Tyrphanax

TV’s Frink said:

This should be a fun couple of pages coming up…

Anyway, where are all the Republicans who complained about Emperor Obama signing executive orders?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38777437

At this rate Trump is going to out-executive-order Obama by next Tuesday. Gotta love those hypocritical Republicans!

I’m usually not a political cartoon guy, but the one Warb posted a couple pages back was spot on, I thought.

It’s a hilarious hypocrisy.

TV’s Frink said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/us/trump-hiring-freeze-veterans-affairs.html

President Trump’s move this week to freeze the hiring of federal workers has sowed confusion in the Department of Veterans Affairs, and it may be driving a wedge between the president and veterans, who overwhelmingly backed him during his campaign.

Veterans make up nearly a third of all federal workers — about 623,000 people. And they are especially numerous in low-level support jobs likely to bear the brunt of the freeze.

“This has sent shock waves across the entire veteran community,” Paul Rieckhoff, chief executive of Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, said in an interview this week. “A lot of our members are extremely worried.”

Officials at the Department of Veterans Affairs are still trying to figure out the effects of the freeze.

Hopefully our vets remember this treatment come midterms.

TV’s Frink said:

Darth Id said:

A certain Mr. R. McAvoy is on absolute fire in the Trench Run thread.
Govern yourselves accordingly.

Tyrphanax said:

I’m loving his posts.

Back off he’s mine.

Fight me.

DominicCobb said:

Tyrphanax said:

Warbler said:

Tyrphanax said:

TV’s Frink said:

Bingowings said:

Warbler said:

Bingowings said:

Warbler said:

Bingowings said:

moviefreakedmind said:

generalfrevious said:

moviefreakedmind said:

The idea that your future was robbed by Trump is like a parody of the most insane anti-Trump people.

Here’s a fact: all rich and/or conservative people are inherently evil, and want all poor people to die.

This kind of crap is why no one on this forum likes you.

It’s the truth.
They are all evil.

Not all conservatives and/or rich people are evil. Some are, some aren’t.

For one thing Trump and the Brexiteers aren’t conservative. They are reactionary. But they are all evil, every last one of them.

I would try to argue the point with you, but I think that would be pointless. Not all Conservatives are evil.

Trump isn’t conservative. A conservative wants to maintain what exists and only change as a matter of last resort. Trump wants to roll backwards to a mythical better time. He is a reactionary. He is evil. his supporters are evil. All of them.

I agree with most of this, but I take issue with all Trump supporters being evil. Some of his supporters are just not very informed. Some are desperate. Some are blinded by party loyalty (ironic since Trump is not Conservative, as you said). Some are evil.

I agree.

I love the insane pipe dream that we can somehow go back to a time where coal and car-making jobs were plentiful and paid pensions you could retire on and the only reason they don’t exist anymore is because of immigrants and outsourcing (partially true, mind you), but the fact is that mainly through progress and automation, those jobs are gone forever. This reliance on the fantastical “good old days” is inane and damaging. The past is the past and we need to look forward to the future.

If you want to make America greater, you need to invest in education (at all levels, including trades) and help citizens get jobs that pay living wages in a progressive and automated world. You need to invest in comprehensive healthcare reform that guarantees that American citizens won’t have to choose between going bankrupt taking the most basic care of themselves or dying of a preventable or curable disease. You need to welcome immigrants who bring diversity and talent and innovation to our country, instead of another. You need to invest in the less advantaged among us, you need to invest in our veterans, you need to end the war on drugs so that people who make a bad choice don’t end up in poverty for the rest of their lives and so that we don’t invest in a broken, profit-driven prison industrial complex. You need to support our allies overseas and keep America in the minds of the world. You need to support science and space exploration and climate change research; America must be at the global forefront and the cutting edge of innovation and research and development and science in order to be greater. Looking back to the days of the Industrial Revolution only hurts us. Throttling scientific advances and research and reports only hurts us.

If you want to end illegal immigration from our southern border, you need to invest in Mexico and help make it a country with a strong economy and a strong government that its people don’t need to leave in order to secure a future for themselves and their families; you cannot treat the symptoms and expect to cure the disease, you must treat the cause. As a side effect, it also gives us a strong southern ally, and boosts the entire economy of the western hemisphere. You can’t just build a wall and contribute to the destruction of the environment through creating millions oft yards of concrete, by creating an impassable barrier for flora and fauna, by spending millions of taxpayer dollars and expect the problem to just “go away.”

