Tyrphanax

DominicCobb said:

bishabosha said:

Back to the topic of Giacchino’s score, I found this bridge at 3:30 in “Tales of a Jedi Knight/Learn About The Force” from the Star Wars '77 soundtrack, it’s exactly the Jyn Erso theme from RO, take a listen:

https://youtu.be/soNidwqk1U4?t=3m30s

Personally, I think that section sucks as a main theme, it’s too simplistic, but it does sound like it was actually a callback to the original score for ANH.

Edit: It seems someone in the YouTube comments beat me to it

That’s pretty cool. I’ve seen people point out that Jyn’s theme is based in Dies Irae, which makes sense because there are a few direct quotations of it throughout the RO score, and of course SW before it (especially during Burning Homestead). I guess I never noticed it but that bit^ is definitely based in Dies Irae, which makes sense because it’s when Luke is rejecting his fate/destiny (which is of course flipped in the aforementioned Burning Homestead scene).

Yeah they mention both of these in the podcast linked awhile back. It’s very cool stuff, and amazing to think Giacchino was able to make it in four weeks. I’d never have been able to come up with little homages and references like that in a year.

I love that Threepio!

Richard Adams - 96

The writer of Watership Down snuck in with Carrie.

Still, I hate spoilers so I feel bad.

Moving on!

SilverWook said:

I have faith that the people making the sequels will honor Carrie, and find a way to deal with Leia’s absence.

I agree. I’m sure they’ll treat the part with dignity and reverence.

Hopefully it’s a bit better than a couple of pictures on a desk.

TV’s Frink said:

Tyrphanax said:

Handman said:

I got some slightly-too-big clothes this year.

That’s usually me. I still argue with my parents that I’m usually a medium and not a large and they won’t hear it.

Son, you eat too much to be a medium.

That’s how it feels! *sobs*

Darth Id said:

Tyrphanax said:

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Oh, groan, are you serious? That type of stuff is exactly why I don’t watch movies any more…

Ah shit. Yeah. Sorry about that. I didn’t realize what thread I was in. If you wouldn’t mind editing that out of your post hopefully we can preserve it for others. In the defense of the movie it’s really great and works really well in my opinion.

JEDIT: Wook too, I suppose. <_<

I can’t believe she’s gone.

I mean. Like. What do you even say. I grew up with Carrie almost. She was as much a part of my life through Princess Leia as my real life friends and family were… and she was just amazing to read about and seemed like one of the most real and genuine people in Hollywood.

I dunno what to even say. This sucks.

Handman said:

Haarspalter said:

TV’s Frink said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

TV’s Frink said:

Mavimao said:

The prequels for one. Great soundtracks. But mediocre films.

Tron Legacy…

Tron Legacy is also a great soundtrack, but I happen to think it’s a very good film as well.

Yeah!

Superior to the original in many ways, actually.

NOT YEAH!

Don’t get me wrong, I think Tron is good…but it also hasn’t aged very well.

Tron Legacy is aging faster than light speed.

Oh gosh, that’s what Tarkin will look like in 6 years. I’m not ready.

On the plus side, that’s what some top-end video games look like now, so that’s what we have to look forward to.

TV’s Frink said:

Handman said:

Haarspalter said:

TV’s Frink said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

TV’s Frink said:

Mavimao said:

The prequels for one. Great soundtracks. But mediocre films.

Tron Legacy…

Tron Legacy is also a great soundtrack, but I happen to think it’s a very good film as well.

Yeah!

Superior to the original in many ways, actually.

NOT YEAH!

Don’t get me wrong, I think Tron is good…but it also hasn’t aged very well.

Tron Legacy is aging faster than light speed.

Oh gosh, that’s what Tarkin will look like in 6 years. I’m not ready.

The difference is that Tarkin is a person rather than a computer program. A creepy CGI Jeff Bridges makes perfect sense in the context of the character, even if it was only done that way because they couldn’t do any better.

