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nickyd47 said:

If they really respected Lucas, they would’ve considered his ideas for the new films🤔

Exactly.

Either Pablo doesn’t know what he’s talking about, or Lucas made sure there was a stipulation in the Disney contracts that they weren’t allowed to alter the OT or the PT.

From a business perspective it makes sense that Disney would only really care about the creation of new media, and George was always careful about maintaining final cut on his films.

Really highlights what the problem with SEs and prequels is, too. George really didn’t change at all. I think this also shows that he stubbornly felt he was right all along. See how the trade talk pops back up in TPM’s crawl. Honestly surprised he didn’t make further changes in the SEs to return the film to its original version.

Still makes me wonder if the prequels couldn’t be redeemed if given to actually talented editors.

NOTE: I’m not talking about a mere fan edit, but editors being supplied with all shot material and even a budget to complete or undo special effects. Obviously you’re not going to be able to fix bad performances and bad casting, but I could see them being restructured into something approaching a competent film.

Hey, if you don’t like the special editions don’t buy 'em. No sense complaining. Free market and all.

Oh, wait…

The only one who doesn’t seem to know about the Force is Luke, which makes sense seeing as how he lived out in the middle of nowhere and was probably heavily sheltered by Owen and Beru.

Luke is apparently somewhat familiar with the Jedi,though. He doesn’t bat an eye when Ben says he was once a Jedi. It’s only when Ben mentions the Force that Luke expresses a lack of knowledge.

The Rebellion obviously still holds the Jedi in high regard and even uses the phrase “May the Force be with you”. Even Imperials like Motti don’t actually deny the existence of the Force.

Han is a Doubting Thomas, but I don’t see anything unreasonable about that even with the prequels in mind. As others have said, it’s a big galaxy and it’s unlikely he ever saw a Jedi in action.

Luke’s robo hand has the blaster damage from Jedi. Nice.

I’m pretty sure Lucas said somewhere that the pod race had its origins in an abandoned idea for the first film. Makes sense with Lucas’s love of racing.

Also, doubleofive is spot on with the subtle narrative going on with Luke’s piloting experience on Tatooine naturally transitioning into the trench run.

Kind of annoys me when people make fun of the exhaust port being a weak point when the whole idea is that a normal pilot, even using a computer, would never have made the shot. It wasn’t as glaring an oversight on the Empire’s part as some people try to make it out to be.

I don’t remember where I read it, but supposedly Lucas did set aside some of Jedi’s budget to “complete” the Jabba scene in Star Wars. He even initially asked the art department to design Jabba in such a way that he could be more easily composited into the scene. Obviously the idea was abandoned.

I’m willing to meet Lucas halfway on the Jabba thing. I do think he wanted an alien creature in that scene, but the idea was dropped by the time it came to actually shooting it.

I know people would be disappointed if Luke doesn’t pull out his lightsaber, but I would be perfectly happy to see him using only the force and that stick to whoop ass.

It’s closer to what I would expect of a true Jedi master and what we should have seen of Yoda in the prequels.

Just going by the actor’s age.

Don’t recall Lucas ever giving him an age, but Wookieepedia does put him at 24.

Still only a 5 year gap between the timeline and Guinness’s actual age.

Ewan was 27 when filming E1. There’s supposed to be 33 years between that and Star Wars, which would put Obi-Wan at 60.

Fun Fact: It was Kershner’s idea to have R2 on his tippy toes.

Not like I had any faith in this to begin with, but damn!

It’s pretty funny that Lucas saw Vader as a completely disposable villain and didn’t anticipate his massive popularity at all.

Also,the robe is on top of the chest armor.

Looked the chapter up online (http://www.wenovel.com/book/1500/44197.html) and there are some lines that could be relevant to TLJ.

‘You see,’ he said, still looking down at his bandages, ‘when one’s young, it seems very easy to distinguish between right and wrong, but as one gets older it becomes more difficult. At school it’s easy to pick out one’s own villains and heroes and one grows up wanting to be a hero and kill the villains.’

…

'For those two jobs I was awarded a Double O number in the Service. Felt pretty clever and got a reputation for being good and tough. A double O number in our Service means you’ve had to kill a chap in cold blood in the course of some job.
‘Now,’ he looked up again at Mathis, 'that’s all very fine. The hero kills two villains, but when the hero Le Chiffre starts to kill the villain Bond and the villain Bond knows he isn’t a villain at all, you see the other side of the medal. The villains and heroes get all mixed up.

…

History is moving pretty quickly these days and the heroes and villains keep on changing parts.

Could be hinting that morality in TLJ won’t be so black and white. Or I could be completely off-base and this has nothing to do with Casino Royale.

You can see print on the opposite side of the page. A book, perhaps?

EDIT: Hmm, quick google shows that Casino Royale has a chapter 20 titled The Nature of Evil.

Anyone here a Bond fan?

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

DominicCobb said:

Yes. And preferably written by someone who understands normal human interaction.

You mean excising a song from a movie because it was sung by your ex isn’t considered normal human interaction?

What’s this referring to?

Not trying to argue, but I’d like a better assurance than that. It’s a nightmare scenario, and I can totally see Lucas pushing it through. After all, Disney only really cares about being able to make new movies and Lucas was always careful about having control over his films.

Is it possible Lucas retained final cut on these films in the sellout to Disney?

Yep. And it’s safe to assume the star destroyer shot first.

I’ll be sticking with the radio dramas version of the preceding events.

Isn’t that story from Edwards a bad sign?

I mean, it seems to confirm that no one is working on a theatrical restoration.

I know it’s from the PT, but don’t forget the lion statues in Naboo Palace.

My problem with all Jedi turning into ghost is that Vader seems ignorant about the whole thing.

SilverWook said:

Interesting that the new droid’s chest piece looks like Dengar’s chest armor.

Few pages late, but I just wanted to point out that Dengar’s armour is repainted Snowtrooper armour, so it makes sense.