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Warbler

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#1228262
Topic
Is Star Wars "Better Than It's Ever Been"?
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TV’s Frink said:

I’d rather have more content than less.

Sometimes less is more.

Back then I had three movies.

Now I have seven.

Back then Star Wars movies were special, now they are not.

7?

Ot 3 + pt 3 + st 2 = 8 add in Rogue 1 and Solo and you get 10.

Now wins.

in your opinion.

And I’m not sorry.

In my opinion, now loses. I’m am not sorry either.

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#1228203
Topic
Taking a stand against toxic fandom (and other )
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oojason said:

Warbler said:

oojason said:

Warbler said:

Kellythatsit said:

Seriously, this is a series of fictional films!

We’ve nicknamed a whole generation of people based on this “series of fictional films” Perhaps they are a little more special than other series of fictional films.

Used in the context of ‘People are sending death threats and behaving like absolute nobs just because someone made a star war they didn’t like’ it seems fair enough, yes?

‘Seriously, this is a series of fictional films!’ - That’s the bit you have decided to take issue with? Fair enough…

 

I agree sending death threats is totally unacceptable. Anyone that does so should be prosecuted. I agree harassing the actors and forcing them to shut down their Facebook pages is totally unacceptable. As for behaving like abosolute nobs, I’d have know exactly what you refer to before condemning them.

and you thought you’d learn this by taking issue with ‘Seriously, this is a series of fictional films’? Okay, good luck with that.

Huh? I learned sending death threats was unacceptable a long time ago, so I really don’t understand what you are saying here.

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#1228201
Topic
Taking a stand against toxic fandom (and other )
Time

oojason said:

Warbler said:

Kellythatsit said:

Seriously, this is a series of fictional films!

We’ve nicknamed a whole generation of people based on this “series of fictional films” Perhaps they are a little more special than other series of fictional films.

Used in the context of ‘People are sending death threats and behaving like absolute nobs just because someone made a star war they didn’t like’ it seems fair enough, yes?

‘Seriously, this is a series of fictional films!’ - That’s the bit you have decided to take issue with? Fair enough…

 

I agree sending death threats is totally unacceptable. Anyone that does so should be prosecuted. I agree harassing the actors and forcing them to shut down their Facebook pages is totally unacceptable. As for behaving like abosolute nobs, I’d have know exactly what you refer to before condemning them.

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#1227781
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

chyron8472 said:

Warbler said:

Has the ok hand sign:

become a symbol of the KKK?

It is and it isn’t.
https://lifehacker.com/is-this-an-innocent-ok-sign-or-a-white-power-symbol-1825575794

Some people think it is, and some people do use it to mean that; but many who use it aren’t alt-right and don’t mean it to mean that. I think it’s still up in the air whether it’s associated with that or not. Some people are starting to associate it, but it’s not really caught on. So yes and no.

There also may be more people like me out there that have no idea of any sinister meaning to the okay symbol and just think it means “okay”.

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#1227699
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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chyron8472 said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

Handman said:

Mrebo, are you a Trump supporter?

Not really. Didn’t vote for him but have been pleasantly surprised by many policy decisions/nominations. The tariff and immigration policies are not to my liking. Then there are the personal issues and inability to be focused and coherent. On the other side are people in hysterics. Neither side makes it easy for people who care about the policy issues.

The Presidency is not just solely about policy issues. It is a leadership position. He is the commander and chief of the military.

Commander-in-chief.

…just saying.

true.

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#1227678
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

Handman said:

Mrebo, are you a Trump supporter?

Not really. Didn’t vote for him but have been pleasantly surprised by many policy decisions/nominations. The tariff and immigration policies are not to my liking. Then there are the personal issues and inability to be focused and coherent. On the other side are people in hysterics. Neither side makes it easy for people who care about the policy issues.

The Presidency is not just solely about policy issues. It is a leadership position. He is the commander and chief of the military. He has the nuke codes. The President is the person the country turns to during times of national crisis. Think natural disaster. Think 911. Even if I did agree with Trumps policies(and I don’t), I doubt I could vote for him.

Mrebo, do you think you’ll vote for Trump in 2020?

Good.

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#1227677
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

moviefreakedmind said:

My vote doesn’t count where I live. I suspect that any letter to my representatives would be promptly filed in the garbage and pushing for change isn’t something I want to do and even if I did it’d be a waste of my time because no one cares about what I have to say.

Oh well.

The cops do have the power to be principled and not arrest people for victimless crimes.

So how far do you want that to go? who decides what is and is not a victimless crime.

Me. In all seriousness, it’s common sense.

To you it is common sense, maybe to me too. (although I once walked by people whom I think were smoking marijuana and the smell made me sick to my stomach and almost made me vomit)

No one with any grasp on reality thinks that marijuana is a dangerous drug worthy of being criminalized.

and yet it was criminalized. So I guess some people thought it was a dangerous drug.