I agree with this. That’s how I always looked at it.

I was thinking about this earlier. It’s funny, I feel like CGI characters can come off really well, but thinking about applying the same technology for Episode VIII just felt wrong to me.

Alderaan said:

Back in the 1980s we had the following:

1. Official “lifetime rental” copy of the original Star Wars
2. homemade VHS copy of Empire Strikes Back recorded off Showtime
3. homemade VHS copy of Return of the Jedi w/ the last 5-10 minutes cut off

The picture quality of these copies was not good and deteriorated year after year, but I must have watched those tapes hundreds of times. Return of the Jedi was hard to see after a few years. Then Return of the Jedi came out on TV for the first time in 1989, and I remember being so excited because I could finally watch the entire movie all the way through the end.

By the 1990’s you could catch a random afternoon showing of any of the Star Wars films on cable. The FOX fanfare would start blaring when you flipped through the channels, and sometimes it would be another movie and you’d be disappointed, but often it would be Star Wars and you could stop everything you were doing and watch the movie for the next two or three hours. More popular were the weekend marathons, including one that I remember was hosted by Carrie Fisher, where the original Star Wars would play on Friday night, The Empire Strikes Back would play on Saturday night, and Return of the Jedi would conclude the trilogy on Sunday evening.

By those days, growing up through grade school and middle school, I was playing Star Wars on Nintendo and quoting Luke/Vader/Emperor dialogue back and forth with my Dad when I challenged him in some contest or game. I bought “The Faces” VHS box set in the mid-90s, the first thing I ever bought and owned on my own. Nothing brought me more joy than sliding those tapes out of their beautiful sleeves and popping them in the VCR, allowing me to toss out the faded bootleg cassettes I’d had previously, and replace them with (for the time) new and pristine tapes.

Ominously, they began with a message: “Own the Original Star Wars Trilogy: For the very last time”. That warning made no sense to us at the time. How could we have ever known?

This is a good post.

I remember those random 90s showings and the “For the last time” campaign and everything. I can still recite the pre-special-features featurette that rolled before the Special Edition VHS tapes I got for Christmas one year.

darthrush said:

Just finished listening to this INCREDIBLE podcast episode about the score of Rogue one, done by Michael Giacchino. It REALLY delves into DEEP ANALYSIS of the different tracks and their meanings and connections to the rest of the saga.

Here’s a link to it. Any film soundtrack/score junkies will EAT THIS UP! 😉

Web Link- http://www.rebelforceradio.com/shows/2016/12/21/star-wars-oxygen-vol-38-rogue-one-part-1

Iphone Link- https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/rebel-force-radio-star-wars/id593355728?mt=2

Tyrphanax said:

I remember Rey’s Theme from TFA and that’s literally it. And I saw it maybe five times in theaters and listened through the soundtrack a few times. To be honest, I left the theater wondering if it had even been scored in the same way as the OT. Music felt much less like a part of the film for TFA (whereas it’s an essential part of the OT).

I remember a lot more of the music from Rogue One. I also listened to this podcast at the behest of Tobar and gained an even larger appreciation for it.

<_<

But yeah, it’s definitely worth posting again because it really sheds a whole new light on the score and the throughlines into Star Wars.

Handman said:

I got some slightly-too-big clothes this year.

That’s usually me. I still argue with my parents that I’m usually a medium and not a large and they won’t hear it.

darth_ender said:

^, ^^ Dually noted.

Reported.

Hahaha

darth_ender said:

TV’s Frink said:

Just in case anyone was wondering.

PM not sent.

Reported.

To provide a place for people who don’t need invitations to anything a place to let people know so they don’t worry, I’d assume.

DominicCobb said:

Tyrphanax said:

The Ultimate Edition of the score from The Phantom Menace is incredible and has a ton of fantastic unused music. I wish all the movies had gotten a soundtrack release like that.

