logo Sign In

Wesyeed

User Group
Members
Join date
6-Nov-2004
Last activity
20-Sep-2021
Posts
455

Post History

Post
#213324
Topic
The Chronology of How My love for Lucas has fallen
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213324/action/topic#213324
Time
Welcome to the Dark Side of the star wars fandom. It's not so bad...

Back at tfn, and some other places on theweb, back when the preqs (the PU as someone called it once )were out, I'd get blasted with insults if I questioned George's quality as god of star wars from which all good in star wars flowed.... I look back at how I recanted, backpeddled and all that junk just so internet bullies wouldn't hassle me for having a different point of view and it pains me to know that I second guessed my own deeply felt judgement about where my beloved movies were being taken.

It started for me with one word...

Midichlorian? Wtf is this shit?

From there it spiraled down slowly into the mess we have now known as the PU. I wanted them all to be great. And indeed each film has a great film hidden beneath lots of cgi crap inside it that editors are desperately trying erase. I wish peter jackson could have been handed at least one of the PT films to do. The LOTR trilogy is how I've really dreamed it would have been done for years, with real heart, lots of kickass action of course, and a good story. Then With Spielberg sending us home with episode three.... oh ... that would have been sweet.

Well it wasn't all lost. We got some cool video games out of it. I really enjoyed the clone wars cartoons. That's how the pt should have been done: fast, fun, adventerous, mystical, like the originals and no stupid poop humor.

How telling it is that his first PT movie featured an animal pointing its ass straight at all of us and letting one rip... lol.
Post
#209399
Topic
Help: Ideas Wanted for... "Episode 3" or "What Convinced Me To Try a Re-edit"
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/209399/action/topic#209399
Time
Originally posted by: Erikstormtrooper
Copied from the Starkiller ranch thread, my thoughts on having Vader die in ROTS:

Have Anakin actually die in front of Obi-Wan in ROTS after he burns. This solves a few issues for me:

1) Ben's dishonesty in ANH is a little more believeable. If Anakin literally dies, it's more believable for Ben to say that Vader "murdered him".

2) In ROTJ, Vader says to Luke, "You don't understand the power of the dark side. I MUST obey." Why is this? Why does he have to obey? My impression of Vader is that it was always his hate (and tie to the dark side) that kept him alive inside the suit. So if he really did die in the lava, and Palpatine actually does use his Sith powers to bring him back from death, then vader has to obey in order to continue living. The second he ceases to serve the dark side, he begins to die.

3) Many people may not be fans of the Hayden ghost at the end of the ROTJ DVD, but it makes a lot more sense if Anakin really dies in ROTS. The Hayden ghost is what got me thinking about all this in the first place. When I saw the ROTJ DVD, I really expected that Lucas would have Anakin die in ROTS.

As far as how to accomplish this, I've just started to think about it. The scene where Anakin burns in front of Obi-Wan would have to be tweaked so that it appears that Anakin is motionless before Obi-Wan walks away. Then Palpatine would come and say something to the effect of, "I will help you, my friend" (I don't know if the source for these lines exists).

We would cut most of the scene of Vader being constructed since Anakin is obviously alive. Only keep the tail end of the scene where the helmet lowers on Anakin's scarred face. Perhaps it's possible to get a static image of Anakin's scarred face as the mask lowers, so that he appears dead up until that point of the first breath in the mask. I don't think the scene with Vader rising on the operating platform has to be changed.

What I'm getting at is, Sidious uses his Sith magic/technology to bring back Vader from death and put him in a mechanical suit. We always hear about the power of the dark side, but we have yet to really see what that is (I think). I believe this process where we see a dead person come back alive in a mechanical suit IS the power of the dark side. It's their attempt at immortality.


YES!!! I really really really like this idea. I wish I could do all this editing wizardry and put that together right now... I love this... it really carries through into the tortured soul theme I always thought was a big part of what made Vader who he was like frankenstein. It all fits and I think it's exactly what the old GL would have wanted...

