Warbler

dahmage said:

If I needed bread to eat, I would thank the one that gave me bread, and curse the one that offered prayer instead.

What is to stop someone from giving bread AND offering prayer.

Praying is great, but it was never meant as a replacement for doing things (except judgement, I know we are supposed to leave that to God).

I never called it a replacement. for doing things. However for us religious folks, prayer is not doing nothing.

moviefreakedmind said:

The reason it’s so insulting is that the “thoughts and prayers” person is essentially saying that they’re opposed to actually doing anything that would’ve prevented this shooting in the first place,

In some cases, yes. But there are those that are not opposed to actually doing something that would’ve prevented this shooting whom also offer thoughts and prayers.

moviefreakedmind said:

Anyone that blames anything other than access to guns and offers “thoughts and prayers” needs to go fuck themselves.

What about those that are pro gun control and not only offer “thoughts and prayers”, but actually do pray for the victims?

Just heard about that. I don’t know what to say that hasn’t already been said about these things.

Neil Simon has died.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/neil-simon-broadways-master-comedy-dies-91-154646884.html

DuracellEnergizer said:

I had a bus driver who would slam on the brakes if the kids were a little too rowdy. I got whiplash once from that.

If that happened nowadays, your parents would have sued and bus driver would have been fired.

That is a good question. Since even I don’t know, I guess I shall cease and desist now. My apologies

typo corrected.

oojason said:

The pay is shite mate. We tried to monetize the PMs that are sent to us by uploading the content to pornhub - turns out we’re now in debt - lots and lots of debt.

Make PMs great again, people.

^ apologies if PMs have brought on any of the above symptoms in you.

 

You wouldn’t be having a pop or having a dig at me, would you?

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/fifth-grade-student-north-carolina-disciplined-calling-teacher-maam-200222136.html

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/fill-in-the-blank-Just-Died/id/14534/page/77#1236436

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/fill-in-the-blank-Just-Died/id/14534/page/77#1236436

Senator McCain has died.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/aide-says-senator-war-hero-gop-presidential-candidate-002711995.html

That would involve making public something said in private. I am not going to do that. I got in trouble for doing so before and therefor what I have said in here is as far as I’m willing to go in that direction.

Warbler said:

Then one of you knows something you shouldn’t be able to know.

Anchorhead said:

FFS, Warb. None of us can read other private topics.

Then one of you knows something you shouldn’t be able to know.

oojason said:

I can’t read private topics which I am not invited to. I don’t believe the other mods can either.

Everyone, I am not going to into to detail here, but I have reason to believe that this may not be so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bef_s1Bhn7o

I would like to know if the Mods and Jay can read private topics they are Not invited to.

The following topics have been merged into this one:

Warbler said on 28-Aug-2018, 8:08 AM:

I wish to apologize for the accusation that Jay and the mods were lying when they said they couldn’t read pm threads they weren’t invited to. I also hereby retract the accusation. I thought I had good reason to believe they could. But in thinking it over, I no longer think that. They say they can’t read pm threads they aren’t invited to and I believe them. I admit my judgement was clouded when I created the thread where I made the accusation. I apologize for the hurt and offense my accusation has caused. I want it to be clear that I am making this retraction and apology of my own free will and have not been asked, ordered, coerced, threatened or otherwise talked into doing this by Jay or the mods. I am doing this here in public and not pm because I made the accusation in public and thought it should be retracted and apologized for in public. I would have done this in the original thread but it is locked(which is ok with me as I never should have made it in the first place). Jay and the mods are also free to lock this thread as well, I didn’t really create it to have a discussion.

pleasehello said:

dahmage said:

This isn’t the worst thread title in the world.

One of the rules of this thread is that you can’t criticize the title of the thread.

I didn’t say you can’t criticize the title of this thread.

screams in the void said:

wow , I go away for a day and come back to this . I said it several times and I will say it again , this is a place to stand up for those who have been harassed , not to debate whether or not they have been harassed . and I have repeatedly stated , as have the mods , that if you want to state your opposition , then feel free to start your own thread

in other words, a safe place.

Then I see disparaging remarks about this being a " safe space "

Because you basically wish to silence in that thread any post on the subject that you wish to disagree with. You said it yourself, we can’t even debate whether or not someone was harassment.

,I can’t see these behaviors as anything but harassment

That is nonsense and nowhere near harassment.

and it seems like some people are reinforcing the case that the issue indeed exists . If this is not toxicity , then I don’t know what is .

It is called people having a different opinion than you. Apparently you think that any post critical of the current Star Wars movies and actors, any post in opposition to how you have limited discussion in your thread, any post critical of anything said by you and other “anti toxic”(for want of better wording) is harassment/toxic. That is silly and ridiculous. I for one have had enough of it.

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Thread-where-we-can-debate-things-said-in-the-Taking-a-stand-against-toxic-fandom-and-other-Thread/id/62308

This thread is for:

. debating things brought up in the “Taking a stand against toxic fandom (and other )” Thread
. criticism of things brought up in that thread
. discussion on that topic that are not allowed in that thread.

What this thread is not for is:

. People acting like a-holes
. harassment, defense of harassment of the like that happened to KMT (but you can debate whether someone was harassed)
. racism, sexism and other bigotry (and using racial, ethnic and other such slurs)
. name calling and general incivility

Remember that even though the rules of that particular thread do not apply here, the rules of the forum still do. I want civility strictly enforced here.

Additionally there have been multiple times I have felt like saying something in reply to something posted here, but have not felt that I would be allowed to do so due to the tone set by the OP. (and I don’t mean acting like an asshat or a racist)

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

chyron8472 said:

pleasehello said:

chyron8472 said:

luckydube56 said:

So wait…I was right the first time? This is a safe space thread?

No. Hush.

This is a thread where we discuss toxicity in the Star Wars fanbase, fanbases in general, and by extension society in general. What is wrong with that?

“Safe space” indeed. -.-

I would classify this as a safe-space thread that doesn’t really encourage discussion. We’re really only allowed to discuss “toxicity” as narrowly defined by the original poster, which is fine if that’s what he wants, but makes the thread pretty limited in scope.

OP: “if you are of a mind to take a stand and stick up for the aforementioned people making the movies and the people that like them that ARE being harrassed, then this is the place for it.”

I don’t think there’s anything inherently wrong with “safe spaces”, but let’s call a spade a spade, shall we?

I think the term “safe space” in this sense is rather derogatory.

Suffice it to say, complaining about this thread being a “safe space” feels to me like a complaint about not being given license to be an asshat.

screams in the void said:

I understand that some people genuinely do not like the direction of the new films,or the decisions of those making them , and have some ligitimate criticisms,but this is not the place to heir those concerns , you probably SHOULD start your own topic to express your views

Sounds like the the original poster didn’t want legit criticism here either. So it is not just about not being given license to be an asshat.

Now, if the OP doesn’t want legit criticism here. Fine. But I agree lets call a spade a spade. This is a safe space.

In general I’ll admit that I don’t see the point of this thread. But you’re completely misrepresenting what he said.

How am I misrepresenting what he said? He says plainly that this is not the place for legitimate criticism.

He doesn’t want this thread to be about criticizing the new films. Which is 100% fair on two accounts - firstly, every other thread on this site already has those discussions, and secondly, whatever you think of the new films there is no excuse whatsoever for harassment (which, of course, is what the thread is actually about). Criticizing the films wouldn’t be “invading the safe space” or whatever. It’d simply be irrelevant and off topic.

I agree there is no excuse for harassment. But harassment and legit criticism are two different things and neither are allowed in this thread. Lets face it: In some regard, this is a safe place.