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#256923
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Where do I go from here as a SW fan?
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Originally posted by: JediRandy

Sure, have a POV, it doesn't mean anything , though.


Exactly. Although I would say: Having a POV doesn´t neccessarily mean anything though.


The kicker is he actually listened to this "huge" fanboy "outcry" and released the thing on DVD but, in true SW fan fashion, it wasnt' good enough so the bitching continued.


Well, what did you suppose? For a bad product, you deserve to be criticized. The same rules for every film DVD release apply here, too, even for Star Wars.

Besides, again, this release was clearly intended to reduce the amount of SE discs left over, the OOT being a simple marketing gag. Didn´t you ask yourself why this release is limited? Because they want to CLEAR the inventories.


He could come over and install a digital theater in the fans living rooms for their state-of-the-art DVD to play on and they'd still complain.


Nah, that would be too much for $19.99, don´t you think. A standard treatment, like for instance my Flash Gordon DVD, which kick´s the OOT´s ass in terms of picture quality, would have satisfied me.

Luckily, I´m also a huge Blade Runner fan.
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#256920
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Where do I go from here as a SW fan?
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
I don't deny the business side of Lucas, I just think that his idea of good business is to make the best product he can.

I realise the non Anamorphic release isn't the best he could have done. To him the SE version was the best he could do.

Then why did he put the OOT in it in the first place, from this point of view? Inferior films in shoddy quality. What about his "artistic vision"(tm) ?


Obviousy not everyone thinks the new changes were for the better, and legitimately prefer the original verisons. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, and I do hope that all SW fans can enjoy as much or as little of the saga as they want to, in the format they prefer.

I´m glad you approve our taste.


I just also understand where Lucas is coming from.

I don't think it's about disrespecting the people who don't agree with him as much as he is respecting his own vision for it with a determined passion.


Yeah, he is respecting his own vision so much, like changing the movies over and over again ine ach new release, always claiming that these have ALWAYS been his visions.

Honestly, you don´t believe this crap yourself, do you?


Nobody could talk him out of making SW in the first place, and a lot of people thought he was crazy to do it in the first place. Why would he suddenly come to the conclusion that his detractors are right now? I think it is a bit selfish to not give a crap about the people who prefer the originals, but I honesty don't see many of those people giving a crap about what he wants either.

You are right. With one small little mistake: Star Wars is no art. It´s a franchise, a product. A franchise is supposed to make money. And it only makes money, if it pleases the customers, i.e. the price is right according to the product´s value. Everything else is wishful thinking.

You said it yourself, GL won´t be pissing money away for a non-profitable OOT restauration. So i won´t be pissing away my money for him. Simple.


I know some of you have no problem with his changes as long as the original is provided along side of it, but by and large there is a lot of crap being flung in Lucas general direction over all of this.

While I can relate to the hard feelings over his suppression of the O-OT and now his lackluster presentation of the O-OT, I think that there is a lot of disrespect given to him beyond that, putting down his artistic vision to the point where you might get the idea that SW was great despite Lucas.

Well, if such a lot of disrespect is given to his artistic vision, doesn´t it occur to you that perhaps he might have screwed up the last few years, artistically? (Not monetary, all prequel Star Wars films did very well at the boxoffice). Why are these issues like "Han shoots first!!" so popular? Is everyone an ignorant bastard, who is incapable of seeing Lucas "artistic vision" behind it?


I'm not pointing fingers here, but surely you have to admit there have been a lot of insults sent his way.


Well, so what? What is YOUR concern about this? This guy is a big boy, with loads of money and who doesn´t care about his fanbase. You certainly don´t have to jump for him into the bushes, defending him from everyone who is so mean to him to put him VERBALLY down.


The worst he did was not produce the versions everyone wanted to have on DVD.


The worst thing he did was destroying the original negative of the original Star Wars films. For every Star Wars fan, this should be unforgivable.


You don't see him putting down all the ways we might have done it differently.


He doesn´t need to, since he is in the position to get his way, no matter what everyone else thinks.


He doesn't say that the people who disagree with him are not artistically competant.


Again, he doesn´t need to.


The way I see it, he is stubborn about his vision, but gracious about the diversity of opinions out there.


Yes, of course we can all be so thankful that he so "gracious" about the diversity of opinions.

