originally posted by: bad_karma24
Originally posted by: Crappy_Logo_Productions
Congratulations ocp. You've just earned a free vacation from the boards.


WAIT, WAIT, WAIT!

Did you seriously just ban OCP from the boards because he doesn't agree with you?

I know I haven't been around here for years like some people but what the f*** man? Is that fair to ban someone because you don't agree that he thinks DVD is better quality then laserdisc? Look I really don't have a lot of pull around here but who the hell are you to ban someone because they don't agree with your precious XO Project?


No, he temporalily banned him because of his odd sense of humor and the way he was treating everyone. I don't really care personally, as I have a similar style of personality and I know that OCP wasn't really intending to offend anyone.


OCP was banned for multiple reasons. I don't know what came over him over the past few days, but he went from a cocky yet respected member of the fan editing community to an immature and obsessive troll. He went DanielB on the SW Preservation board and decided that he needed to go off about how laserdisc preservation is "silly" and proceeded to make it known in multiple threads. I warned him twice about his behavior before he was banned, but he decided to push the envelope anyway.

I edited a few of his posts in the X0 thread (all of which he also posted in this thread). He then decided he needed to re-edit these posts and put them back in.

It's obvious OCP needs a break from OT.com - for his own sake as well as the community's. I really don't care if he doesn't agree with me about laserdisc preservation. That's not the issue here. The issue is keeping order on these boards.
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#207283
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.: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207283/action/topic#207283
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The laserdiscs are closer to the actual film color obviously. But since you have to go through every shot anyway, I don't see the 2004 DVDs as being a whole lot more of a burden to work with. Maybe just a little.

The Star Wars films - and A New Hope in particular - have very "pastel" like colors. Nothing is really overly vibrant, save for things like laser blasts, engine flames, and a couple planets. The DVD's colors were brightened and saturated to match the prequel DVD releases, so most of your work would have to go into toning those colors down to match the OUT DVDs.
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#207273
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.: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207273/action/topic#207273
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Discreet Lustre primarily. But I've also been doing some work in Adobe Premiere with Synthetic Aperature Color Finesse.

Contrary to what others might say, color correction isn't just a quick 2 minute process. When you color correct, you start off with a general correction of the whole film which includes gamma, black and white points, saturation, and color. Then you go into correcting individual shots. Then individual frames if need be.

Programs like these allow you to correct the colors of only certain parts of a shot, like the walls of the Tantive for instance. What we can do is look at our reference material and see what the color of the walls should be and correct just those, leaving everything else intact.
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#207240
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Info: The LID Project: Laserdisc is dead.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207240/action/topic#207240
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Congratulations ocp. You've just earned a free vacation from the boards.



Do you honestly think that I'm trying to cover up some conspiracy or something? Apparently you feel you've been "forced into this position" where you have to show people that doing a laserdisc transfer is "silly". If that's your opinion, fine. But we don't need to hear about it in every single thread you post in.

You don't see any of us posting in your classic edition threads about how combining laserdisc footage with DVD footage is "silly" do you? I could really go on and on about how switching in between two different qualities of video is a horrible idea, and the edits in all three of your DVDs were distracting to me, but I won't.

Having a DVD version of the OOT as a reference to work from changes everything. It will provide all of us a better base to work from, and raise the level of quality of all future fan edits.

There is one team still working on their laserdisc transfer. Deal with it.
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#207219
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.: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207219/action/topic#207219
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OCP - If you continue to turn this whole forum into your own battleground of pre-teen ranting and evangelical raving, you will no longer be welcome on this site.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. But that doesn't mean this thread is going to turn into a debate on the validity of working with laserdisc footage as a base.

Quite frankly, WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO JUDGE OUR PROJECT?! If you hate what we're doing so much then get out of this thread.
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#207128
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.: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207128/action/topic#207128
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How many times do I have to repeat myself?! Nobody is claiming that the X0 Project will have better resolution than the DVD. This project was started to do the best trasfer to DVD from the laserdisc. Just because an official DVD version is being released, we're not going to give up and throw everything away. This isn't a contest to see who's transfer or what version is better. This is about finishing what we set out to do over a year ago.

I have little doubt that the new DVDs will need a lot of work to look anything like the X0 Project LD transfer.
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#207033
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.: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207033/action/topic#207033
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Originally posted by: ocpmovie
>>The X0 Project will continue! We will finish what we started and I have every reason to believe that it will be just as good - if not better than those $30 DVDs coming out in September.


