Williarob

SSE Cover, take 4 (“Special Edition” was spelled wrong):

RU.08 said:

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Oh and @Williarob - NOOO! You removed the sacred burn marks!! 😦 I guess I’ll have to make my own version.

The Tantive marks? Yeah, sorry, I have no nostalgia for them. There are smaller brown marks like that throughout the film and I did my best to remove them all.

If you meant the Reel Change marks, they are still there. Only the “home made” white blotches (made with Tippex/Whiteout?) got removed.

clutchins said:

Should Team Blu work on ESB and ROTJ 35mm, would they still call them Silver Screen Edition?

I don’t know. It would be nice to have a “Silver Screen Trilogy”, but at the same time it’s probably wise to distinguish Team Blu’s work from that of TN1… And with Harmy and Dre on board, perhaps “Ultimate Edition” would be a better title.

oohteedee said:

Thanks for all the work on this.
One minor detail is at the end of the credits it still says (V1.5)
Perfect otherwise.

Ah. Missed that. Oh well too late now. It hardly seems worth 3 full days re-encoding, rebuilding, raring and paring etc just for that. Besides, I only called it v1.6 to make it easier to find and to distinguish from what came before, really the original upload was just a beta version, and this is the final 1.5 release with the bugs worked out.

Mr. Brown (formerly of Team Negative One) and I worked together to fulfil the team’s earlier promise of an improved bluray version, and we really hope you enjoy it as much as we do, but for me at least, it’s on to Team Blu projects now… Which may yet include the 35mm ESB and Jedi projects TN1 didn’t get to… And maybe even a new version of Star Wars based on Poita’s scan, as well as a bunch of other films I’ve never even seen. So that should be fun.

But there won’t be a SSE v1.7. If you’re on the fence about downloading because you think 1.7 is coming soon, then let me help you decide. As far as this scan goes, there is a law of diminishing marginal returns and while there is still room for improvement, I think it is wiser to move on to Poita’s scan and see what Team Blu can do with that.

I’m not even going to comment on that public relations disaster. For those of you who didn’t download 1.5 or 1.6 yet, I put together a few (low rez but still useful) comparison frames to give you an idea of what has changed…

http://imgur.com/a/RkKhd

Good Catch. ‘Stereo’ was also spelled wrong. SSE Cover, Take 3:

Those little mini-laserdisc’s above are awesome! I want some!

For reasons none of us understand, he doesn’t want it on the Spleen, however, he has no objections to it being posted anywhere else. So, just post it somewhere else.

In the meantime, I updated the cover to use the xwings from the SSE:

Here’s my artwork for SSE 1.6:

Artwork:

Thanks again Rob. Hopefully you don’t have a problem with any of this.

You’re welcome. Hope you enjoy it.

I can do it. I have the software to extract them from DVDs and convert it to any format, including BD. I can re-time them to different frame rates, offset the start time if needed and split them for seamless branching. In short, I’m pretty sure we’re covered on subtitles from here on out.

canofhumdingers said:

Man, I wish I could unsee the missing lasers… 😕 Of course I want this latest version but I don’t have access to a dual layer bluray burner (heck, just to burn the single layer discs I was already having to pester a friend who I don’t really know all that well to come over and use his computer) so I was content to keep watching the first release. But the missing lasers are gonna bug me every time now…

Does anyone know just how many lasers were erased? Or even a rough estimate?

Only 4 have been pointed out to me, and they have all been restored for v1.6. (The other two are in the trench run and presumably you didn’t miss them.)

TV’s Frink said:

dark_jedi said:

I got permission from the negative 1 group

The group that no longer exists?

The group no longer exists, but the people do…

Well, if there are no more bugs, I shall launch the encoder and begin the lengthy rebuild process…

towne32 said:

Would you use the English theatrical stereo DTS-HD MA track from Harmy’s, then? I don’t recall if you had this problem, but I needed to swap it in with multi-avchd rather than the software you’re using. Problem is (for me) that multi didn’t place nice with branching titles.

