This is awesome, I’d love to help out via donations or whatever it would take so I could see the finished product! 😄
Just PM me and I can send you the PayPal to donate to!
I would love to donate to get access to this! I have been waiting years for anything like this to come along. Please, let me know how I can get involved. Thanks!
Just PM me and I can send you the PayPal to donate to!
Hey Venny, you might want to check this out, some group called Double ‘O’ Productions has done the CC and audio fix plus a lot of subtle effects work to fix some continuity problems:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vAzeRnOUF4
Haven’t seen their version yet, but their work does seem impressive in the youtube video.
Personally not a fan of this. I never liked restorations doing continuity error changes to old films. Also the color correction leaves a lot to be desired and doesn’t look accurate to the LaserDisc/theatrical colors
I think there’s a 35mm scan out there somewhere? I’m not 100% sure tho.
Hey, I wanted to maybe start a possible Batman 89 project to take the 4K remaster and color correct the video and sync up the original LaserDisc audio. idk if anyone has done this yet as I’m not super in touch with fan restoration projects, but I have a pretty decent method for color correction and already have the LaserDisc audio ready to use!
Proof of Concept Screenshots:
Color Correction
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/767178964812169249/960887794966880276/unknown.png
4K Remaster:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/767178964812169249/960887795457601556/unknown.png
Not about the movie Venny, the seller. “zontar2000”. His notoriety for dishonesty precedes him. Buy from that guy at your peril.
Yeah, I know zontar is a bad person to buy from, but not everyone knows that so people still buy these prints from him at these insanely high prices despite them not being as good as he advertises because they are popular films and films projectionists want to buy. It’s unfortunate, but zontar is listing prints of movies people desire.
Sent my donation!
God, how that notorious asshole sold a shit print for $1.2K I will never understand.
It’s a superhero movie. And one of the most influential superhero movies at that so it selling for over 1K makes sense as die-hard Batman fans would probably shell out the cash to buy it
Interesting… how will it be presented for this project? Full image with rounded corners?
Probably cropped to 4:3 but the full-frame will be shown so with rounded corners
Are you suggesting it was something like an open matte? I am picturing the flashing lights on the periphery of the image during the start of “On the Edge,” and the left and right sides are further away.
EDIT: I’m not sure I understand what you mean when you say it’s taller and wider than 1.33:1. Unless it’s because of the rounded corners, assuming it’d be projected with those just cropped out.
Dude, the kids and I are gonna have a repeat movie night in the near future. Never thought I’d see this movie in its OAR.
So pretty much the 35mm frame has a lot more picture on all sides of the frame. The DVDs use a crop that cuts out more of the sides and some of the top and bottom to get the 1:33:1 aspect ratio. With this print you could theoretically make a 1:66:1 version which would have more frame on the left and right than the DVD, but less on the top and bottom, a 16:9 framing with even more on the left and right, or a slightly taller and wider 4:3 framing. It’s pretty great because it means the movie can be shown in the aspect ratio the directors intended away from the home video releases and it can be presented in 4:3 like the VHS and DVD release. So there are all kinds of cool release that can be made with this print
WOW! This is wonderful to hear, and I will look forward to the finished product. I’d love a peek at what’s here now, too.
One of my first questions was whether this is finally OAR. It must be since it’s a film print, but it looks super close to 1.33, perhaps it’s 1.67.Thank you for bringing this to us. Stoked!
No problem! I have been wanting to get this scanned for about a year now so finally seeing it happen is unreal. Also this print isn’t matted fir 1.33.1 it’s actually a wider and taller aspect ratio than that so you could do a 1.66.1 or 1.78.1 crop of the movie if you wanted!
Oh man, really? …only a few weeks after I nearly give myself carpal t from cleaning those 2309 frames in photoshop?! The universe is wacky and near cruel with this stuff sometimes! 😃
But seriously, that’s cool news. I’m too poor to donate though. And also, the time I put in on Octorox’s has me feeling I’ve paid the Brave Little Toaster fan release gods their due. 😃
Good luck with this! Hopefully donations come your way
Yeah, sorry to hear your work on your HD restoration might be going to waste now. Some things you might want to know is the scene where the PAL and NTSC DVDs have “ghosting” when the Lamp is dancing around is actually on this print as well and probably an error with an optical effect
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/767178964812169249/957008724755644476/unknown.png
After nearly 35 years of staying stuck in Disney’s vault, a true HD version of The Brave Little Toaster is here!
This movie was originally released in 1987 to a limited theatrical release making prints of this film very hard to come by! This is also German print so not only is the printing guaranteed to produce really sharp results, but unlike the later US DVD this is uncensored!
EDIT: This has already been fully funded and scanned. Currently not accepting donations for this project. Thanks for all the help from the forum!
UPDATE FOR DONORS:
Raw scans and new encodes will be made very soon! Sorry for the long wait, but there has been quite a long queue so expect raw scans and encodes to be ready in early August at the latest! I am also in contact with Jerry Rees the director of the original film and Brian McEntee who helped color time the original film to help work on restoration and general guidance. Can’t wait to give more updated soon! Anyone who has access to the Google Drive folder will receive the raw scans in the same folder when they are ready.
BIG UPDATE 8/24/22:
A full ProRes encode of the scan including Analog LaserDisc audio from Greg Z is ready for download for DONORS! File size is about 190 GB rendered at 4K and a lower bitrate (possibly Blu-Ray compatible encode) will also be uploaded within the next few days. If you want access DM me!
