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clutchins said:

Mostly Laserdisc transfers, which look much better than VHS in general. Not sure if there was ever a pan and scan version of the faces set on Laserdisc though.

No, there wasn’t. I’m not sure if anyone has made a transfer of that set, but there may be a transfer of the 1982 VHS floating around somewhere. I’ve been meaning to capture my Faces set eventually but haven’t gotten around to it yet.

Edit: My suggestion would be to go to a local thrift store and pick up a VCR and a shitty test tape to see if it works.

So is this going to get a special version number, like 1.7 or something? I just think it sounds cooler than 2.0 workprint 😃. Anyway, what all is being done for this workprint? Is anything from the SE remaining? Is there any residual GOUT residue?

CatBus said:

This has been discussed many times elsewhere. The consensus seems to be – no, there’s no indication of there being an 85 mix for ESB and ROTJ of any sort, substantive or not. Minor differences reported from release to release are not inconsistent with the slight variation of a single mix applied over multiple releases.

Also AFAICT, there’s no content difference (i.e. different dialogue or effects) in the 93 mix of Jedi.

I know you’re probably collecting VHS tapes for some sentimental reason and there’s nothing wrong with that, but I do want to remind you that there are much, much, better ways out there to hear the 77/80/83/85/93 mixes.

So is there a 93 version of Empire that’s different from the 80 mix?

What do pants have to do with anything?

I don’t really see why directors proudly exclaim that they’re shooting on film and then make a DI and project exclusively digitally. Really all there is to gain is natural grain (I could be a rapper…), but a good chunk of that is scrubbed away anyway. I just recently saw Spectre and it was almost devoid of grain. I mean, the trailer for TFA look like they were shot digitally.
So what is the actual reason for shooting on film if you’re not going to finish it on film or project it on film? What is there to gain?

Well, here you go.

PS Thanks Frink.

V2? Did I miss something? Was there a V1 that wasn’t the Grindhouse?

I believe the 92 set uses the 85 mixes, and I also believe that those were the first letterboxed VHS copies available in the US. I’m not 100% sure on this, however.

Does anyone know of any 35mm showings like, anywhere? I haven’t heard anything.

Anyway, By brother and our wives are going to marathon the OUT on the 23rd and then going to a local Regal (blech) to see it in 2D. I also want to see it in IMAX in some form. Unfortunately there aren’t any 70mm showings super close to me, but I may work it out so I see it anyway. At the very least I will see it in lieMAX 3D at the same Regal.

Look for the OUT Rules transfer. apparently it’s incredible looking. Previously, someone had attempted a transfer using the best LD player ever released (Pioneer X0), but I believe some deaths ended that one. Any GOUT upscale will have more detail regardless. It came straight from the master tapes, and being on DVD, generally has more detail than is possible with Laserdisc. My preferred upscale is the DJ GOUT V3, but he also worked as a part of Team Blu and they did another fantastic upscale of Star Wars (77/97) alone.

You could go for “DVD Version” for the 2004 and “Saga/Canonical Version” for the 2011.

FrankT said:

Help me out here, I honestly have trouble seeing what’s wrong with the picture. Could someone point an example out to me or something?

You and me both. Yeah, I can see the DNR and EE, but it really doesn’t look waxy or destroy the look of the film for me. Obviously the older issues like improper framing or pink yellows are an issue, but this does not look that bad to me.

Mavimao said:

towne32 said:

He means the theatrical versions of porn, obviously.

And don’t gimme any of those teal and orange, DNR jobs on bluray!

I don’t know what a DNR job is, but it sounds disgusting.

TV’s Frink said:

It’s always fun when someone comes to originaltrilogy.com to try and convince us the prequels were good.

Well popular consensus (and by that I mean Rotten Tomatoes) says that Revenge of the Sith is better than Jedi, so it’s not that surprising that some actually like the film as well as the OT.

It’s possible using branching, but as an official release, this will never happen.

I watch the 97 trilogy on laserdisc and watch the unaltered trilogy using various fan preservations and upscales.

Alternatively, you can try to find the Malaysian video CD release, which should work in most DVD players, though I’m not sure about blu ray players. The quality is also considered to be somewhere between worse than VHS and about as good as laserdisc, so they’re a bit of a gamble.

Those are bootlegs that are just captures of the special edition laserdisc. Save your money. Look into finding the TB 97 trilogy. They are captures of PAL broadcast tapes (I believe) that were used to show the fipms on TV in Europe. The quality is not the best, but it’s the best available for the 97 trilogy at the moment. Team Blu also did a great upscale of ANH using this capture, and it looks significantly better.

That’s wonderful to hear about your daughter. Now you focus on getting better yourself.

OT only, in a single day.

1. SW- DED 2.5
   Really the best that’s available. No contest until we get a full 35mm scan.
2. ESB- Renegade Grindhouse
   HD, and no chance of a SE change slipping in.
3. ROTJ- Dark jedi GOUT V3
   Best thing there is until we get a new DED or 35mm scan.

I’ll be watching with my wife, my brother and his wife, my brother in law, and maybe a couple other people.

Probably just 2011 DCPs.

That looks awesome! Great work. Can’t wait to see what the others look like. I’ve always been a fan of the Special Edition art, and it goes well with the"Ultimate Edition" tagline.

Also, did you decide which preservations you’ll be using?

Could you post a few screen shots?

Oh yeah, I’m definitely not trying to imply it’s a different master, just different color on the same master.

The timing is definitely different there.