Warbler

Possessed, please to what people are telling you here. suicide is not the answer.

Possessed said:

I don’t have any fucking friends apparently. And I’m already drunk.

I am very sorry to see this. It makes me very sad and depressed.

Jetrell Fo said:

DominicCobb said:

Jetrell Fo said:

DominicCobb said:

Jetrell Fo said:

DominicCobb said:

Yes let’s stop believing all the countless press institutions that have stood for generations on the principle of objective reporting and start listening to random YouTube guys instead! They’re the ones who really know what’s up.

The person whose video it was was not the point of the post. But of course, deflect if you must, the fact is these press institutions you revere bow to dollar bills. You and I do not factor in to that unless we’re watching and believing.

Why is it so difficult for some of you to use your own brains instead of letting all these news outlets feed you what you believe to be the god’s honest truth just because it caters to your emotional opinion?

Maybe frievous is right, maybe this country is going to hell in a handbasket, I’m glad I don’t count on that ride to be happy.

You should really listen to your own advice.

What matters is simply the facts. I’m sorry your side has tricked you into believing otherwise.

There is no side, we are Americans. Where did you even learn that?

Yes, we are. But your side feels the need to keep making it about “sides” even when things like decent American principles are at stake.

It is not about sides and I wish you’d stop saying “my side”.

He is entitled to think there are sides and he is entitled to think you are on one of them.

Jetrell Fo said:

Warbler said:

Jetrell Fo said:

DominicCobb said:

Jetrell Fo said:

DominicCobb said:

Yes let’s stop believing all the countless press institutions that have stood for generations on the principle of objective reporting and start listening to random YouTube guys instead! They’re the ones who really know what’s up.

The person whose video it was was not the point of the post. But of course, deflect if you must, the fact is these press institutions you revere bow to dollar bills. You and I do not factor in to that unless we’re watching and believing.

Why is it so difficult for some of you to use your own brains instead of letting all these news outlets feed you what you believe to be the god’s honest truth just because it caters to your emotional opinion?

Maybe frievous is right, maybe this country is going to hell in a handbasket, I’m glad I don’t count on that ride to be happy.

You should really listen to your own advice.

What matters is simply the facts. I’m sorry your side has tricked you into believing otherwise.

There is no side, we are Americans.

Do you think Trump believes this?

I do.

I don’t.

SilverWook said:

Back door name calling is still name calling. So knock it off.

Sorry.

Jetrell Fo said:

DominicCobb said:

Jetrell Fo said:

DominicCobb said:

Yes let’s stop believing all the countless press institutions that have stood for generations on the principle of objective reporting and start listening to random YouTube guys instead! They’re the ones who really know what’s up.

The person whose video it was was not the point of the post. But of course, deflect if you must, the fact is these press institutions you revere bow to dollar bills. You and I do not factor in to that unless we’re watching and believing.

Why is it so difficult for some of you to use your own brains instead of letting all these news outlets feed you what you believe to be the god’s honest truth just because it caters to your emotional opinion?

Maybe frievous is right, maybe this country is going to hell in a handbasket, I’m glad I don’t count on that ride to be happy.

You should really listen to your own advice.

What matters is simply the facts. I’m sorry your side has tricked you into believing otherwise.

There is no side, we are Americans.

Do you think Trump believes this?

Jetrell Fo said:

Warbler said:

Trump’s lap dog said:

DominicCobb said:

Yes let’s stop believing all the countless press institutions that have stood for generations on the principle of objective reporting and start listening to random YouTube guys instead! They’re the ones who really know what’s up.

The person whose video it was was not the point of the post. But of course, deflect if you must, the fact is these press institutions you revere bow to dollar bills. You and I do not factor in to that unless we’re watching and believing.

Why is it so difficult for some of you to use your own brains instead of letting all these news outlets feed you what you believe to be the god’s honest truth just because it caters to your emotional opinion?

Maybe frievous is right, maybe this country is going to hell in a handbasket, I’m glad I don’t count on that ride to be happy.

I’m only going to say this once. Please follow the rules laid out for this thread. Knock off the shitty personal attacks with name calling.

Thank you.

And just in case you forgot …

DuracellEnergizer said:

According to this post, the old politics thread is now permanently dead, thus I created this thread for y’all.

THREAD RULES:

• Obviously, all the rules here must be obeyed
• No crazy conspiracy theories (aliens killed JFK, Elvis did 911, Moon Landing was faked, 911 was an inside job)
• No ridiculous doom saying (like all non-Trump supporters will be rounded up and executed)
• No Frink vs Jetrell
• Debate and not Flame

Admin note:

For some history on the matter, feel free to peruse the original, long-running Politics thread:

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Politics/id/2888/page/1

Grab some popcorn and read the last ~100 pages for some great examples on how not to debate politics. The mods felt it was best to start fresh after all the vitriol and personal attacks that occurred there. New year, new rules, new thread. Keep it civil, please.

– Jay

It is only your opinion that it was name calling. You do not speak for everyone else.

Trump’s lap dog said:

DominicCobb said:

Yes let’s stop believing all the countless press institutions that have stood for generations on the principle of objective reporting and start listening to random YouTube guys instead! They’re the ones who really know what’s up.

The person whose video it was was not the point of the post. But of course, deflect if you must, the fact is these press institutions you revere bow to dollar bills. You and I do not factor in to that unless we’re watching and believing.

Why is it so difficult for some of you to use your own brains instead of letting all these news outlets feed you what you believe to be the god’s honest truth just because it caters to your emotional opinion?

Maybe frievous is right, maybe this country is going to hell in a handbasket, I’m glad I don’t count on that ride to be happy.

