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- Star Wars: Rogue One - * Non Spoiler Discussion Thread *
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Why would anyone want to do a four dot ellipsis. . . .
For English reasons!
Why would anyone want to do a four dot ellipsis. . . .
For English reasons!
Yo Fo, would you mind excising a few lines from your signature? It’s starting to take up more space than your average post.
Thanks.
- The Empire Strikes Back
- STAR WARS
- The Force Awakens
- Rogue One
- Return of The Jedi
- Revenge of The Sith
- The Phantom Menace
- Attack of The Clones
I can’t believe I live in a world in which there are enough good Star Wars films that I can have ROTJ be 5TH on my list. That’s pretty mind blowing.
Yeah, I’m having that same dilemma. I feel like I should be ranking Return of the Jedi higher than I do… but the facts are there.
My New Order (eesh, that came out weird…):
I. Star Wars
II. The Empire Strikes Back
III. Rogue One
IV. Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens
V. Revenge of the Sith
VI. The Phantom Menace (which I think should be retroactively made an Anthology film)
VII. Attack of the Clones
Well are you? Do you really think Johnson is going to direct his film towards 5-10 year olds?
Well, in my mind, that’s what’s great about Rogue One – it’s changed the discussion. It’s changing fan expectations. All in extremely good ways.
Rogue One is a home run. It’s a spectacular film. A game changer. My only criticism is the music score. It was good but not great. Other than that, I could not have asked for a better Star Wars film. Third-best film in the franchise, easily.
It’s interesting. I listened to the score very closely because of things I’d heard and I found it to be okay. It was very Williams-esque, with lots of nice references, but it wasn’t heavy-handed about it and still sounded original.
However, it also didn’t really have any stand-out themes apart from ones we know.
But that could tie into this being a galaxy-building story film and not a character-driven “human interest” film.
Watching Star Wars now, and Rogue One makes the opening scene so much better.
It’s required viewing before a Star Wars marathon now for sure.
And, btw, I know EVERYONE is loving the Vader scene (as did I) but I’ll be the guy to throw a huge monkey wrench in the Vader-orgy going on:
With one force pull, he grabbed 5-6 blasters. Couldn’t he have done the exact same thing with the plans that the soldier was holding? One force pull and he’s got them. Done.Continue…
It’s unclear if he even realizes that guy has the plans.
Riiiiiihgt. So the dark lord of the Sith needs someone to point an arrow at them and say “these are the plans you’re looking for?” He could use the force, read their minds and find the trooper that’s the MOST frantic. Or, hell, the one who’s thinking “I’m holding the plans in my hand.” He’s the one with the plans. Done.
Assuming he knew that one Rebel had the plans, maybe he was focused on the fight. Maybe he was using all his powers to not get shot. Maybe he thought the guy was trapped and wouldn’t be able to get the plans through. Maybe he was overconfident he’d get there before they got away. Maybe the Rebels got lucky.
Why didn’t he just use the Force to stop the Tantive from escaping? Why did they waste time going on foot? Why didn’t his Star Destroyer just destroy the Rebel flagship? Why didn’t the Death Star shoot it?
Point is: who cares? Things happen how they happen.
Chopper from Rebels?
Oh good! I was hoping to see a screenie of it, since I missed it in the theater. I’m definitely confirming Chopper.
Rogue One isn’t a movie about characters, it is a movie about the state of the galaxy and how that affects the characters living in it, and to that end, I feel like the characters were kinda meant to blend into the backdrop a bit, because the real characters of the film are the Rebellion and the Empire. It’s just not a character film, and I don’t think it was meant to be one.
I don’t feel like the character writing was especially weak: was Han any more developed at the end of Star Wars than Cassian? Ignore Empire and Jedi and Awakens. Leaving the theater, I felt like I knew each character’s archetype and story as much as I do at the end of Star Wars. And I felt the story writing was very strong and all worked and made sense.