I’d say I wish all the movies got a release like the OT special edition soundtracks. Those contain all the cues, unedited. The TPM Ultimate Edition has a lot of great stuff that wasn’t included on the OST, but it has all the music edits from the film which means, particularly in the climax, things tend to become a bit of a mess.

You make a very fine point and I agree.

Anchorhead said:

Just got back from my second watch. Even better than the first. To me, it’s really a much deeper and serious film than any of the others. Felicity is fantastic, as is her character.

The scene once they’re back inside the ship after the failed rescue on Eadu is maybe her best moment. The tension in the ship when she confronts Andor is palpable. Her wavering between anger and emotional distress is perfect. She is clearly unmoored emotionally and choking back a breakdown.

The score was much more engaging than I’d remembered. Buying it in 3…2…

I can’t imagine I’ll ever prefer any other Star Wars entity over this one. I’m a very happy fan.

Had that same feeling myself on the second go-round.

Swazzy said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41_ooqHzYGc

Once again, the single greatest track in the entire series. And it lasts less than a minute.

Can’t say I don’t agree. A very fine piece of music.

darth_ender said:

Tyrphanax said:

canofhumdingers said:

Anchorhead said:

I agree with pointing out the lack of consistency in criticizing elements of the movies. I’ve been a vocal critic of the silliness of Imperial Walkers for decades. However, I appreciate the visual. It makes for an imposing presence and it’s cool for the audience. I thought they were interesting visually in 1980 and I think they’re interesting visually now.

To be clear, if you can do this;

You wouldn’t be bothering with this;

I’ve not been following this thread too closely (so tired of all the bickering, first with TFA, and now Rogue One). So apologies if I’m missing the point. But in ESB, the walkers were sent to take out the shield generator. We saw in R1 what happens when a ship flies into a planetary shield… And (I can’t believe I’m saying this) we saw in The Phantom Menace that walking slowly through an energy shield works. So maybe the imperial navy had every intention of sending a star destroyer down into the atmosphere on Hoth…?

As for the logicalness of walkers, they actually make a lot of sense in forrests or really steep and jagged/loose terrain. The original AT-ATs were inspired by an actual military research project.

Yeah, the initial Imperial plan was to sneak up on the system, drop out of hyperspace right on top of the planet, and orbitally-bombard the Rebels into spacedust.

The whole reason the Empire sent the AT-ATs was because Ozzel dropped out of lightspeed too close to the planet. This alerted the Rebels to the presence of the Imperial fleet, giving them time to raise their shield (“strong enough to deflect any bombardment”). It’s all right there in the movie!

But considering the planetary shield only covered a portion of the planet, couldn’t the star destroyers have descended into the atmosphere outside the reach of the shields and then approached Echo Base?

I guess not, because they didn’t haha.

Vera Rubin - 88

Not everyone basically discovers dark matter. Shoulda had the Nobel Prize.

TV’s Frink said:

Mavimao said:

The prequels for one. Great soundtracks. But mediocre films.

Tron Legacy…

The TPM soundtrack is excellent. I never noticed the other two one way or the other, except for the fact that they recycle way too much of TPM.

Tron Legacy is also a great soundtrack, but I happen to think it’s a very good film as well. Superior to the original in many ways, actually.

Agreed on both counts.

The Ultimate Edition of the score from The Phantom Menace is incredible and has a ton of fantastic unused music. I wish all the movies had gotten a soundtrack release like that.

The music in TRON: Legacy is amazing also, and for what it’s worth, I actually enjoyed the film quite a lot.

darthrush said:

One of my favorite gifts I recieved was “The Making of the Empire Strikes Back” by J.W. Rinzler

Soooooooo excited to delve into it 😃

Mad jelly!

dahmage said:

You should get Tyr to make you one. Or someone who has an oven timer 😋

WOW ARE YOU TRYIN’ TO START SOMETHIN’ MAN?

Man what a great Christmas.

Me either.

Thanks, everyone.