I am not saying that it is a dangerous drug. If it is not, change the law. But don’t blame cops cause others passed a bad law.

They often don’t do that, though because the justice system and our private prisons thrive and throwing innocent people in jail.

huh?

Yeah, that was not my proudest grammatical moment. I said, “They often don’t do that [meaning looking the other way on drug possession charges] because people in our justice system and our private prison industry make so much money off of imprisoning people, even if they’re innocent or not deserving of being in prison.”

You do realize the powers that be can’t just throw people in jail, right? You do realize that people have a right to a trial in which a jury of their peers(and not government) decides their fate.

Like I said, principled men and women wouldn’t be a part of this. Sell-outs that want paychecks might be able to ignore their consciences enough to do it.

*sigh* (that is the only reasonable response I can think of to this.)

How is that reasonable and how is what I said unreasonable. I find it really insulting when I get disregarded as though I’m just some fool that isn’t even worthy responding to.

Then don’t post foolish things.

I am not totally against looking the other way sometimes.

On cases of drug possession (especially marijuana possession) any cop, judge, or prosecutor that doesn’t look the other way disgusts me and is immoral to the core and is antithetical to American freedom and I think we’d be better off if they were immediately removed from their positions of power.

Oh good grief.

What? Arresting someone and potentially ruining their life because they imbibed marijuana is a disgusting crime against humanity.

a crime against humanity?

Like I said if the law is bad, change it. But don’t blame the cops cause a bad law was passed.

and no one worthy of any respect would uphold laws allowing murder.

So you want the sheriff to just be able to do whatever he wants until it is not what you agree with.

No. I think he should do everything in his power to advocate for reforming the law and until that happens he should step down. You shouldn’t be able to sleep at night if you’re a part of this unjust bullshit.

Oh brother. It is easy to say that someone should quit their job when they aren’t the one with the job in question.

I’ve quit plenty of jobs that offended my sensibilities.

Well that is great for you. Others like their job. Others have bills to pay and mouths to feed.

He can advocate for reform without quitting his job.

He doesn’t even seem to be doing that.

I don’t know that it is the sheriff’s job to do that. It is the sheriff’s job to enforce the law(whether he agrees with the law in question or not)

Might sometimes come to that in extreme circumstances like that holocaust, yes. I don’t see this situation as that extreme.

Why do we have to let it get that extreme before taking a stand?

Because otherwise you don’t have a law abiding civilized society. The law is not a suggestion or advice.

I’m saying that I don’t respect cops because I don’t respect the laws and systems that they uphold. If anything, I’m saying that the respectable cops need to wake up and get out of their police departments.

So you are saying you don’t like a American and our Constitutional, democratic republic form of government. Got it. I can’t say I am shocked by this.

I would argue that what we have now makes a mockery of the democratic republic form of government that our Constitution is supposed to guarantee us. Corrupt people have more or less monopolized the power in this country and present us with shitty choices each election cycle. My vote, because I’m surrounded by people diametrically opposed to everything I stand for, counts for nothing in elections at the local, state, or federal level. Presumably that is not what “a American” government was supposed to be.

If you are surrounded by people diametrically opposed to everything you stand for, there is nothing the government can do about that.

I didn’t ask them to do anything about that. I was just explaining why my vote counts for nothing where I live.

It sometimes happens that one is in the minority. (unless you either want the government to force you or those around you to move)

It wouldn’t matter where I live, I’d still be a minority on some level. I feel like a total immigrant in this life and don’t think of myself as a member of human society.

*sigh*

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#1227674
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Mrebo said:

Handman said:

Mrebo, are you a Trump supporter?

Not really. Didn’t vote for him but have been pleasantly surprised by many policy decisions/nominations. The tariff and immigration policies are not to my liking. Then there are the personal issues and inability to be focused and coherent. On the other side are people in hysterics. Neither side makes it easy for people who care about the policy issues.

The Presidency is not just solely about policy issues. It is a leadership position. He is the commander and chief of the military. He has the nuke codes. The President is the person the country turns to during times of national crisis. Think natural disaster. Think 911. Even if I did agree with Trumps policies(and I don’t), I doubt I could vote for him.

Mrebo, do you think you’ll vote for Trump in 2020?

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#1227672
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

TV’s Frink said:

Handman said:

Mrebo, are you a Trump supporter?

All Republicans are Trump supporters whether they admit it or not. It’s his party now.

What about me? I am technically a registered republican. I like to think of myself as a rino(republican in name only). It should be well known on here that I can’t stand Trump, I do not support him, and I did not vote for him. So is it really true that ALL Republicans are Trump supporters?

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#1227568
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

So you want cops to decide for themselves which laws are just and unjust? You really want cops to decide for themselves which laws they are going to enforce and which they are not? You really want to give cops that much power? I thought you didn’t like cops, I thought you didn’t trust them?