This strange notion that isolationism is a good plan in any way in a modern world is ridiculous. It didn’t work for feudal Japan and it certainly won’t work in 2017. With each area we pull out of, with each foreign program we stop funding, Russia steps in. China steps in. Our rivals step in, and after America finally wakes up from its nap, we will find ourselves in a world where we are no longer a superpower and have no horse in the global race, with more powerful rivals on every side. I wasn’t a fan of TPP in its current form (and its the one thing I’ve agreed with President Trump on so far), but I acknowledge that denying it opens the door for China to dictate trade in the Pacific, and so reworking the TPP to be in the best interests of the people and not the corporations, while allowing the US to hold China’s interests in the Pacific off must happen. Globalization is happening and it cannot be stopped, only ignored to the detriment of the ignorant.

Anyway that got a bit out of hand, but yeah I agree.

great post.

DominicCobb said:

Tyrphanax said:

TV’s Frink said:

Bingowings said:

Warbler said:

Bingowings said:

Warbler said:

Bingowings said:

moviefreakedmind said:

generalfrevious said:

moviefreakedmind said:

The idea that your future was robbed by Trump is like a parody of the most insane anti-Trump people.

Here’s a fact: all rich and/or conservative people are inherently evil, and want all poor people to die.

This kind of crap is why no one on this forum likes you.

It’s the truth.
They are all evil.

Not all conservatives and/or rich people are evil. Some are, some aren’t.

For one thing Trump and the Brexiteers aren’t conservative. They are reactionary. But they are all evil, every last one of them.

I would try to argue the point with you, but I think that would be pointless. Not all Conservatives are evil.

Trump isn’t conservative. A conservative wants to maintain what exists and only change as a matter of last resort. Trump wants to roll backwards to a mythical better time. He is a reactionary. He is evil. his supporters are evil. All of them.

I agree with most of this, but I take issue with all Trump supporters being evil. Some of his supporters are just not very informed. Some are desperate. Some are blinded by party loyalty (ironic since Trump is not Conservative, as you said). Some are evil.

I agree.

I love the insane pipe dream that we can somehow go back to a time where coal and car-making jobs were plentiful and paid pensions you could retire on and the only reason they don’t exist anymore is because of immigrants and outsourcing (partially true, mind you), but the fact is that mainly through progress and automation, those jobs are gone forever. This reliance on the fantastical “good old days” is inane and damaging. The past is the past and we need to look forward to the future.

If you want to make America greater, you need to invest in education (at all levels, including trades) and help citizens get jobs that pay living wages in a progressive and automated world. You need to invest in comprehensive healthcare reform that guarantees that American citizens won’t have to choose between going bankrupt taking the most basic care of themselves or dying of a preventable or curable disease. You need to welcome immigrants who bring diversity and talent and innovation to our country, instead of another. You need to invest in the less advantaged among us, you need to invest in our veterans, you need to end the war on drugs so that people who make a bad choice don’t end up in poverty for the rest of their lives and so that we don’t invest in a broken, profit-driven prison industrial complex. You need to support our allies overseas and keep America in the minds of the world. You need to support science and space exploration and climate change research; America must be at the global forefront and the cutting edge of innovation and research and development and science in order to be greater. Looking back to the days of the Industrial Revolution only hurts us. Throttling scientific advances and research and reports only hurts us.

If you want to end illegal immigration from our southern border, you need to invest in Mexico and help make it a country with a strong economy and a strong government that its people don’t need to leave in order to secure a future for themselves and their families; you cannot treat the symptoms and expect to cure the disease, you must treat the cause. As a side effect, it also gives us a strong southern ally, and boosts the entire economy of the western hemisphere. You can’t just build a wall and contribute to the destruction of the environment through creating millions oft yards of concrete, by creating an impassable barrier for flora and fauna, by spending millions of taxpayer dollars and expect the problem to just “go away.”

