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#212579
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New DVDs NOT 16x9
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/212579/action/topic#212579
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Haaha. Oh sure. "People will look at those and say they're a rough draft".

They looked pretty finished to ME when I watched them you dullard.

I'm sorry Lucas, I really *really* tried to at least hold off my critcism until the DVDs were out and I knew what I was dealing with. But you've managed to piss me off so much... I give up. To hell with you and your vision.
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#211923
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Should Lucus make 4,5 and 6 over?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/211923/action/topic#211923
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People keep citing the Psycho remake in this thread.

THAT IS MY POINT - the remake sucked and everyone knows it. It would be no different with a remade OT. Nobody would take it very seriously, and he'd have his 'complete' original vision at last.

And if remakes truly do suck... why on earth would you want him to make the PT again if you don't like them? Wouldn't they just get worse? Now that's a frightening thought.
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#211758
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Should Lucus make 4,5 and 6 over?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/211758/action/topic#211758
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Slow down people! I'll simplify so even the duller knives in this draw of mighty cuttlery will understand it.

*It's not like he'd ever remake them. He has such faith in his digital alterations to the original, that he feels they already work. Probably.

*Remaking them would not be a bad thing. He'd waste his own money to do it, he'd make crap films I could laugh at, and he'd *leave the good ones alone* for a change.

I don't see a problem!
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#210954
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Should there be an ULTIMATE EDITION!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/210954/action/topic#210954
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Come on. Let's be nice. He's presented his ideas in a calm, polite manner, and, even though we don't agree with them, doesn't mean we have to slap him around for it!


Muahaa. I was plenty nice, and I apparently inspired our beloved Je to start a new thread off the idea of making the OT again.

I am not for a minute saying a recreated OT using PT actors would be good. I'm saying that if Lucas would just do that instead, he wouldn't fuck up the originals anymore.
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#210441
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Should there be an ULTIMATE EDITION!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/210441/action/topic#210441
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Originally posted by: Je
First of all the trilogy dvd quality sucks. The movies had so many errors its heart breaking. Some I came with a few ideas.
1. They should use obi from I,II and III in the trilogy. This way they can change alot of things that really need to be changed. If they use him they could show that he recognizes r2 & 3po but doen't say it. The lightsaber fight between vader & obi in IV ANH sucks! They can redo it with him to make it a little better but not to stunty and sword twisting like I,II and III. So that means vader would have to change too. Which would be good because vaders helmet looks like crap in IV. They can place a better looking vader in IV (not changing the scenes just vader). Also in VI ROTJ obi could tell luke that he promise to train anakin (promised Qui Gon in I).
2. LIGHTSABERS! what went wrong with that. Man pick a color please, are they red or pink, green or blue. In I,II and III the lightsabers look perfect and have the right color. That really needs to change in the trilogy. When the lightsabers touch you should see that bright light and here that sound more clearer. Where is the orange burn mark when the saber slices something (when luke gets his hand cut off - when vader gets his hand cut off or when luke is slicing all those guys on jabbas ship in VI).
3. I think all the space travel, starship fights should be CGI ( all space scenes including the deathstar). Look how perfect all the space fights, starships and planets looked in I,II and III. I wouldn't mind a CGI yoda either.
4. Stormtroopers should have the same voice from I,II and III.
5. They should replace the unmasking scene in VI with a burnt deformed Hayden like in III. I think they should use the same voice still (a voice over sounds like it would work).
These changes and a few more sounds good. What do you think?
2007 or 2008 - "STAR WARS TRILOGY ULTIMATE ANIVERSARY EDITION - HD DVD" (with all of the changes)
I wish George Lucus would read this and make it happen


Your ideas stink like dead rats, unless you're being satirical in which case I applaud you for not throwing a give-away Smiley on the end of your post.

The lightsabers looked like crap in the new movies, the CGI was hit and miss.
What you *really* want is for George Lucas to make 4, 5, and 6 Again, correct? I don't think one can really 'make' the originals match up with the new ones. If you want 6 movies that work together, you'd really just have to wait 20 years, then get all the PT actors back onboard to make 4, 5 and 6.

