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Warbler

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Post
#1109569
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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CatBus said:

Asset forfeiture laws can be pretty heinous. Not only are they “guilty until proven innocent”, they are also frequently “guilty even after being proven innocent”. i.e. you don’t necessarily get your stuff back just because you don’t get convicted. Or even charged.

agree. My point is that the cop was just doing what he was told to do. If he is told to crack down on illegal street vendors and ticket them and seize their profits, but doesn’t do it the cop could get in trouble with his bosses.

In any case, it would be real easy for this vendor not to have this problem: go get the proper papers to operate a hot dog stand.

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#1109565
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

The cop didn’t rob him. He seized illegal profits.

Was that money illegally obtained? All of it? Rhetorical question, don’t answer. Let’s say “sure, he made that money committing the heinous crime of selling hot dogs,” what about everyone else who’s been stopped and had their money taken? An officer can take their money if they even suspect it was gotten illegally. The only way to get that money back is to prove in court that it was actually obtained legally. Is that not guilty until proven innocent?

If you wish to change the forfeiture laws, I would have no problem with that.

I have a feeling that if this guy had been white and spoke English, no one would make a big deal about him getting ticked and his profits seized.

Funny, I have a feeling that if he was white and spoke English, he’d have had a much easier time.

Maybe, but if he didn’t have an easier time of it, no one would care.

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#1109531
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

The cop didn’t rob him. He seized illegal profits. You don’t arrest for all offenses, sometime you write a ticket. You don’t want that to happen to you? Obey the law and don’t operate without the proper papers. Btw, don’t blame the cop, he was just doing what he was instructed to do. If you watch the vid, it says the cops were told to crack down on illegal street vendors, and they were told to seize the profits.

I have a feeling that if this guy had been white and spoke English, no one would make a big deal about him getting ticked and his profits seized.

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#1109339
Topic
The Place to Go for Emotional Support
Time

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Haven’t seen my dad in a couple months. Not sure what his problem is.

Go see him.

The only guarantee that I’ll get to talk to him alone is if he comes to see me. For a multitude of reasons, reasons that are genuinely important to me, that’s how it has to be.

Well, I don’t know your reasons, so I will leave it alone.

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#1109204
Topic
The New and Improved New Thread Thread
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Warbler said:

I wanted to ask if anyone else was watching Ken Burns new mini series on Vietnam, and what people thought of it. But I wasn’t sure where to put it.

Do you think this is worthy of a new thread? If not, where do you suggest I ask questions about the new mini series?

reposting this here, in order to be non-partisan in the dispute between the two conflicting threads.