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#1502347
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The Brave Little Toaster (1987) 4K 35mm Film Scan! (WIP)
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chaoscharza said:

Venny said:

I’ve been getting a lot of PMs about people wanting access to the folder. If you didn’t already have access before from donating I’m not going to give access unless it’s someone working on the project directly. I will not be handing out downloads for many reasons so please don’t ask. If you have donated and can’t access the folder for some reason I will make sure to fix that, but please do not clutter my DMs with download requests if you haven’t contributed anything to the project

Personally, I DM’d because it was mentioned in your post from a week ago, but even then I noted I’d be able to wait until the public release.

That said, I might have misread your post. I found out about this when googling on a whim; wasn’t expecting to actually discover that someone was able to scan/restore a print!

Take your time, Venny. I can wait.

No worries I wasn’t talking about your in particular I had a lot of people PMing me. Just wanted to put a message out there for everyone to make sure people knew

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#1502257
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The Brave Little Toaster (1987) 4K 35mm Film Scan! (WIP)
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I’ve been getting a lot of PMs about people wanting access to the folder. If you didn’t already have access before from donating I’m not going to give access unless it’s someone working on the project directly. I will not be handing out downloads for many reasons so please don’t ask. If you have donated and can’t access the folder for some reason I will make sure to fix that, but please do not clutter my DMs with download requests if you haven’t contributed anything to the project

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#1501703
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The Brave Little Toaster (1987) 4K 35mm Film Scan! (WIP)
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m00nman said:

Venny said:

We wanted to limit how many people can download the raw ProRes file in order to make sure the Google Drive Transfer Quota doesn’t get capped out so for now it will be on a person by person basis so there isn’t too much traffic. I will be hosting the encode on my own Google Drive in order to help minimize traffic.

Not sure if this trick still works, but if they create a shortcut in their own drive, it generally considers it a new file and won’t contribute to the quota.

This trick does work the issue is the Drive when it hits a transfer quota you can’t download anything else from the Drive and there are a bunch of other scans that are being stored there. I can make mirrors for the encode just fine, but making mirrors for the ProRes will be very tricky so best to make it request only. Better that way since not many people will want the ProRes anyway other than people working on the project.

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#1501486
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The Brave Little Toaster (1987) 4K 35mm Film Scan! (WIP)
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PeteOfDawn said:

Venny said:

BIG UPDATE 8/24/22:

A full ProRes encode of the scan including Analog LaserDisc audio from Greg Z is ready for download for donors! File size is about 190 GB rendered at 4K and a lower bitrate (possibly Blu-Ray compatible encode) will also be uploaded within the next few days. If you want access DM me!

Special thanks to Quazza for rendering the raw image sequence as ProRes, and helping me encode the final video sync ProRes files. This project wouldn’t be possible without his help! And thank you to everyone who helped support this project through donations and contributing to the project in general. Seeing this movie scanned was such a pipedream and is now a reality. Although I suppose he would want to remain anonymous huge thanks to the owner of the print for lending it free of charge to be scanned. Without him I wouldn’t have even known this film had prints out in the wild in the first place and I wouldn’t have had such a wonderful opportunity preserving it.

The project is not over of course. I plan on doing a full on restoration of the film with possible director’s guidance and help from members of Kineko Video for a public release. I don’t plan on keeping this scan private and I believe it deserves to be seen by everyone. I do apologize to those that can’t watch this right now and I hope you get to see it soon! I am willing to answer any questions regarding the project and I have a Twitter account where I post constant updates, screenshots, and information about the scan and the film.

It looks like the new file as well as the previous sync were removed from the folder. Is there a reason as to why this was done?

We wanted to limit how many people can download the raw ProRes file in order to make sure the Google Drive Transfer Quota doesn’t get capped out so for now it will be on a person by person basis so there isn’t too much traffic. I will be hosting the encode on my own Google Drive in order to help minimize traffic.

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#1501425
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The Brave Little Toaster (1987) 4K 35mm Film Scan! (WIP)
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BIG UPDATE 8/24/22:

A full ProRes encode of the scan including Analog LaserDisc audio from Greg Z is ready for download for donors! File size is about 190 GB rendered at 4K and a lower bitrate (possibly Blu-Ray compatible encode) will also be uploaded within the next few days. If you want access DM me!