The bonus about this idea (making an all new 'OT') is that maybe he'd quit fucking with the good movies.

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#209410
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OT.com Main Page Updated
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/209410/action/topic#209410
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Corruption, that'd only occur in a proper DVD if you scratch the surface. We're not talking about DVD-R, where the dye supposedly shifts over time. We're talking about pressed ones. Unscratched, these should last longer than I will. It's less a discussion about the quality of the medium, and more self-responsibility I should think.

I totally understand what you mean about DVD being less desirable or whatever, but what I'm getting at is that VHS and DVD become obsolete for different reasons. VHS *should* be obsolete. It's crap. DVD sure isn't HD, but it's more than enough for a lot of people, and the store-bought discs should last a very long time.
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#208602
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OT.com Main Page Updated
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/208602/action/topic#208602
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
I still think the value of "OriginalTrilogy.com" will remain as we move to hi-def formats. In a few years, having the O-OT on DVD will be as obsolete as having it on VHS. If Lucas releases the saga on Blu-Ray or whatever and fails to give a hi-def xfer of the O-OT, our battle will begin anew.


Can't say I agree.

The battle will no longer be in the hands of people who just want a long-lasting copy of the movies they grew up with. DVD is high enough quality for a lot of people. For instance - I've long looked for things like Moth3r's project, because I just want some copy of the movie that will outlast me, and I didn't want to dick around with VHS anymore.

This is no longer an issue, assuming this DVD release is done well.

To say that DVD will be as obsolete as VHS isn't quite true. A VHS tape degrades over time, even if you take good care of it. A DVD won't really change at all provided you maintain the thing. The technology itself might become outmoded and unfashionable, but DVD's won't be out-of-the-picture for the same reason as VHS. VHS is dead because it sucks. DVD's will probably fade from popularity because people generally suck and don't know a good thing when they've got it.

The battle will most likely be taken up by hobbyists. Hi-Def to me is just superfluous, I don't have a TV which would gain anything from such technology, and my computer screen ain't so big either.
DVD quality is good enough for most people. There just won't be enough people who care that much to make such a push.

However, what I see happening is - now that they've got it in some releasable form, surely it'd be easier for them to put onto hi-def? I mean, if it's there, then it can't be that much trouble for them to just throw it in anyway.

And finally - I really wouldn't worry about the value of the site going anywhere! People love to tinker with these movies, that sort of thing will never die out.

Here's to September!
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#207208
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Was the FULL Biggs/Luke Yavin 4 scene in the 77 TE?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207208/action/topic#207208
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It's one of the worst edits ever (in the SE). I love how the bluescreen guy walks across and everything jumps forward about 16 seconds. I call him "Time Distortion Man". He's the kind of guy, when he's at the office - he walks past the water cooler/coffee machine, and people look up and say 'Hey Time Distortion Man!', but they look at their drink and it's finished - BECAUSE HE'S DISTORTED TIME, AND THE DRINK IS FROM THE FUTURE - WHEN YOU'VE ALREADY FINISHED IT!

Hahah. To say nothing of what happens if Time Distortion Man ever *waves* at anyone. His arm goes into blue-screen artifacting mode. Woah.....

CRAZY UTAHRAPTOR!
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#207063
Topic
ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207063/action/topic#207063
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I did have one thought about it though. If they do screw this up (and I'm not for a moment saying they definitely will - I will offer up my trust until September) then it really will be the end, you know! It's not like one can start a new petition saying : "Well... ok, we've got the OOT now. But can we have it in better quality?". That'd probably get 12 signatures and not even 1/10th the publicity that the current petition got.

So all I can say is, I hope they get it right.
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#206951
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.: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/206951/action/topic#206951
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I'm an eminently trusting person. I will wait till September before I pass judgement on these DVDs.
I think it's hilarious how harsh some people are being though. Pretty much the only preservation project that ever interested me was Moth3rs version, because there was absoultely no bullshit. None of this 'presentation will truly blow your MIIIIND' crap... just the movie. Bam.
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#206950
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Finally At Peace With Star Wars...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/206950/action/topic#206950
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He's famous for saying contradictory things. He also said something like "They'll probably get released once VHS is obsolete, though they won't get the work done to them that the 2004 versions did" (those aren't his words, that was just the gist).