Sorry, this is almost like hearing someone talking, who is not a fan but a member of a cult.
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#256913
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Where do I go from here as a SW fan?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/256913/action/topic#256913
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Originally posted by: JediRandy
Originally posted by: Vigo
Originally posted by: JediRandy
He did give the OT the respect it deserves.... he finished it the way he wanted to.

Well, everyone does what everyone wants. This alone however, makes no statement about the motivation behind the "will". And no, you give no respect to something by changing it into something different.

Oh, I misread you, you said "he gave the OT the respect it DESERVES" That of course, leaves some room for interpretation.


If you don't like it, tough titties.... it isn't yours.


You are right. The 2004SE DVD´s aren´t mine. And for getting hard nipples, I need something stronger.


It deserves whatever the artist intends for it....


...from the artist POV. Luckily, we are all entitled to have our own POV´s.


everyone else's interpretation/whishes are completely inconsequential.


Apparently not. I really doubt the OOT would have come out if not for the fan preservationists, and their copies being sold for money on Ebay. Suddenly, this can have huge impacts on "artistic visions" (tm)
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#256909
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Where do I go from here as a SW fan?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/256909/action/topic#256909
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Originally posted by: JediRandy
He did give the OT the respect it deserves.... he finished it the way he wanted to.

Well, everyone does what everyone wants. This alone however, makes no statement about the motivation behind the "will". And no, you give no respect to something by changing it into something different.

Oh, I misread you, you said "he gave the OT the respect it DESERVES" That of course, leaves some room for interpretation.


If you don't like it, tough titties.... it isn't yours.


You are right. The 2004SE DVD´s aren´t mine. And for getting hard nipples, I need something stronger.
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#256901
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Where do I go from here as a SW fan?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/256901/action/topic#256901
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
I just meant from his point of view.

You have to understand that Lucas is spending quite a bit of money already "restoring" the classic trilogy. It's just to him, it's far more important to make it more the way he wanted it than to preserve how it was originally. To him, he's trying to ensure that Star Wars will last long after he is gone, and last as a truer representation of what he wanted it to be.

Which seems to change every release now. I wonder what further additions he will slap on the original trilogy for the 3D release...

This whole "I AM AN ARTIST, THIS IS MY VISION!" crap is just a clever marketing ploy. Nothing more. He keeps changing the movies and inventing new excuses for the changes until the franchise (or he himself) is deader than dead.


For him to go back and restore the versions of the films he felt weren't finished in the first place is counter productive to his own personal artistic goals.


His artistic goals are monetary goals.


I think part of the reason he didn't release the O-OT on DVD at all is because he probably felt that the laserdisc Master just wouldn't be up to today's standards. I think that's why it was like pulling teeth for Jim Ward to finally convince him to okay the September solution.


This is what GL meant by how inventive and creative Star Wars fans are: they keep inventing new excuses to back up his arse.


If he were to go back and restore a print of the O-OT, and bring it up to today's standards, it would be for the benefit of the people who actually want those cuts, not Lucas. Sure he stands to make money from it, but only if there is enough interest to off set the cost of the restoration in the first place.


Now you change semantics. Most fans would have done pretty well with a stadard transfer from a good 35mm print, which would have easily surpassed a 13 year old video transfer. We were never talking about a restauration which is something completely different.


That's why I see this September release as a way to show Lucas that the original versions -do- matter to a substantial enough group of people to make the restoration effort finacially self sustaining.


I thought he is an artists and does not care about our opinions, let alone our money, because they are contrary to his "ARTISTIC VISION"(tm)...


I agree with your assessment of THX. Lucas certainly knows the consumer dynamic like the back of his hand.

For me in the end, I hold myself responsible for any of my purchases. If I choose to be double dipped, then I choose to be double dipped.


Fair enough.
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#256898
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Where do I go from here as a SW fan?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/256898/action/topic#256898
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
I don't see why he should feel guilty for having his own opinion about how his own movies should be.

Fair enough. As I don´t feel guilty for having my opinion about which version of Star Wars is the original and preferrable one.


I don't see why he should feel motivated to conform to other people's ideas for what Star Wars should be, even if they happened to like what he did originally.


