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#1119221
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Ranking the Star Wars films
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I don’t know how anyone could rate any of the PT movies above any of the other SW or “A SW Story” movies. They will forever remain at the bottom of my list irregardless of what any fanedit manages to salvage.

Though I guess if I were to include the OT SEs in the list separately from the theatrical OT / DSEs, I would put the SEs below the PT, so much do I hate what GL did to his original creations.

I will never again watch any version of the SEs, whereas I do still watch my definitive selection of PT edits.

.Val

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#1119217
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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DominicCobb said:

Those continuity issues are of the least concern when it comes to editing. I’ve never noticed them before and I still can’t see what they are (on my phone). Far more jarring would be something like the skiff pointing in one direction in one shot and another in another.

I would have to watch the scenes in question to get a better idea of it (and that is how a cut should be judged, not just by looking at stills), but at the end of the day no matter what you have to realize that if a professional editor flipped a shot there was a damn good reason for it, and an eagle eyed fan pointing out Carrie’s birthmark is in the wrong spot is not a good enough reason to flip it back.

Yeah I agree that I’ve never noticed these flip shots before so they obviously work well and I do wonder if they get noticed as continuity issues from over-analysing a movie frame by frame (or like many fan editors, have simply gone over the material too often to not notice such details) rather than as an edit was meant to be viewed in the context of how it is expected to be viewed (as a motion picture). I highly doubt any but a very few would ever notice such matters during the first or even first handful of viewings when your mind is focused on all the new information it is receiving rather than critically comparing such minor (at the time) details.

One does have to ask though, why then isn’t this 180 rule taken into consideration much more when actually filming the scenes? Is this not part of the directors job?

For anyone that doesn’t know what the 180 rule is (like me 5 minutes ago), below is the wiki explanation:

180-degree rule

In film making, the 180-degree rule is a basic guideline regarding the on-screen spatial relationship between a character and another character or object within a scene. An imaginary line called the axis connects the characters, and by keeping the camera on one side of this axis for every shot in the scene, the first character is always frame right of the second character, who is then always frame left of the first. The camera passing over the axis is called jumping the line or crossing the line; breaking the 180-degree rule by shooting on all sides is known as shooting in the round.

The 180-degree rule enables the audience to visually connect with unseen movement happening around and behind the immediate subject and is important in the narration of battle scenes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/180-degree_rule

.Val

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#1119201
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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DominicCobb said:

Shots aren’t flipped by accident. Always a reason (usually screen direction - flow of action).

That’s what I mean by “no discernible reason” 😉 What result does flipping the above shots achieve other than to create continuity issues?

.Val

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#1119179
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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Why the hell do they flip so many shots and apparently for no discernible reason?

Regarding the emperor dummy, can’t say I ever noticed this and probably won’t be able to forget it now damnit! Do you go frame by frame in these movies to notice such things or was it just readily obvious to you?

.Val

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#1118885
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>720p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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towne32 said:
I think having more troopers tones down the absurdity in a way. The humor in the original version is “Wait a minute. You’re not the one who chases us. We’re supposed to be chasing you. That’s ridiculous”. In the SE, it’s now just, “Aha, reinforcements! The tables have turned!”.

Spot on!

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#1118882
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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Captain Antilles said:
Luke’s lightsaber being beneath rather than above the railing has ALWAYS DRIVEN ME CRAZY!

Hey Cap, you might want to edit the quote in your post to only include the image you are referring to. It’s rather irritating to scroll through a post of that length (especially on the same page) just to find a single sentence response at the end.

As you’ll see in the below quote, mods have already asked another member to keep this in mind and clean up their previous post doing the same thing 😉

oojason said:

I’d ask you please go back and remove the block of pics you quoted too - there is really no need to quote all those pics just to post one generic sentence - on the same page.

Thanks.