Special thanks to Quazza for rendering the raw image sequence as ProRes, and helping me encode the final video sync ProRes files. This project wouldn’t be possible without his help! And thank you to everyone who helped support this project through donations and contributing to the project in general. Seeing this movie scanned was such a pipedream and is now a reality. Although I suppose he would want to remain anonymous huge thanks to the owner of the print for lending it free of charge to be scanned. Without him I wouldn’t have even known this film had prints out in the wild in the first place and I wouldn’t have had such a wonderful opportunity preserving it.
The project is not over of course. I plan on doing a full on restoration of the film with possible director’s guidance and help from members of Kineko Video for a public release. I don’t plan on keeping this scan private and I believe it deserves to be seen by everyone. I do apologize to those that can’t watch this right now and I hope you get to see it soon! I am willing to answer any questions regarding the project and I have a Twitter account where I post constant updates, screenshots, and information about the scan and the film.
Do you plan on releasing your scan?
I don’t own the full movie, I just own some cut cells I bought off eBay. Like four frames of it.
OHHH ok
I’ve got that 35mm copy and will be posting screenshots from it, but for the time being-
I’ve scanned in the only cell from the movie I have- a frame of the CGI fields of humans, from when Morpheus is explaining to Neo what the Matrix is in the construct (timestamp 42:57)
I scanned it in at 4000dpi on my 35mm scanner (not a flatbed), to compare to this 35mm scan, and a IAMABLE 2160p release of the Blu-Ray:
My own 4000dpi scan:
The ‘latest’ 35mm scan:
The IAMABLE 2160p Blu-Ray release:
I’m no movie grader, hopefully how I processed it isn’t too off. The white fog on the left was consistently an issue to get right.
My cell seems to have a bit more top and bottom too.
Do you plan on releasing your scan?
No problem. Got the first one in 35MM…
It Is Open-Matte?
I personally don’t have a problem with the 4K but still prefer the colors of the old BD.
The 4K colors are really left to be desired IMO, but the restoration itself is pretty fantastic. I would personally replace the audio with the original theatrical mix tho
Only the first movie has a 35mm scan which is private to film forums. Spider-Man 2 and 3 have had prints listed on eBay quite a lot so maybe fan scans can be done at some point for those.
Since I saw No Way Home in theaters last year I noticed quite a few things Marvel/Sony has been changing with the film mid theatrical run like fixing CGI, changing how shots play out, additional color grading, and more.
SPOILERS AHEAD!:
Here are some screenshots of instances of color grading being changed between the theatrical version and the upcoming Blu-Ray and streaming versions:
Web-version/Blu-Ray on the left and the Theatrical on the right
https://slow.pics/c/cUAWdGZ4
Not to mention probably one of the most well-known instances of Sony changing CGI in the film was the Goblin alleyway scene where the CGI was unfinished and they decided to do a quick string of shots to hide it.
https://twitter.com/whomthefisthis/status/1480238775645220870?s=20
There are probably many other edits made that I don’t know about, but I would like to know what you guys think. I do find preserving the best possible quality of the original theatrical release interesting and it might be worth doing down the line.
i’m interested in how one restores a 16mm print.
I always wanted to try a single episode of Star Blazers to see if it was possible to do the show in HD.
Gumby ought to be interesting.
https://youtu.be/iNFgRVZBauo
Here are the results with color correction. Sadly it doesn’t have any many details as the DVD since the DVD uses a 35mm master, but it still looks quite nice.
I would love to donate to this. Unfortunately, I’m unable to right now.
Don’t worry. I’ll make a public 1080p release for people that can’t donate. Donors will just have access to the raw scans and uncorrected versions without any restorations as a thanks for helping.
Hey everyone I got another quick 16mm crowdfund!
It’s a 16mm TV print for The Gumby Show!
This show has only ever had DVD sets and what seems to be weirdly mixed audio so not only would this be interesting to see the show in higher quality, but with something closer to the original sound!
I am covering about 16 dollars of the cost on this but I need 2 more people to help split 10 dollars each way on the rest for scanning. [Donors get a full-frame 4K scan of the print]
Donors:
Me - 16 USD
Donor - 10 USD
Donor - 10 USD
(UDPATE: FULLY FUNDED!)
Pictures from the reel:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/925992195658502214/940663619752951828/s-l1600.png
Private message me if you are interested!
Recently I and a friend purchased 16mm prints for Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids from eBay interested to see how they would compare to the current DVDs. Finally, after about a year they have been scanned! 2 episodes were scanned first being labeled “Summer Camp” with the real episode title being “Fish Out of Water” and the other episode being called “Do Your Own Thing” with the real episode title being “Tomboy”.
Screenshot:
https://i.slow.pics/Wdq4YjXQ.png
While these have been scanned fundraising is needed in order to pay off the scanning costs. Currently, there are 4 people helping out privately with 10 dollar donations out of the 75 total it cost to scan. If you are interested in helping please DM me and I can give the details needed! Donors get raw/uncropped 4K scans of both episodes!
Donors so far:
5 = 50 USD
Needed:
3 donors 10 dollars each (Covering the remaining 35 dollars plus PayPal fees)
https://i.slow.pics/Yjl40KuG.png
https://i.slow.pics/nn6NDNce.png
I did a quick encode to clean up chroma artifacts and decimate to NTSC on the German DVD and synced it up with Hifi VHS audio from the 91 VHS release. I think I did a decent job. Of course, Stereo LaserDisc audio would be superior.Is the DVD surround sound not good?
I think it’s pretty mediocre. I just prefer the original theatrical stereo mix
Honestly give it a year or 2 I bet WB will release it on 4K.