Yes. I just used EAC3To to extract the lossless track from the DTS-HD MA as a .wav, then using VirtualDub I loaded the SSE video and Audio -> Audio From Another File… selected the new .wav. Edited the footage to End of flyover, File -> Save as Wav; revert edits and this time edit for the rest of the film and save .wav. Then simply refresh the assets in the authoring software and boom, New English Stereo Audio track to replace the old glitchy one.

If I needed to, I could re-encode as DTS-HD and then bring that in, but PCM is fine for this disc.

FekLeyrTarg said:

Have you considered putting some foreign language audio tracks on the BD50 aswell, like any German track available out there for instance?

35mm Spanish audio is included. Not going to include any others though as that would require new menu buttons and more programming.

yoda-sama said:

Williarob said:
Thank you! Found and fixed both of these.

To fix it, I’d think you’d have to have the proper frames on hand, meaning the problem was introduced down the line. So, what caused that? Was it a mistake of automated cleanup?

Looks like an auto cleanup mistake. Fixing it required locating the original frames, color matching them, registering them, and then essentially just cutting out the laser bolt so that it sits on top of the clean frame in the right place. 10 minutes work, accomplished before breakfast.

Just finished rechecking the whole film (found about 5 more shots that had been color corrected after cleaning, but the fixes had not been updated with the new colors. So those are all fixed now too.

If there is nothing else, the re-encode will begin soon. I’m also going to see about switching the English stereo track with one from the despecialized edition.

slumberdore said:

Alright here is the first missing laser:

Silver Screen Edition v1

Puggo Grande

Another laser is fired after this one which is also missing in the SSE.

Thank you! Found and fixed both of these.

Nice!

towne32 said:

One minor glitch that I notice when watching SSE, is in this shot: https://picasaweb.google.com/102542760950977079734/StarWarsSpecialEditionChangesHD#5514975327942007154

There’s a point where there’s some artifact or warping in the bottom right corner.

Also, I wouldn’t normally have mentioned it since it’s not a big deal and SSE isn’t meant to be 100% dirt free, but since it’s right nearby where I’m talking about: the very next shot (after the wipe) has some pretty huge visible damage on a few frames, from what I recall.

Fixed the warping and the problems with the shot after the wipe. Keep 'em coming!

slumberdore said:

Williarob said:

Do you happen to have the frame numbers?

No, should I post some comparison images instead?

That would be great, thanks!

yoda-sama said:

Williarob said:

Lasz said:
around 01:10:00 there’s an audio glitch when CPO says “that isn’t very reassuring” instead of the word “that” there’s a tiny piece of audio score from probably a different part of the film.

Presumably that is in the mono mix? The mono mix was missing a number of frames throughout the film. I did my best to patch the holes using the existing version of the mono mix, but I’m not as good at working with audio tracks as I am with video, so apologies for that.

Since it looks like you’ll be doing one last reencode and compiling the BD again, with all the “unknowns” about the included audio it might be a good time to consider hairy_hen’s thorough '77 stereo audio restoration. I agree his 5.1 mix would be out of scope (and I’d like to be clear I’m not asking for that) for a 35mm preservation, but I would encourage you to look at some of the options available, especially if there are odd issues cropping up in this laserdisc audio source you’ve chosen (beyond all the distortion, etc., issues hairy_hen already mentioned about this same source).

I’ll do that.

slumberdore said:

Williarob said:

With that in mind, are there any other major visual glitches that will require a re-encode?

I’ve spotted two missing lasers in the Tantive sequence, in the shot where the stormtroopers start filling into the corridor one stormtrooper fires two shots against the wall.

Do you happen to have the frame numbers?

Interesting. Well I didn’t edit the stereo mix at all, so I guess that is how it is on the laserdisc.

Meanwhile, I have fixed the visual glitches in the “What Mission?” 3P0 shot in the desert - (it was just as I suspected).

With that in mind, are there any other major visual glitches that will require a re-encode? Speak now or forever hold your peace. Actually I’ll give you until tomorrow morning as I’m sure not everybody is reading this post right now this second.

It will take a day or two to fully re-encode the whole movie and rebuild the disc, so if there is anything else that needs fixing, now is the time to speak up!