Special thanks to Quazza for rendering the raw image sequence as ProRes, and helping me encode the final video sync ProRes files. This project wouldn’t be possible without his help! And thank you to everyone who helped support this project through donations and contributing to the project in general. Seeing this movie scanned was such a pipedream and is now a reality. Although I suppose he would want to remain anonymous huge thanks to the owner of the print for lending it free of charge to be scanned. Without him I wouldn’t have even known this film had prints out in the wild in the first place and I wouldn’t have had such a wonderful opportunity preserving it.

The project is not over of course. I plan on doing a full on restoration of the film with possible director’s guidance and help from members of Kineko Video for a public release. I don’t plan on keeping this scan private and I believe it deserves to be seen by everyone. I do apologize to those that can’t watch this right now and I hope you get to see it soon! I am willing to answer any questions regarding the project and I have a Twitter account where I post constant updates, screenshots, and information about the scan and the film.

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#1498347
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The Brave Little Toaster (1987) 4K 35mm Film Scan! (WIP)
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TheBoogeyman1023 said:

What’s the plan for this when it’s finished? Is this going to be shared publicly or is this for donors only?

I plan to share it publicly. Hopefully as a YouTube upload with Kineko Video and 100% on Archive.org . As of now I’m only keeping proxies and raw scans private to donors because I wouldn’t want to release an unfinished project publicly. But once a finished restoration comes about I will release both the raw scan and restoration for archival. I wouldn’t want any of this projects work becoming lost and I want as many people possible to see it (and maybe even encourage Disney to release their own).

PS: I will also look into possibility of having the scans stored on a LTO Tape. I know someone who owns a LTO set up and 100% want this archived on something reliable and not just hard drives

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#1498213
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The Brave Little Toaster (1987) 4K 35mm Film Scan! (WIP)
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PeteOfDawn said:

Venny said:

Bridger12 said:

Venny said:

Bridger12 said:

Venny said:

Bridger12 said:

Venny said:

Bridger12 said:

Anything yet?

Should be ready before the end of the week. Like I said the download speeds for this are VERY slow so it takes time. Reel 4 is close to being done. Download speeds on their end are only 500 kb/s and the download has been ongoing since July 18th. It will be ready when it’s ready. In the mean time here is a color corrected frame from the raw scan to give a little preview of the colors:
https://i.slow.pics/WRJwIN5l.png

What happened to doing it with the director through Zoom?

He’s been busy. He (imo) offered a better alternative which is to just send cels scans and color charts which will help with getting some accurate color correction.

Are there really cel scans and color charts for EVERY shot/scene?

idk

Jerry told me this:

“I’m not too busy to do all Zoom meetings - just the ones that don’t fit my schedule. I do hope to find a good time that works for him and for me.”

Something else: How will you know which colors are the correct ones?

I was told animation cels should be a good guideline for color correction. In the mean time before the Zoom meeting (and keep in mind idk when that will be) I will go off any high quality cel scans I can find (Heritage Auction scans being the best sources I’ve seen so far for cel scans of the first film)

If it’s any help I recently found and purchased this pack of cels https://www.etsy.com/listing/1056720452/15x-genuine-35mm-clips-the-brave-little and currently there’s another pack available

I would advise against purchasing cut up film strips

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#1498187
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The Brave Little Toaster (1987) 4K 35mm Film Scan! (WIP)
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Bridger12 said:

Venny said:

Bridger12 said:

Venny said:

Bridger12 said:

Venny said:

Bridger12 said:

Anything yet?

Should be ready before the end of the week. Like I said the download speeds for this are VERY slow so it takes time. Reel 4 is close to being done. Download speeds on their end are only 500 kb/s and the download has been ongoing since July 18th. It will be ready when it’s ready. In the mean time here is a color corrected frame from the raw scan to give a little preview of the colors:
https://i.slow.pics/WRJwIN5l.png

What happened to doing it with the director through Zoom?

He’s been busy. He (imo) offered a better alternative which is to just send cels scans and color charts which will help with getting some accurate color correction.