No one worthy of any respect would be willing to arrest someone for smoking marijuana

If someone should not be arrested for smoking marijuana, change the law that says they should be arrested for it.

I don’t have the power to do that and you know it.

You can vote for people to do so. You can write letters. You can push for change.

The cops do have the power to be principled and not arrest people for victimless crimes.

So how far do you want that to go? who decides what is and is not a victimless crime.

They often don’t do that, though because the justice system and our private prisons thrive and throwing innocent people in jail.

huh?

Like I said, principled men and women wouldn’t be a part of this. Sell-outs that want paychecks might be able to ignore their consciences enough to do it.

*sigh* (that is the only reasonable response I can think of to this.)

I am not totally against looking the other way sometimes.

On cases of drug possession (especially marijuana possession) any cop, judge, or prosecutor that doesn’t look the other way disgusts me and is immoral to the core and is antithetical to American freedom and I think we’d be better off if they were immediately removed from their positions of power.

Oh good grief.

But when dealing with the death of someone, you can’t just look the other way and ignore the law(barring extreme circumstances like the holocaust)

The law calls for looking the other way. I’m advocating that they don’t look the other way and actually treat this as the crime that it is.

No, I was referring to looking the other way in regards to “stand your ground” You wish to look the other way and ignore “stand your ground”.

and no one worthy of any respect would uphold laws allowing murder.

So you want the sheriff to just be able to do whatever he wants until it is not what you agree with.

No. I think he should do everything in his power to advocate for reforming the law and until that happens he should step down. You shouldn’t be able to sleep at night if you’re a part of this unjust bullshit.

Oh brother. It is easy to say that someone should quit their job when they aren’t the one with the job in question. He can advocate for reform without quitting his job. Might sometimes come to that in extreme circumstances like that holocaust, yes. I don’t see this situation as that extreme.

I’m saying that I don’t respect cops because I don’t respect the laws and systems that they uphold. If anything, I’m saying that the respectable cops need to wake up and get out of their police departments.

So you are saying you don’t like a American and our Constitutional, democratic republic form of government. Got it. I can’t say I am shocked by this.

I would argue that what we have now makes a mockery of the democratic republic form of government that our Constitution is supposed to guarantee us. Corrupt people have more or less monopolized the power in this country and present us with shitty choices each election cycle. My vote, because I’m surrounded by people diametrically opposed to everything I stand for, counts for nothing in elections at the local, state, or federal level. Presumably that is not what “a American” government was supposed to be.

If you are surrounded by people diametrically opposed to everything you stand for, there is nothing the government can do about that. It sometimes happens that one is in the minority. (unless you either want the government to force you or those around you to move)

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#1227561
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

So you want cops to decide for themselves which laws are just and unjust? You really want cops to decide for themselves which laws they are going to enforce and which they are not? You really want to give cops that much power? I thought you didn’t like cops, I thought you didn’t trust them?

No one worthy of any respect would be willing to arrest someone for smoking marijuana

If someone should not be arrested for smoking marijuana, change the law that says they should be arrested for it. I am not totally against looking the other way sometimes. But when dealing with the death of someone, you can’t just look the other way and ignore the law(barring extreme circumstances like the holocaust)

and no one worthy of any respect would uphold laws allowing murder.

So you want the sheriff to just be able to do whatever he wants until it is not what you agree with.

I’m saying that I don’t respect cops because I don’t respect the laws and systems that they uphold. If anything, I’m saying that the respectable cops need to wake up and get out of their police departments.

So you are saying you don’t like a American and our Constitutional, democratic republic form of government. Got it. I can’t say I am shocked by this.

I will say however that I having difficulty seeing how “stand your ground” justifies this shooting.

Difficulty?

Yes.

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#1227557
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

moviefreakedmind said:

There’s a quote in there from the sheriff that encapsulates why I hate cops and it’s “I don’t make the law. I enforce the law.” That’s disgusting. That was more or less the same logic behind the defense of the Nazis at Nuremberg Trials. If you are enforcing unjust and bullshit laws, then you’re part of problem.

So you want cops to decide for themselves which laws are just and unjust? You really want cops to decide for themselves which laws they are going to enforce and which they are not? You really want to give cops that much power? I thought you didn’t like cops, I thought you didn’t trust them? You do realize that cops won’t always agree with you on which laws are just/unjust and which laws should be enforced, right?

I will say however that I having difficulty seeing how “stand your ground” justifies this shooting.

The situation of the holocaust was an extreme. “I don’t make the law. I enforce the law.” is the way it works. Our elected representatives make the laws, not cops. Its called democracy. Does this mean there are no extreme circumstances where a cop should disregard a certain law/decide not to enforce a certain law? No. But for the most part, I don’t think we want cops to decide which law to enforce. Please remember the law is not a suggestion or advice.

Another thing to remember is even if the sheriff did arrest the guy, “stand your ground” would be bound to come up in court. Would you want the judge to just ignore the law as well?