PErhaps out of sheer repect for his fanbase and the movies who made him a fortune? But then again, I forgot that he is primarily a business man. In order to sell the SE´s in 1997, he had to claim that these are now his definitive versions. He already ridiculed this statement in 2004 and further when he decided to make further alterations. And it will continue.


He says he's sorry about that, but he has his own opinion about how they should be.


Therefore, this "I´m sorry, BUT" is nothing but an empty phrase.


You make it out like the fanbase is all of the same opinion. Everyone I have ever talked to is different, and pleasing "the fans" is just not possible.


Yeah, like those Blade Runner fans, which will get next year on DVD AND HD-DVD a special edition set, containing:

1) The original 1982 cinema cut, which hast been available on video for almost TWO decades
2) The 1992 Director´s cut
3) The new Final Cut, which will be Ridley Scott´s definitive version.

Or like those ET fans, who can have BOTH the original and 20th anniversary edition IN THE SAME QUALITY on DVD.

Yes, it´s so hard to please the fans. But then again, Blade Runner was such a financial succesful movie contrary to the Star Wars franchise....


Not everyone in the fan base thinks that Lucas is taking things in the wrong direction.


This is right. Not everyone thinks like that.


The only thing Lucas can really count on as a tangible direction is his own vision for these films.


Oh no, not this "BUT HE IS AN ARTIST" crap. His Vision is changing from minute to minute, pointing in the direction of $,€ and whatever bills.


I think that if he were to keep the originals in standard quality along side the new editions, that would make the most people happy.


Yep, but this is not going to happen.
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#256894
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Where do I go from here as a SW fan?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/256894/action/topic#256894
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
I agree there is a damned if you buy damned if you don't mentality about the idea that this latest release could lead to a better version of the O-OT.

I mean on the one hand I realize a lot of people want to hold off buying it to voice their opinion that they want better quality, but if nobody buys this then Lucas can sit back and say: See nobody wanted it.

Of course nobody wants a shitty release of their favourite films.

Again, I say that the OOT release was just a marketing gag to sell the unsold SE discs, not to test market the demand for it. An indication for this is that they were really surprised by the negative uproar caused by the press release that they were not anamorphic. They simply did not expect people to care about this aspect of the release.


I think that if I were in that position I would just pick up the September release anyway.

Worse case scenario, he doesn't make a better version available, but at least you will have that.

Best case scenario, Lucas has a huge change of heart and decides to sink more money and effort into restoring the O-OT.

I think that would be worth being double dipped.


This is not the way how to treat your fanbase. This is the way companies are playing with customers. And exactly this is the point of realization, where I personally don´t give shit about GL anymore. This is the point, where I don´t understand people anymore jumping into the bushes and defending this rich guy. I could only understand this way of thinking from people, who are finacially dependant on him (Lucasfilm employees).

Watch THX-1138. It´s almost a self-fulfilling parody. BUY MORE, AND BE HAPPY!


I just think the chances of a boycott of this release leading to Lucas saying, oh that's just because I didn't make a great transfer, I'll get on that right away is far less than him looking at gang buster sales of the September release and saying: Maybe this would be worth more of my time and money.

I don't deny he is a business man, and if there is money to be made, he will likely do that. I don't see him donating money to something that is just pissing it away with no return.


Do you think that a OOT restauration would be like pissing money away? Treating the films which made you a fortune with respect? Interesting choice of words.
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#256890
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Where do I go from here as a SW fan?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/256890/action/topic#256890
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Originally posted by: JediRandy
Originally posted by: Vigo
Originally posted by: JediRandy
Why is everything an "attack on the fans"? Seriously where do people come up with this stuff? Like he's twirling his handlebar mustace as he watches people walk out of Best Buy.


You mistunderstand me. There is a difference between "attack on the fans" and "caring shit about the fans". The former one implies emotional involvement, while the latter does not. I don´t sense any emotional involvement towards the fans regarding the 2004SE and the OOT release. Only marketing.


I guess this goes back to the percentage of fans that care about not having the OOT. Personally I don't think it was that high... if it was, then the last release would've sold better.