TV’s Frink said:

Jesus Christ, running the government should not be a reality show.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/31/politics/gorsuch-supreme-court-hardiman/

The two judges who have been considered the top finalists to be President Donald Trump’s nominee for the Supreme Court – Neil Gorsuch and Thomas Hardiman – are being brought to Washington ahead of tonight’s White House announcement, sources tell CNN.

Another one of the sources, familiar with the White House plans, said the administration is taking extraordinary measures to build suspense and keep the final selection under wraps for as close to the 8 p.m. EST announcement as possible.

yeah, this is ridiculous.

TV’s Frink said:

I assume Trump himself doesn’t believe that,

Oh, I think he does. Hence the signing of all the recent executive orders.

Jetrell Fo said:

I get the impession that Trump believes in magic wands and snapping his fingers and things automatically change to the way he wants it. It’ just not realistic no matter how much bitching or regurgitating he does.

fixed.

Jetrell Fo said:

Warbler said:

Jetrell Fo said:

In the Trump administration, they call it alternative facts

Everyone else calls it bull****

“Everyone else” is an exagerration at best unless you speak for everyone else including yourself.

😉

bull****

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Actually, I’m pretty sure Bannon is Palps and Trump is Anakin.

No, Trump is most definitely Palps.

No, Bannon is the one pulling the strings and using Trump.

I don’t think anyone pulls Trump’s strings but Trump.

Also there was always a little good in Anakin, the emperor was never able to drive it out of him completely. Do you see any good in Trump?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehumanization

So you think I’ve dehumanized Trump? Whatever I don’t care. I’m too pissed about what is going my country right now to care.

Jetrell Fo said:

In the Trump administration, they call it alternative facts

Everyone else calls it bull****

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Actually, I’m pretty sure Bannon is Palps and Trump is Anakin.

No, Trump is most definitely Palps.

No, Bannon is the one pulling the strings and using Trump.

I don’t think anyone pulls Trump’s strings but Trump.

Also there was always a little good in Anakin, the emperor was never able to drive it out of him completely. Do you see any good in Trump?

All this signing of executive orders reminds me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqSB4DFZqoM

TV’s Frink said:

_ender has been very rational about Trump from the beginning, IIRC.

Yes, I believe that is so.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Actually, I’m pretty sure Bannon is Palps and Trump is Anakin.

No, Trump is most definitely Palps.

No, Bannon is the one pulling the strings and using Trump.

I don’t think anyone pulls Trump’s strings but Trump.

SilverWook said:

Not sure I even want to know who Jar Jar is. 😉

TV’s Frink said:

Actually, I’m pretty sure Bannon is Palps and Trump is Anakin.

No, Trump is most definitely Palps.

darth_ender said:

Trump is exactly the kind of disaster the Democrats need to win big in future years. Conservatism will go very out of fashion in the next four years. This is why I would have rather had Hillary win, no matter her broken moral compass or my disagreement with her political views. I see a midterm election transition in both houses back to the Democrats, a loss of the presidency to the Democrats in four years, and a huge slide to the Left in the nation’s policies over the next several years. How can rank and file Republicans stand for this man, who clearly is not a conservative, whose bigotry stands exactly in contrast to freedom, both in the policies he is initiating and in the trends he is setting.

Executive orders were never written into the Constitution but were instead inferred by the president’s executive function and the necessity of clarifying that which is not specified by Congressional legislation. I feel it should be used sparingly and is generally overstepping those limits defined by the Constitution. I was a critic of Obama using executive orders in the manner he did, which is clearly a very dictatorial act. But Trump has put Obama to shame in such a short time. His authoritarian leadership is completely out of bounds, and I cannot sanction it, even when I agree with the policy change.

Let me put it this way: virtually everyone who knows me on this site knows that I am very opposed to elective abortions in most cases. I abhor them. They represent a severe dysfunction of our society’s morals, in my opinion. It breaks my heart to know that so many children are sent to premature deaths simply for being unwanted. And if Trump were to write an executive order that aligned abortion laws exactly with my perspective, I would condemn him for it. Beyond the good of those lives that would be spared would be the wellbeing of all Americans. Redefining a president’s authority in this way is extremely dangerous to the most powerful democracy in the world, and endangers everyone’s liberties and lives. I don’t think I’m being hyperbolic when I say that even if Trump does no serious harm in the long-term now, the precedents he is setting, if not checked, will allow for further violations by future administrations that could completely destabilize our precious nation. I pray that the judicial branch will show they have some gonads and trump Trump, and/or the Republicans will show some spine and help impeach the loser.

Donald Trump, regardless of your affiliation or your agreement with those things he aspires to accomplish, is a disaster for our nation and for the Conservative cause, and I will never support the man. At best, he will destroy the perception of Conservatism and marginalize the causes I believe in. At worst, he will have grown the power of the executive branch to dangerous levels and alter the nature of the U.S. presidency for years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw8etotz3TI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxAKFlpdcfc

For once some sanity from someone on the right.

doubleofive said:

I wonder if the rumored anti-LGBT executive order will drop Friday afternoon so people can spend the weekend protesting again. It’s almost like they don’t want people to miss work.

Just what is this anti-LGBT executive order? What would it do?

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TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

And by the way, if you don’t think this guy deserves a punch in the face then there’s something wrong with you.

“Deserves” is a bit different than whether or not it is legal.

Please stop saying this, everyone gets it. There is no one here who has tried to claim it is legal.

sorry.

DominicCobb said:

Mala has literally no idea what he’s talking about so I wouldn’t worry about him.

That seems to be a trend with Trump supporters.