Are there really cel scans and color charts for EVERY shot/scene?

idk

Jerry told me this:

“I’m not too busy to do all Zoom meetings - just the ones that don’t fit my schedule. I do hope to find a good time that works for him and for me.”

Something else: How will you know which colors are the correct ones?

I was told animation cels should be a good guideline for color correction. In the mean time before the Zoom meeting (and keep in mind idk when that will be) I will go off any high quality cel scans I can find (Heritage Auction scans being the best sources I’ve seen so far for cel scans of the first film)

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#1497969
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The Evil Dead (1983) 35MM Film Scan <em>DONATIONS NEEDED</em>
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The_Evil_Dead_1_Fan said:

You want to preserve THE ONLY 100% PURE and 100% PRISTINE EXISTING versions of The Evil Dead (1981) ???

There are The THX APPROVED and CERTIFIED Widescreen and Full-Frame DEFINITIVE versions included EXCLUSIVELY in The ULTIMATE Edition DVD.

THE ULTIMATE PRINT.
THE SUPREME TRANSFER.

You will NEVER get ANYTHING BETTER than that, because NOTHING BETTER EXISTS.

(stop your lies, goodbye, scammers)

You do realize that prints of Evil Dead BEFORE edits were done exist right? Also who said anyone was scamming? Stop acting like a crazy person

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#1497967
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The Brave Little Toaster (1987) 4K 35mm Film Scan! (WIP)
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Bridger12 said:

Venny said:

Bridger12 said:

Venny said:

Bridger12 said:

Anything yet?

Should be ready before the end of the week. Like I said the download speeds for this are VERY slow so it takes time. Reel 4 is close to being done. Download speeds on their end are only 500 kb/s and the download has been ongoing since July 18th. It will be ready when it’s ready. In the mean time here is a color corrected frame from the raw scan to give a little preview of the colors:
https://i.slow.pics/WRJwIN5l.png

What happened to doing it with the director through Zoom?

He’s been busy. He (imo) offered a better alternative which is to just send cels scans and color charts which will help with getting some accurate color correction.

Are there really cel scans and color charts for EVERY shot/scene?

idk

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#1497823
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The Brave Little Toaster (1987) 4K 35mm Film Scan! (WIP)
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Bridger12 said:

Venny said:

Bridger12 said:

Anything yet?

Should be ready before the end of the week. Like I said the download speeds for this are VERY slow so it takes time. Reel 4 is close to being done. Download speeds on their end are only 500 kb/s and the download has been ongoing since July 18th. It will be ready when it’s ready. In the mean time here is a color corrected frame from the raw scan to give a little preview of the colors:
https://i.slow.pics/WRJwIN5l.png

What happened to doing it with the director through Zoom?

He’s been busy. He (imo) offered a better alternative which is to just send cels scans and color charts which will help with getting some accurate color correction.

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#1497795
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The Brave Little Toaster (1987) 4K 35mm Film Scan! (WIP)
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Bridger12 said:

Anything yet?

Should be ready before the end of the week. Like I said the download speeds for this are VERY slow so it takes time. Reel 4 is close to being done. Download speeds on their end are only 500 kb/s and the download has been ongoing since July 18th. It will be ready when it’s ready. In the mean time here is a color corrected frame from the raw scan to give a little preview of the colors:
https://i.slow.pics/WRJwIN5l.png

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#1496645
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The Brave Little Toaster (1987) 4K 35mm Film Scan! (WIP)
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Bridger12 said:

Greg Z said:

Bridger12 said:

So, the track will likely end up being LPCM 2.0, or something like that?

Yes. Even if the audio turned out to be Dolby Surround encoded it would still be
captured as LPCM 2.0. The decoding to surround occurs during playback by the users’ receiver.
The digital audio on laserdisc is always 16 Bit 44.1 kHz LPCM. The analog audio can be
captured any way want. I will capture it at 24 Bit 96 kHz.
Now I’m just hoping that the laserdisc has the original theatrical soundtrack.

How will you know if it’s the original theatrical soundtrack, or not?