.Val

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#1118797
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THE STAR WARS REVISITED SAGA'S CUSTOM BLU-RAY/DVD COVER THREAD
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oojason said:

cool blu ray box cover - and disc art - for Revisited (and DeSpecialised Edition)…

^ from http://carlotta4th.deviantart.com/

download link - http://imgur.com/a/xLpgT

Wow, that’s awesome! Makes it very hard to decide between individual cases for each movie due to the excellent case art out there already or this very well done simplistic and professional case to conveniently contain them all.

.Val

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#1117980
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NJVC Custom Blu-ray Set of Harmy’s Despecialized Editions now available on Mega
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solkap said:

Valheru_84 said:

I’ve already got my copies

Yep, I know. I got mine from you back in July! I’ve been wanting to set up something like this since then. But I also wanted to get a green light from leading users of this site first. Once I got approval from NJVC and Harmy, I posted as quickly as I could.

I couldn’t quite remember if you were one of the members I provided the links for but it was also more just a general comment in regards to the rest of what I was saying rather than specifically making a point of it 😛

I did the same thing, waiting till I had confirmation from NJVC before proceeding to make them available. It’s a shame we haven’t seen them around here more often, the whole profiteer ordeal seems to have put them off being active in the community for now with no new posts since they announced the links would be removed due to the issue 😕

.Val

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#1117927
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NJVC Custom Blu-ray Set of Harmy’s Despecialized Editions now available on Mega
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Great work Solkap! Awesome to see these available again and with a great guide to boot. I’ve already got my copies but it’s good to know other SW fans will be able to again get and appreciate these amazing creations and enjoy the SW they remember and love so dearly in a way that should have always been possible.

Fingers crossed it doesn’t escalate the copies being sold for profit but I guess NJVC has had a good think about and decided to release them again anyway which is a big decision seeing as how the whole situation must make them feel. Hopefully by making these easy to get (like 2 seconds of google searching), it should actually head of the need of anyone buying them on eBay and instead invest a smaller part of that money if need be in official SW copies instead to meet the requested requirements of owning the movies to acquire these blurays.

Note that I found searching for “star wars despecialized blu ray” returned NJVC’s original thread as the first result so it might be good to ask him to include a link for this thread at the top of his OP, as you know that for many people even reading past two lines of text is too much which will then see them go looking for the still easier method of obtaining these if they have cash to spare.

.Val

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#1117103
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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Tantive3+1 said:

It’s only one.

Yeah it just must be a shadow at the bottom of the bowl with the moving water that made it seem in my memory like there was more than one. It’s not a detail I particularly paid attention to whenever watching the movie but now I’m going to notice it every time thanks to you 😛 (or maybe thanks to Ady if he fixes this small continuity error).

.Val

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#1117073
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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Tantive3+1 said:
In the scene when Jabba eats the frog-like creature from the water bowl and then “Leia” enters with Chewbacca chained up “to collect the bounty on him”, in the next shot showing Jabba the frog-like creature is shown in the water bowl again.

I don’t see any issue with this one, to me it actually looks like there are at least two frog creatures in the bowl in the top shot and only one in the bottom shot. I’d always imagined he originally had a bowl full of them since Jabba’s a pretty big guy and by the last shot he is down to the last one after having just seen him down the other one he just grabbed out.

.Val

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#1117071
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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jarbear said:

I am very glad Ady will be adding some more B-wings and new pilot scenes, I would love to see the executor being taken down by B-wings. He could totally keep the scenes on the Bridge … but take out the crashing A-wing and instead have a 3 B-wing Squad do a full blast on the bridge.

ray_afraid said:
I’m all for more B-Wings, but I hope the A-Wing still takes out the Super Destroyer bridge.
Ady has said that he will be recreating the famous production art of the B-Wings taking out a couple regular Destroyers*, which will add even more epic scale and destruction to the battle.

*

Great ideas, either of them would be awesome!

.Val

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#1115259
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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DominicCobb said:

Wow, all this time I thought this was a George Lucas movie, I guess it was actually a Disney movie all along.

Thanks for the facts!

PT doesn’t count in this debate 😉

If you want to discuss this particular reference though…it was before the dark times, before the empire.