Yeah. Anyway.
Was Robert Wise on crack when he made that Special Edition of ST:TMP? I was pleasantly surprised to see that 3-6 weren't interfered with and I actually *liked* the stuff that got put into Star Trek 2. 5 out of 6 ain't bad.

Anyway.

I'm happy that this OOT thing is finally working out. Though I must admit, I thought I was onto a winner when I got Moth3r's ANH disc. That thing is solid gold.
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#206946
Topic
The Official 2006 Discs Will Be No Better Than What We Have!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/206946/action/topic#206946
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Great thread this. haha.

Look, I don't want to be too heavy on you folks - we all like to worry about these things because we all like the movies a lot. But really... give it time maybe? September is a ways off. When you can put this 'new' set in my hand and show me how shit it is, then fire away. But this really is most pathetic, slanging off George Lucas even though he's finally coughed up what all those signatures were asking for.

I don't see a 'loser' in this situation. They get to release the OOT as 'quaint, funny and outdated extras', and we get what we want. Hah. I'm not seeing a problem.

And finally, when they say '1993 technology', this does not necessarily mean George Lucas is going to dig out his old LaserDisc player and do it that way. They *might* just mean that the film will only be as cleaned up as the 1993 process could allow. MAYBE? In any case I still see no problem. Nobody is going to have to put up with Jedi Rocks or Hayden Christenisissy ever again.
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#206627
Topic
The Official 2006 Discs Will Be No Better Than What We Have!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/206627/action/topic#206627
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The amount of pessimistic people in this thread, honestly... I haven't seen so many people who don't know what they're talking about since I had a family of Creationists over for dinner.

Take a good long look at your calendar. Is it September yet? No? Hah! So stop your miserable bitching, you don't even have a clue!

Look - when you buy the thing, and you can show it to me and have hard evidence that 'Lucas is a whore, he's screwed us over *again*' then sure, I'll agree with you. You have it in writing, right here - I will 100% support you in your bitching.
But this sucks. So many months before it's even out, and you're crying like babies... hahaha.
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#206620
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ITS HAPPENED-- OOT AVAILABLE FROM LUCASFILM
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/206620/action/topic#206620
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I saw this at imdb and honestly couldn't believe my eyes. WOW.

But you know - it's an interesting about-face isn't it? That Ward guy (in the announcement of the '04 set) was all "we appreciate that people want to see the originals (I'm paraphrasing heavily, I don't have his statement on me at the moment) but this is art" or some crap.

Oh well. I could care less. OoT on the way. Rock on!
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#185709
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Update on the TV show, an now Lucas is getting involved!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/185709/action/topic#185709
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Originally posted by: Scotty Balls

... Star Wars as a watchable medium is dead. The books & comics have consistantly been of superior quality, and more interesting....

You haven't read Kevin J Anderson have you? I've got to admit, I've always had a thing for books written by Timothy Zahn, but that's about it. The rest of it is *bunk*.

Originally posted by: Scotty Balls

... As far as the TV series are concerned, I can go to the bathroom & shit out something of better quality than Lucas can now....


You think highly of your turds.
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#182235
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Info: HEY! You Fan Editors are all mini George Lucases!!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/182235/action/topic#182235
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"We don't have the money, resourses, or masters like Lucas does, but we certainly beat him when it comes to determination to make the OOT the best it can be for the fans who want it."

Well... as much as I agree that George Lucas has done some truly stupifying things to the original movies... exactly how are you 'beating' him? He's doing what he 'thinks' is right, he 'thinks' he's making the films the best that they can be for the fans.
Now I personally think he's lost the plot, but there are those out there (some of which even bother to post here, heh) who reckon the '04 versions are better.

I don't think you're "beating" him at anything, but you're doing a sterling job of "disagreeing" with him, sticking to your guns and so forth and for that I commend you all. But uh... yeah.