And this is the point, where everyone has to evaluate his position. Am I the better fan if I buy everything coming from him, regardless of the quality, playing according to his plan to make Star Wars an everlasting franchise, selling the same content over and over again, or do I choose not to buy this, and risk that the OOT will never be released again. However, whatever you choose, money is the dominant factor. Not love or care for the fanbase. Fair enough, if there wouldn´t be this annoying horde of fans, putting everything they like to imagine into his mouth. GL is our saviour - GL robbed my childhood, blablabla... He personally couldn´t care less about this shit.
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#256885
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Where do I go from here as a SW fan?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/256885/action/topic#256885
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Originally posted by: JediRandy
Why is everything an "attack on the fans"? Seriously where do people come up with this stuff? Like he's twirling his handlebar mustace as he watches people walk out of Best Buy.


You mistunderstand me. There is a difference between "attack on the fans" and "caring shit about the fans". The former one implies emotional involvement, while the latter does not. I don´t sense any emotional involvement towards the fans regarding the 2004SE and the OOT release. Only marketing. And this will continue with further releases.

You said it yourself: we OOT fans only seem to have a chance to get a decent version if we buy enough DVD´s. There you have it. His care is where the money lies.
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#256883
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Where do I go from here as a SW fan?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/256883/action/topic#256883
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
I understand the feelings involved here, but I really don't see Lucas as disrespecting anyone here.

Well, the lack of respect for his fans is clearly evident:

1) You can only get the OOT if you buy the SE edition along with it.
2) Putting a substandard Laserdisc transfer on DVD is ridiculous, especially concerning that HD formats are already knocking on the consumer´s door.
3) In PAL countries, this release is even more sub-standard because of the upscaled NTSC master.


It's not like he set out to rid the earth of the original version. He says that when he went to restore SW for the 20th anneversary, the negatives and prints had deteriorated far more than they were expecting them to. If he didn't restore the films when he did, we wouldn't even have the SE versions today.

He chose to update the films to make them more like he was hoping they had turned out, and in the process, he permanantly altered the negative. Now the only negative he has is the special edition.

The creation of the SE was clearly a project to test market whether the cgi techniques of these days could be successfully implemented to create the prequel trilogy. Will the people actually buy into a cgi generated Jabba, wobbling along Harrison Ford ?


I am not too sure about the details of all those other sets you mention that you feel get far better treatment, but I bet they started from a fairly in tact negative. I don't think they spent nearly as much to make new anamorphic transfers as Lucas did to create the SE version. I know it's the SE, and some of you see that as an entirely different set of films (for valid reason), but it's not Like Lucas was just pissing on us. He reinvested a ton of time and money to "maintain" SW for the next generation.

In film restaraution terms, he destroyed Star Wars. Everything which is left of the original films is the 1997 SE master. Maintaining would have meant to preserve the originals first, and make the SE something which it was supposed to be: a SPECIAL edition.

And btw, there are movies much older and in much worse condition than Star Wars, which have been brought back successfully into the cinema and home video market. Like Hitchcocks Vertigo.


Now for him to make an anamorphic transfer of the O-OT, he would have to clean up a PRINT, not a negative, and not only that, all the prints that exist today have serious issues that would have to be meticulously straingtended out, just to get back to the original picture quality.


You just described the standard procedure which every older film released on DVD has to cope with. Congratulations!

With todays technology, you can easily take a 35mm release print and restaurate it to the point that it will look good on DVD. Especially considering that Star Wars:

- had 70mm releases
- A New Hope was released in the UK in Technicolor dye copies

Digital colour correction and some basic scratch removal is now standard in every studio, very easy to surpass 1993 standards. 20th Century Fox has a great reputation to release old films on DVD in very good quality. My original Alien DVD from 1999 still looks great, and vastly superior to this stinking mess. They most probably have good Star Wars prints in their vaults.


From what I understand, that's possible, but it won't be cheap.


Cheap is nothing. Well, except the way Lucasfilm went in the end, and slap old Laserdisc transfers on DVD. They look much worse than the new THX-1138 DVD transfer. Now this is a highly succesful movie which deserved this premium restauration, right? (Apart from the fact that he screwed it up, too with cgi effects).


As far as "respect" for us, I think he shows the people who don't like his new stuff a whole lot more respect than he gets in return.


So you think he will make a financial loss on those DVD´s? Because in the end, that´s everything that matters. Sorry, but do you really think he actually cares about what you or anyone else here says?