This strange notion that isolationism is a good plan in any way in a modern world is ridiculous. It didn’t work for feudal Japan and it certainly won’t work in 2017. With each area we pull out of, with each foreign program we stop funding, Russia steps in. China steps in. Our rivals step in, and after America finally wakes up from its nap, we will find ourselves in a world where we are no longer a superpower and have no horse in the global race, with more powerful rivals on every side. I wasn’t a fan of TPP in its current form (and its the one thing I’ve agreed with President Trump on so far), but I acknowledge that denying it opens the door for China to dictate trade in the Pacific, and so reworking the TPP to be in the best interests of the people and not the corporations, while allowing the US to hold China’s interests in the Pacific off must happen. Globalization is happening and it cannot be stopped, only ignored to the detriment of the ignorant.

Anyway that got a bit out of hand, but yeah I agree.

This is a quality post.

Thanks, guys.

Woah, slow down. I didn’t ask for your thanks or your friendship. We’re all humans here and no one is perfect. Enough with the baiting posts.

❤️

I assume this was brought up already:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/01/gop-quietly-admits-there-will-be-no-obamacare-replacement.html

The history of the development of the Republican alternative to Obamacare since the beginning of the health-care debate, in 2009, has been an endless loop of loud promises that a full plan will be announced soon, followed by quiet admissions that it will not. Seventeen days ago, Donald Trump promised a vote to repeal the law “probably some time next week” with a vote for a replacement “very quickly or simultaneously, very shortly thereafter.” At a meeting in Philadelphia yesterday, Trump and his House Republican allies produced no agreement on a plan. If there is a consensus, it is that there will be no replacement plan at all.

Representative Greg Walden, a key leader of the House Republican efforts on health care, tells Julie Rovner, “There’s no single fix. There’s no single plan.” Representative Marsha Blackburn touted bills to limit medical malpractice lawsuits and to allow the sale of state-regulated insurance across state lines. Neither of these proposals would have any significant impact on insurance coverage. If Obamacare is repealed, this would leave the individual-health-insurance market a smoldering crater.

There’s also this, but it’s an interesting (and sad, and scary) thought:

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/316621-dem-senator-trump-handed-isis-a-path-to-rebirth

“Trump has now handed ISIS a path to rebirth,” Murphy said in a Huffington Post op-ed published after Trump’s move. "They can and will use his announcement today as confirmation that America is at war with Muslims, especially those Muslims living in desperate circumstances.

“Their recruitment bulletin boards will light up with new material. Their entreaties to would-be lone wolf attackers in America will have new energy and purpose,” he added.
“All the work we have done to cut down on extremist recruitment at home and abroad now goes out the window. It’s a new day for terrorist recruiters.”

Warbler said:

Tyrphanax said:

TV’s Frink said:

Bingowings said:

Warbler said:

Bingowings said:

Warbler said:

Bingowings said:

moviefreakedmind said:

generalfrevious said:

moviefreakedmind said:

The idea that your future was robbed by Trump is like a parody of the most insane anti-Trump people.

Here’s a fact: all rich and/or conservative people are inherently evil, and want all poor people to die.

This kind of crap is why no one on this forum likes you.

It’s the truth.
They are all evil.

Not all conservatives and/or rich people are evil. Some are, some aren’t.

For one thing Trump and the Brexiteers aren’t conservative. They are reactionary. But they are all evil, every last one of them.

I would try to argue the point with you, but I think that would be pointless. Not all Conservatives are evil.

Trump isn’t conservative. A conservative wants to maintain what exists and only change as a matter of last resort. Trump wants to roll backwards to a mythical better time. He is a reactionary. He is evil. his supporters are evil. All of them.

I agree with most of this, but I take issue with all Trump supporters being evil. Some of his supporters are just not very informed. Some are desperate. Some are blinded by party loyalty (ironic since Trump is not Conservative, as you said). Some are evil.

I agree.

I love the insane pipe dream that we can somehow go back to a time where coal and car-making jobs were plentiful and paid pensions you could retire on and the only reason they don’t exist anymore is because of immigrants and outsourcing (partially true, mind you), but the fact is that mainly through progress and automation, those jobs are gone forever. This reliance on the fantastical “good old days” is inane and damaging. The past is the past and we need to look forward to the future.