The VHS and LaserDisc use the same Dolby Stereo mix. The VHS has a theatrically accurate mix so I assume the LD would be the same

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#1496443
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The Brave Little Toaster (1987) 4K 35mm Film Scan! (WIP)
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Greg Z said:

Bridger12 said:

Greg Z said:

Octorox said:

Hal 9000 said:

LD audio is better than the DVD? Do you know something about their history? I could try my hand if the two need to be blended somehow, such as surround channels being more dynamic in the LD.

I believe the LD audio is actually stereo, so it doesn’t use the surround channels at all. However it’s supposedly the original theatrical audio mix, whereas the DVD mix was a new one done for the DVD release. The Laserdisc audio is also supposed to be nearly lossless whereas the DVD has a compressed AC3 mix. The best option would be to include both. I’d bite the bullet but:
1.) I already spent too much on this movie importing the PAL DVD
2.) I don’t have a laserdisc player, or any of the equipment I would need to properly capture the audio.

The laserdisc has Dolby Surround encoded audio. The stereo soundtrack can be decoded to surround by any
receiver or pre-amp with prologic II. You get 4 channels: right, left, center and mono rear. I haven’t
heard it personally but it would be lossless and most likely the original theatrical audio mix.

Edit: I just purchased a copy of the laserdisc from Ebay. I will be able to provide a digital and analog copy
of the audio for the project. I’ll also check it out through my receiver and see what it sounds like decoded
to surround.

I don’t see “Dolby Surround” on the laserdisc back cover. Odd.

I got my info from the LaserDisc Database site.

https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/03599/1117-AS/Brave-Little-Toaster-The

It says that both the digital and analog audio tracks are Dolby Surround encoded.
I should have taken a better look at the pictures of the back cover on Ebay. It doesn’t
say Dolby Surround anywhere on the cover, just stereo. I guess I’ll find out when the disc
arrives and I try decoding the stereo tracks.

The credits at the end of the film and LaserDisc mention Dolby Stereo so that is accurate to the films theatrical mix.

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#1496402
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The Brave Little Toaster (1987) 4K 35mm Film Scan! (WIP)
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Greg Z said:

Octorox said:

Hal 9000 said:

LD audio is better than the DVD? Do you know something about their history? I could try my hand if the two need to be blended somehow, such as surround channels being more dynamic in the LD.

I believe the LD audio is actually stereo, so it doesn’t use the surround channels at all. However it’s supposedly the original theatrical audio mix, whereas the DVD mix was a new one done for the DVD release. The Laserdisc audio is also supposed to be nearly lossless whereas the DVD has a compressed AC3 mix. The best option would be to include both. I’d bite the bullet but:
1.) I already spent too much on this movie importing the PAL DVD
2.) I don’t have a laserdisc player, or any of the equipment I would need to properly capture the audio.

The laserdisc has Dolby Surround encoded audio. The stereo soundtrack can be decoded to surround by any
receiver or pre-amp with prologic II. You get 4 channels: right, left, center and mono rear. I haven’t
heard it personally but it would be lossless and most likely the original theatrical audio mix.

Edit: I just purchased a copy of the laserdisc from Ebay. I will be able to provide a digital and analog copy
of the audio for the project. I’ll also check it out through my receiver and see what it sounds like decoded
to surround.

Absolute legend! Thank you so much!

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#1496153
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The Brave Little Toaster (1987) 4K 35mm Film Scan! (WIP)
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Octorox said:

Ideally, a lossless capture of the Laserdisc audio, but I haven’t been able to get my hands on it. I’m not sure if anyone has done a preservation. The 5.1 AC3 mix on the DVD is fine, and I’d recommend including it as well, but it barely takes advantage of the surround channels anyway.

Me neither it’s very expensive (in the 70 USD-100 range). I have up to 3 different people I could send a LD to for capture (one even having a Domesday setup) so if I ever get the LD release I will transfer it.

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#1490732
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The Brave Little Toaster (1987) 4K 35mm Film Scan! (WIP)
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UPDATE FOR DONORS:
Raw scans and new encodes will be made very soon! Sorry for the long wait, but there has been quite a long queue so expect raw scans and encodes to be ready in early July at the latest! I am also in contact with Jerry Rees the director of the original film and Brian McEntee who helped color time the original film to help work on restoration and general guidance. Can’t wait to give more updated soon! Anyone who has access to the Google Drive folder will receive the raw scans in the same folder when they are ready.