He always talks about how the fans who disagree with his artistic taste know how to think out of the box, and are very creative in their own right. He has even apologised for not making the original versions available. He didn't rectify it, but he did say he was sorry, even if he still wanted to do things his way.


Sources for these claims?


Now we have this September release, which may not be the treatement we were all hoping for, but it's a step in the right direction I think.


This release was nothing but a wasted opportunity. I do not think that this opportunity will come again. Because on HD formats, it will take much more effort to make them look good.
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#256584
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Where do I go from here as a SW fan?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/256584/action/topic#256584
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Originally posted by: JediRandy
Where does the sense of entitlement come from? The "he owes us", "we never asked for a SE".... he doesn't owe you nor does he need your permission. And before you say "I bought tickets, DVD's, plastic toys, lollipops, etc." Nobody was/is holding a gun to your head. Stop buying and see how many DVD releases there are.


And, although I absolutely detest the new DVD release and the way the OOT is treated, I must give JediRandy right.

He owes us nothing. He is a business man. He calculates what is supposed to make the most profit, and depending on how much we like it, we are obliged to either buying or not buying it.

This is the way Lucasfilm works. Every emotional investment in this man and this company is completely wasted.
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#256552
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Where do I go from here as a SW fan?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/256552/action/topic#256552
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
Do you really think that's how they see us?

I think they were just trying to say that while the UOT release wasn't anamorphic, that it was still pretty good and not the worst transfer to ever hit DVD.

I know Lucas has a great deal of respect for us, saying that we tend to think out of the box and are very creative in our own right to disagree with his artistic taste.


There are only 2 reasons why the new DVD´s came out:

1. Clear the stock of unsold SE DVD´s
2. Dry up the bootleg Market for the fanmade OOT transfers

Everything else is just, let´s say, a very idealistic and romantic view. Lucasfilm is a company, and naturally acts as such, finding ways to maximize profits. This has hardly anything to do with love or respect for the fanbase.
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#256358
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Opinion Poll on Go-Mer-Tonic
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/256358/action/topic#256358
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Seriously, you guys giving Go-Mer too much attention. This whole thread is ridicilous. I personally had never any problems with him, although we both don´t share the same point of view. Sure, he seems to have too much spare time, and answers to pretty much everything which interests him on this board. But instead of being a troll, I percieved him as someone who is willing to learn, and adapt a different point of view, when it is well presented. Of course he is going to get nasty now in this thread. I would so too, if some idiot would open a poll to ask everyone if I should go. Such behaviour is very unhealthy for a community, and if I would be a moderator here, such threads would be closed or deleted immediately, and the author would get the yellow card from me. This is children´s behaviour.

Like the scene in "Monthy Python and the Holy Grail", when the village is hunting the witch and wanting her to be BURNED!!!!
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#256357
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A New Hope HDTV screenshots
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/256357/action/topic#256357
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
The difference from VHS to DVD was huge. You cant tell me that it wasn't.

As this step is. 6 times the resolution! That is EVEN MORE difference than the difference VHS<->DVD!


Although HD DVD may have a difference that some may be able to see, many can't.

How many?


And once again i say, if DVD picture quality to you is not good enough... then so be it, but your clearly not watching the movie for its content.


My friend.

Of course I am watching my favourite movies on DVD,a nd I really enjoy them. But as soon as there is a significant improvement in home theater technology, which HD is, of course, and this technology is becoming affordable, I will stop buying DVD´s, since I always want my favourite movies in the best quality possible. Is this so abnormal? FILM is a VISUAL medium. And 720x480 really looks poor compared to 1920x1080 or, even better, REAL 35mm FILM! Of course I am watching movies for their content. And this also includes the visual aspect.


Plus im not willing to give into another product after we know DVD is fine as it is.


This is the reason why I wouldnt buy into any HD format right now. The format war, and the typical technical problems 1st and 2nd generation equipment has.


The more people keep adobting to new technologies, the more these big corporations will keep forcing stuff down our throats.


No one is forcing you. You can boycott it. Meanwhile, the world goes on, and when there is a demand for significant better picture quality, there is a market. I, for sure, am going to get this new technology as soon as players are going below the $250 mark.