I'm sure it will be better than Lucas' DVDs as you claim! After all, everyone knows that laserdisc is higher quality than DVD!
Only time will tell if what they put out will be any better. Resolution-wise - of course it will be better. What I'm saying is that there's no way LFL spent the time and money to clean up the film and resotre the original color like we are.


Originally posted by: ocpmovie

Conclusion: LID project wins. Laserdisc is dead. You claim to be utterly obsessed with quality, but I think you're obsessed with a dead format. If you were really obsessed with quality, you would be working from DVD quality sources, as you could have been doing two years ago when the OT came out on DVD. Some people ridiculed (and ridicule) me for doing this with my Classic Editions, but people seemed to like them. Some people even laughed at PAL sourced laserdiscs which are better quality than NTSC ones, but people seemed to like them. People want to see the OT in good quality - that's why they follow this project. So why on earth are you cleaning up, meticulously, frame by frame, removing dirt and splotches, from a fuzzy old laserdisc transfer? You could have cleaned up the 2004 DVDs instead and been done with this project a year ago.

Well, it's over now. Laserdisc is dead. And I'm glad. We can see the OT in pristine quality.

I am not picking a fight, simply trying to inject some truth and sanity into a thread that has gone, in my eyes, off the deep end.


That's too harsh. What I'm really trying to do is to get this forum to stop looking back at the past and start looking at its own future. When an HD master of Star Wars shows up on some TV channel in a few months, we're not gonna still be sourcing from laserdisc ...

Message ends.


Let's take it from you then, shall we? Because we all know ANH CE was amazingly brilliant in all its quality and expert video editing!

Your attempt to restore the OOT using DVD footage is a prime example of why we didn't do the same thing. You just can't take laserdisc footage and splice it in with the higher-resolution DVD footage. The difference is night and day - especially when you mix the two in a single shot.

The initial purpose of the X0 Project was to create the best transfer possible from the laserdisc. We intend to finish what we started.

As for these new DVDs, will they provide a great starting point for any future projects? Of course they will! We're looking forward to working with them just as much as anyone else.
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#206949
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.: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/206949/action/topic#206949
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I want to thank everyone for writing in and expressing their concern over our project in light of the recent news from Lucasfilm.

First, let me just say that The X0 Project will continue!

We will finish what we started and I have every reason to believe that it will be just as good - if not better than those $30 DVDs coming out in September.

Check your email for the latest blurb from the X0 Team. Or check it out here.


Originally posted by: ronlaw
2. Did you ever try the 5 x re-sampling like Citizen tried with his German PAL LDs? (Or any amount of re-sampling).

He appears to have gotten another incremental level of accuracy/detail out of that, but perhaps it wouldn't be so useful for the X0 - maybe it gets pretty much all the original encoded detail that is there (I seem to remember it internally does some resampling of several analog paths)


Thanks.

The HLD-X0 player does basically the same thing internally before it outputs the composite signal, so an averaging pass wouldn't do much to improve it.
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#206942
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Info: A CALL TO ARMS FOR THE X0 PROJECT! (was: A SPARK OF HOPE...)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/206942/action/topic#206942
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It's great to know that those among us still want to see the fruits of the X0 Project. I'd like to personally thank all of you for your support.

Rest assured that the project will continue. We aren't going to keel over and die just because of recent events. I stand by what I said in the Chicago Herald, and I can't wait to see how our superior effort stacks up to LFL's half-hearted attempt.

This is far from over...
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#206165
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ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/206165/action/topic#206165
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It doesn't matter what his true intentions are. Whether he's changed his mind and wants to give something back to the fans, or he's just out for the next thing that will make Lucasfilm some money now that the ROTS ship has sailed, people will still find ways to shed a negative light on this.

I think a lot of people need to take a step back and think about this for a second. A lot of you are asking some very valid questions. A couple of you can't seem to handle the news and have reverted to posting like a 3rd grader on AOL for the first time. Still some just think that everything this site stands for is obsolete and there's no reason to continue doing what we do.

I don't have all the answers, but I challenge everyone to think about what this news means to the community as a whole and ask yourself why it is that you come to this site - and more specifically - this Preservation and Fan Edits board. If you only come here to find out how to leech a copy of your favorite transfers, I doubt we'll see you back here much anymore. For the rest of us, I think this news changes things, but not nearly as much as people are led to believe.