.Val

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#1114852
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Return of the Jedi - Remastered
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Anakin Starkiller said:

Valheru_84 said:

Till recently the thought of OT fanedits has never entered my mind and they still never will for ANH and TESB. However, being part of this community for a while now has made me realise that ROTJ could possibly use some tweaking here and there to as you say, strengthen it in view of the other two movies.

Your edit sounds very interesting, especially with the fact you used Harmy’s DSE as the base for 95% of it. My only gripes that make me reluctant to watch it though are:

  • You left in the CGI creatures in Jabba’s palace despite removing Jedi Rocks. Never had a problem with the original scene nor Nappti Lek.

  • You kept the SE ending and music. It’s not one of my most hated changes by GL but it’s still up there with most of the big ones as it completely messes with how I feel at the end of the last SW movie (till Ep7:TFA came along anyway but ROTJ will always feel like the closer on the OT with TFA starting the next trilogy).

I don’t know if it’s to much to ask, but would you consider making a 100% DSE edition of your edit or at least revert the above matters to their DSE versions in an alternate edit?

.Val

It’s Lapti Nek, not Nappti Lek.

LMAO!!

I thought “Nappti Lek” didn’t quite sound right but it wasn’t a big enough itch to make me double check my muddled memory. Thanks for the correction XD

.Val

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#1114369
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Return of the Jedi - Remastered
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darthrush said:

Valheru_84 said:

NeverarGreat said:

It would be nice to have a <5gb or multipart file option so that Mega would work.

Shouldn’t you just be able to use winzip, winrar or 7zip to split it up into multiple files? This might help also in producing a larger video file if darthrush has the ability to produce a higher quality one (having read earlier that the quality seems a bit lacking when compared to other edits)?

.Val

I replied to that review and made it clear that I encoded Harmy’s source work straight to a high-bitrate 1080p digital copy that looks great on the tv. I compared it to popular edits and it has much better video quality than the Dan Edit, the Spence Edit’s, the Ziggy edit, and equal/slightly better than Q2’s video quality. It’s not a full blu ray copy, but it has no problems in the technical visual specs.

Ah glad to hear, I haven’t had a chance to read right through the thread yet and missed that sorry.

What were your thoughts regarding my request on the previous page?

darthrush said:

Everyone should also know that the free program “Megadownloader” bypasses the 5 GB limit quite easily. Just plug the mega link into the program, choose your download location, and your on your way!

I take it this is a different program from the official app?

.Val

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#1114314
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Return of the Jedi - Remastered
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NeverarGreat said:

Valheru_84 said:

NeverarGreat said:

It would be nice to have a <5gb or multipart file option so that Mega would work.

Shouldn’t you just be able to use winzip, winrar or 7zip to split it up into multiple files? This might help also in producing a larger video file if darthrush has the ability to produce a higher quality one (having read earlier that the quality seems a bit lacking when compared to other edits)?

.Val

What I’m saying is that with Mega’s new (since August) 5gb cap, any file larger than that is unavailable unless you’re a paying customer. I just wanted to let him know so he might split the file into parts, since I’d be unable to get this edit otherwise.

Yeah I’m aware of the 5gb limit which you can get around by simply restarting your modem / router and resuming your download (I believe you need to have the mega app installed). I’m no longer a paying member of mega and have just downloaded two 8gb single file fanedits with a third one of the same size on the way (the new PT Proxy edits). I did of course get the prompt to purchase a plan each time I reach the 5gb limit, I just exit the mega app though, restart my router and then reopen the app once I get my internet connection back and the download resumes as you get a new IP address from your ISP upon modem restart.

There are other ways to accomplish the same thing but as you suggested, making the file multi part also helps in this scenario which I was just saying you should be able to do this with one of the mentioned programs (more so for the OP’s information if they weren’t aware).

.Val

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#1114215
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Return of the Jedi - Remastered
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NeverarGreat said:

It would be nice to have a <5gb or multipart file option so that Mega would work.