The sith feed on death and can only use unliving machines to achieve immortality. While the Jedi feed on life, the living force, and become one with it in death and never truly die because of that. Great idea.
Post
#206359
Topic
We won!
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/206359/action/topic#206359
Time
I used to believe but then I completely lost hope and didn't believe petitions worked, but OT.com prooved me wrong. YAHOOOOO. I'm going to go to all the old star wars forums I used to visit and see what they think about this. I told everybody back in the day that lucas would eventually cave to fan pressure, but they didn't believe me. Now what? ha ha ha ha
Post
#206119
Topic
Star Wars Original Trilogy had 'it', but 'it' is hard to explain.
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/206119/action/topic#206119
Time
yes absolutely, I felt the characters in the OT were people... real people... nothing really dramatic about them until later but when it all started I felt they were just like you or me but dealing with really wacky situations. And maybe that enhanced the 'it' factor because we were feeling the amazment that they felt also. When they saw the big killing ball for the first time in close-up, we saw it too. When wedge saw the big death ball and said "look at the size of that thing", we could empathize. When the deathticle blew up a planet, leia's face told us how horrified she was that something like that could ever be done even in her fantasy world, so it really connected with how we'd react to something like that Im sure. There's a real human element to the story that I think clicks with us. When it doesn't it might as well be a fun cartoon and nothing more since nothing is real about it so no connection like that could be made. The sense of realism (down to earth) in a fantasy world as outrageous as star wars is what makes it great to me. On star trek, it's very military oriented and people really act like robots all the time like spock. In star wars, even the robots are very human being.
Post
#205810
Topic
Star Wars Original Trilogy had 'it', but 'it' is hard to explain.
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/205810/action/topic#205810
Time
Besides the already known things like williams memorable scores and the fx, perfect casting, excellent chem between the principal players, and actual characters that were worth caring about... I think it's how tight the first movie is. It's been described as the perfectly carved jem, not a rough edge or loose wire anywhere. which the pt is full of and which many editors thankfully are cutting out. I think that's "it". How'd he do it? I guess it was the lack of money to do a lot of unnecessary stuff like he's doing with the SE.
Post
#204812
Topic
***The "Darth Editous" Episode V DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a work in progress
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/204812/action/topic#204812
Time
I'm so excited to see this once it's completed.

What I'm most eager to see:

Emperor scene un-prequelized

What I'm most eager to hear:

Boba Fett Un-prequelized

those are my biggest gripes with esb. besides that and the wampa scene seeming out of sync with the new footage and something about the cropping of the millenium falcon's cockpit, oh and of course the terrible sabers, not much else comes to my mind about what needs polishing and such.
Post
#204518
Topic
***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/204518/action/topic#204518
Time
I always thought the sound during the SE wampa scenes was miscoordinated or something when they put it together.

Now my memory is a bit unclear here but what I think was wrong was the way we still heard the taunt taun even though it's pretty clear that the monster is munching away on its remains. One shot we see luke, and we hear the taunt taun scream. Next shot it's the monster eating the taun taun. Next shot it's luke and we hear the taun taun scream again. That just didn't seem right to me. DE's probably already noticed this though.
Post
#200840
Topic
***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/200840/action/topic#200840
Time
Oh damn, I left the cover out when I burned it to dvd months ago (I should have just burned it as a data disc and not a dvd...) I don't really know about the differences between ntsc and pal except a few bits about framerate and resolution.... So I can only say I'm mostly sure it's ntsc since that's usually what I go for when downloading the edits from the newsgroup or torrent, and I don't have any pal dvds in my possession because they're not sold here. Unfortuntately I just can't remember clearly which it was and that's not solid proof. Is there a tool I can use or some calculation I could make based on something that'll prove it's one or the other? I really want to be sure people know what they're getting.

And no links to torrents? oops, sorrry. now I know.


Also, I think DE's OCD is nothing compared to Lucas'
Post
#200613
Topic
***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/200613/action/topic#200613
Time
It kills me that there are some out there who can't get a copy of this, so I made a torrent at demonoid.com.

for Non-demonoid members, This is the first torrent I've made so I don't know if it'll work for non-members or not. But here she is anyway: [Direct link to torrent file removed.] Sorry for spelling your name wrong, DE.

The speed will be extremely slow at first. I'll do what I can to make it faster every other hour or so. It'd actually be faster if my isp weren't such a grouch about these sorts of things.

:: Made a couple of minor edits to your post.
- M