Standard television is very old now. The time has come to abadon it.
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#256356
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A New Hope HDTV screenshots
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/256356/action/topic#256356
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
Originally posted by: Vigo
Originally posted by: marioxb
I don't see all of the fuss over HD myself either. I can't tell any difference between DVD and HDDVD or HD TV or anything. I agree with JamesEightBitStar and I can't tell the difference either.

I suggest to clean your monitors then. Or getting some glasses. Tsss, can´t see the difference between 720x480 and 1920x1080 resolution.... (6 times the resolution!!!)

I must say i agree that you can definatly see a difference. But if your telling me that this difference is worth a) buying new equipment to watch stuff in HD b) repurchasing all your DVDs in HD or c) just paying the prices for the equipment and DVDs alone, your out of your mind.

As long as the HD-DVD/BluRay format war is going on, i would never suggest someone to invest into HD too much. But the time is definately running out for our decades old television systems. Prices will fall soon, they always did.


I don't think the difference is all that great.


Well, you are looking at still images. In motion, it´s surely going to kick much more ass. Besides, considering that this is 30 year old material, it´s very impressive. Remember how the first DVD´s looked and how much the quality improved over the years. Same is going to happen with HDTV.


Then again i do think it all depends on what you base watching movies on. If your watching a movie simply for the picture then i think you need to re-evaluate your priorities. Me personally, i watch for content.


If you want content alone, you can read books (which is btw a good idea). I am a visual person, and as much as a revelation the DVD was for me 7 years ago (from the moment I was watching my first DVD, VHS was for me deader than dead), HD is going to be the next big step. Movies are there to be watched and I want them in the best quality possible, ESPECIALLY those movies which I like very much. I cherish the times when home cinema stops looking like video and starts looking like real film. HDTV is a big step towards this goal.


So you will never see me buying "XXX" on Blu Ray. However i will end up spluging on a "Schindler's List" laserdisc.


I won´t buy XXX on BluRay either, since I absolutely hate that movie and this whole generation of new Hollywood blockbuster movies. But you can surely expect that I´m going for Schindlers List on HD. And many more great movies


What i think is impressive on these new HD formats is the audio. But thats a whole other story..


Now this is something where my priority is lower. I want best picture.
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#255871
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A New Hope HDTV screenshots
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/255871/action/topic#255871
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Originally posted by: marioxb
I don't see all of the fuss over HD myself either. I can't tell any difference between DVD and HDDVD or HD TV or anything. I agree with JamesEightBitStar and I can't tell the difference either.


I suggest to clean your monitors then. Or getting some glasses. Tsss, can´t see the difference between 720x480 and 1920x1080 resolution.... (6 times the resolution!!!)

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#255682
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A New Hope HDTV screenshots
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/255682/action/topic#255682
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Originally posted by: JamesEightBitStar
Errr... maybe I'm blind or something, but I don't see a single darn thing that makes these screenshots look any better than the non-HD versions. Actually, I think a lot of these look just like the 2006 DVD.


Perhaps you should click on the picture to zoom them in. You most probably are not running a 1920 x-resolution.

Look at all those faces, man! You can see EVERY pore on them! Look how messed up Vaders mask is on the first picture! These are all details which CAN NOT be seen on the standard DVD!

Look here at C3PO´s costume!

C3PO

You can clearly see EVERY wrinkled cable hanging out of his metal body! These are ALL details missing on the DVD in meagre 720x480 resolution!

Or here:

Rebel

You can almost count of how much hair fibres his eyebrows are made of! All the small tiny wrinkles around his eyes. And the eyes themselves!

HDTV:
http://tiedostot.pilvikaupunki.net/ANH1080p/bscap0269b.png

Please do not post images wider than 800px
-Z

NTSC:
http://aptirrelevance.com/otscreenshots/images/resized/aofficial-r-036.jpg
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#255681
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A New Hope HDTV screenshots
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/255681/action/topic#255681
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Originally posted by: Mielr
Are there any captures of Luke? I'd appreciate it if someone could point them out to me. I was clicking the links randomly last nite, and I couldn't find any. I thought they were in chronological order, but apparently they're not.

The detail is amazing- but that shot of Han and Ben in the MF cockpit really show how crappy the skintones are due to the botched color-timing.

Damn shame these are the SEs. Oh well.


Luke with Chewie
Shot of the whole Party
Luke at the laser gun
Luke in X-Wing
Luke with Ben