Shouldn’t you just be able to use winzip, winrar or 7zip to split it up into multiple files? This might help also in producing a larger video file if darthrush has the ability to produce a higher quality one (having read earlier that the quality seems a bit lacking when compared to other edits)?

.Val

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#1114207
Topic
Return of the Jedi - Remastered
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Till recently the thought of OT fanedits has never entered my mind and they still never will for ANH and TESB. However, being part of this community for a while now has made me realise that ROTJ could possibly use some tweaking here and there to as you say, strengthen it in view of the other two movies.

Your edit sounds very interesting, especially with the fact you used Harmy’s DSE as the base for 95% of it. My only gripes that make me reluctant to watch it though are:

  • You left in the CGI creatures in Jabba’s palace despite removing Jedi Rocks. Never had a problem with the original scene nor Nappti Lek.

  • You kept the SE ending and music. It’s not one of my most hated changes by GL but it’s still up there with most of the big ones as it completely messes with how I feel at the end of the last SW movie (till Ep7:TFA came along anyway but ROTJ will always feel like the closer on the OT with TFA starting the next trilogy).

I don’t know if it’s to much to ask, but would you consider making a 100% DSE edition of your edit or at least revert the above matters to their DSE versions in an alternate edit?

.Val

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#1114112
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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Briefly on the topic of storm trooper camo - it’s entirely unnecessary and counter productive to the narrative and plot devices that the purposefully always white troopers are. Throughout the movies you see their armour take different shapes and forms in different environments that do provide different functionality but they always remain white which points to a higher conscious decision to maintain a stark white armour despite adapting its form & design to the conditions and military engagement.

From a logical viewpoint not taking anything else into account, yes it makes sense from a military perspective to provide forest, desert or urban camo armour as per the environment they are deployed to but this logic has obviously been consciously overriden (as per a GL statement quoted in an earlier post) in favour of the image and message it conveys by all troopers remaining white. It speaks to the might and power of the Empire, a constant and unmissable message conveyed wherever ther are seen, that they need not bother with such tactical matters nor do they ever feel the need even consider such matters as who would raise a hand against the mighty Empire? Until the Rebels off course…

The only military members of the Empire (apart from the Officers) that are not white are the black fighter pilots who primarily will always be on a Star Destroyer or the Death Star or actually inside a Tie fighter and not seen by the general public as well. And then there’s the ceremonial guards in red which again is all about the associated message - it is the colour of blood and is meant to convey fear and awe as it signifies the imminent arrival or presence of the Emperor himself.

It’s all about visual language such as the fact that Vader being all black makes him a fearful figure and really stand out in the Empire against the vast ranks of opposingly stark white storm troopers. Also being the public face of the Empire, troopers being white could be seen as a way to placate and mislead the masses into continual complacent acceptance of their control since white is not generally associated with ‘evil’ but with ‘good’ and so the masses are less likely to care about the Empire’s motives as long as they are generally left alone and will turn a blind eye to events they don’t have first hand knowledge or involvement with.

Ok, maybe that wasn’t so brief LOL…

.Val

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#1114062
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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MalàStrana said:

doubleofive said:

People suggesting ideas from the new movies is on topic.

People rejecting those ideas because Disney/LFL came up with them is not.

Is this also a possibility ?

  • People suggesting ideas from the PT is on topic.
  • People rejecting those ideas ‘just’ because Lucas came up with them is not.
  • People rejecting PT ideas because they hate the PT and love the OT of which ROTJ is from, is on topic.

Just clarifying your 2nd condition and adding a 3rd one 😉

.Val

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#1113082
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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exitzero said:

When Luke is hiding from Vader under the throne dais, the consoles he’s using to conceal himself don’t even reach to the ground. When he screams “No!” he’s right out in the open like Vader couldn’t see him. there needs to be more of a maze of consoles and equipment underneath the throne.

Amongst all the chat about trooper camo and Emperor ship colour schemes, the above is actually not a bad idea. I too remember initially thinking it a bit odd that Luke just ends up being in the open in the shadow of some stairs though it was more of a niggle than an annoyance and after repeat viewings I stopped thinking about it.

.Val