Rogue One isn’t about heroes or romantic ideas of daring escapes. It’s about normal people defined by off-screen events (mostly) who sacrifice themselves to further a larger cause. It’s a war movie (well, war movie lite) in that way. They just straight up die, and it’s not heroic or romanticized or pretty or glorious. It’s (mostly) quick and ugly. Rogue One is more Black Hawk Down than Saving Private Ryan: a dramatized telling of “real” events, almost a documentary.
The point of Rogue One was to expand and flesh out the universe we know, not give us a bunch of new characters to love who we’ll never see again. They served their purpose and did their duty. And I think the movie did an incredible job showing us different sides of the universe we know without shrinking it or blowing the chance (the infrastructure and politics of the Empire, the seedy underbelly and politics of the Rebellion, the badass fighter side of Vader), it showed us a lot of things we had always assumed, but had never been seen and they pulled it all off while tying it all into the OT and did it without a hitch, which is an amazing feat in and of itself.
A great movie, I think. I’ll post more once I see it again.
Is OT.com down guys?
Love those royalty-free Incomptech jams.
Adywan will realize the movies would look way better in teal.
I’m afraid the public will reject my invention (raccoon sodomizer) and I’ll go down the laundry chute as a laughing sock.
WYSHS
FTFY
Those are really awesome but it’s a damn shame they just copy-pasted Vader…
REM is incredible.
These are all the REM albums I own, other than Monster (which I forgot to post).
Monster is their best album! Most REM fans I meet harshly disagree, but for me it’s the best by a long distance.
Yes! Well, I wouldn’t say it’s their best, for me personally that’s Automatic. But Monster is hideously underrated, especially by their fans.
Agreed. Monster is fantastic.
I was uneasy about the cinematography while the trailers for TFA were coming out (particularly that whip-zoom on the Falcon entering the Star Destroyer wreck), but I’ve grown used to it and it doesn’t bother me at all any more. It’s certainly better than that god awful slow zoom thing that’s going on perpetually in the PT.
Yeah, I hate the whip-zoom. But they pioneered that for Star Wars in the PT.
Technically there’s at least one of those in Empire.
And I think the one TFA snap-zoom actually works fairly well (as in there’s a point to it).
Is there? I don’t remember it…
At around the :31 second mark:
https://youtu.be/7FQNIoVLSdw?t=30s
It’s funny, the second I opened that video I remembered it.
It’s still pretty bad, but it’s at least a short one. I think it’s telling that I don’t remember that one but the ones in Clones stick with me as just awful.
I was uneasy about the cinematography while the trailers for TFA were coming out (particularly that whip-zoom on the Falcon entering the Star Destroyer wreck), but I’ve grown used to it and it doesn’t bother me at all any more. It’s certainly better than that god awful slow zoom thing that’s going on perpetually in the PT.
Yeah, I hate the whip-zoom. But they pioneered that for Star Wars in the PT.
Technically there’s at least one of those in Empire.
And I think the one TFA snap-zoom actually works fairly well (as in there’s a point to it).
Is there? I don’t remember it…
The TFA one is technically correct, I’ll give you that, but I still don’t like the technique.
If you ever seriously use the term “florid dialog” it’s time for you to leave this earth.
I was uneasy about the cinematography while the trailers for TFA were coming out (particularly that whip-zoom on the Falcon entering the Star Destroyer wreck), but I’ve grown used to it and it doesn’t bother me at all any more. It’s certainly better than that god awful slow zoom thing that’s going on perpetually in the PT.
Yeah, I hate the whip-zoom. But they pioneered that for Star Wars in the PT.
Love it.
REM is incredible.
Glad Episode VII wasn’t shit.
Imp’scum sock disconfirmed.
I secretly fear that I might actually be too sexy.
On second thought …
I’ll never tell. ;D
Now I have two degrees officially.
Neat.
joker.js would be a javascript file, just for the record.
Up to you man. I gave my opinion.
Alan Thicke (apparently) - 69
WE GOT NOBODY LEFT 2016!
Glad Episode VII wasn’t shit.
I secretly fear that I might actually be too sexy.