If you want to make America greater, you need to invest in education (at all levels, including trades) and help citizens get jobs that pay living wages in a progressive and automated world. You need to invest in comprehensive healthcare reform that guarantees that American citizens won’t have to choose between going bankrupt taking the most basic care of themselves or dying of a preventable or curable disease. You need to welcome immigrants who bring diversity and talent and innovation to our country, instead of another. You need to invest in the less advantaged among us, you need to invest in our veterans, you need to end the war on drugs so that people who make a bad choice don’t end up in poverty for the rest of their lives and so that we don’t invest in a broken, profit-driven prison industrial complex. You need to support our allies overseas and keep America in the minds of the world. You need to support science and space exploration and climate change research; America must be at the global forefront and the cutting edge of innovation and research and development and science in order to be greater. Looking back to the days of the Industrial Revolution only hurts us. Throttling scientific advances and research and reports only hurts us.

If you want to end illegal immigration from our southern border, you need to invest in Mexico and help make it a country with a strong economy and a strong government that its people don’t need to leave in order to secure a future for themselves and their families; you cannot treat the symptoms and expect to cure the disease, you must treat the cause. As a side effect, it also gives us a strong southern ally, and boosts the entire economy of the western hemisphere. You can’t just build a wall and contribute to the destruction of the environment through creating millions oft yards of concrete, by creating an impassable barrier for flora and fauna, by spending millions of taxpayer dollars and expect the problem to just “go away.”

This strange notion that isolationism is a good plan in any way in a modern world is ridiculous. It didn’t work for feudal Japan and it certainly won’t work in 2017. With each area we pull out of, with each foreign program we stop funding, Russia steps in. China steps in. Our rivals step in, and after America finally wakes up from its nap, we will find ourselves in a world where we are no longer a superpower and have no horse in the global race, with more powerful rivals on every side. I wasn’t a fan of TPP in its current form (and its the one thing I’ve agreed with President Trump on so far), but I acknowledge that denying it opens the door for China to dictate trade in the Pacific, and so reworking the TPP to be in the best interests of the people and not the corporations, while allowing the US to hold China’s interests in the Pacific off must happen. Globalization is happening and it cannot be stopped, only ignored to the detriment of the ignorant.

Anyway that got a bit out of hand, but yeah I agree.

great post.

DominicCobb said:

Tyrphanax said:

TV’s Frink said:

Bingowings said:

Warbler said:

Bingowings said:

Warbler said:

Bingowings said:

moviefreakedmind said:

generalfrevious said:

moviefreakedmind said:

The idea that your future was robbed by Trump is like a parody of the most insane anti-Trump people.

Here’s a fact: all rich and/or conservative people are inherently evil, and want all poor people to die.

This kind of crap is why no one on this forum likes you.

It’s the truth.
They are all evil.

Not all conservatives and/or rich people are evil. Some are, some aren’t.

For one thing Trump and the Brexiteers aren’t conservative. They are reactionary. But they are all evil, every last one of them.

I would try to argue the point with you, but I think that would be pointless. Not all Conservatives are evil.

Trump isn’t conservative. A conservative wants to maintain what exists and only change as a matter of last resort. Trump wants to roll backwards to a mythical better time. He is a reactionary. He is evil. his supporters are evil. All of them.

I agree with most of this, but I take issue with all Trump supporters being evil. Some of his supporters are just not very informed. Some are desperate. Some are blinded by party loyalty (ironic since Trump is not Conservative, as you said). Some are evil.

I agree.

I love the insane pipe dream that we can somehow go back to a time where coal and car-making jobs were plentiful and paid pensions you could retire on and the only reason they don’t exist anymore is because of immigrants and outsourcing (partially true, mind you), but the fact is that mainly through progress and automation, those jobs are gone forever. This reliance on the fantastical “good old days” is inane and damaging. The past is the past and we need to look forward to the future.

If you want to make America greater, you need to invest in education (at all levels, including trades) and help citizens get jobs that pay living wages in a progressive and automated world. You need to invest in comprehensive healthcare reform that guarantees that American citizens won’t have to choose between going bankrupt taking the most basic care of themselves or dying of a preventable or curable disease. You need to welcome immigrants who bring diversity and talent and innovation to our country, instead of another. You need to invest in the less advantaged among us, you need to invest in our veterans, you need to end the war on drugs so that people who make a bad choice don’t end up in poverty for the rest of their lives and so that we don’t invest in a broken, profit-driven prison industrial complex. You need to support our allies overseas and keep America in the minds of the world. You need to support science and space exploration and climate change research; America must be at the global forefront and the cutting edge of innovation and research and development and science in order to be greater. Looking back to the days of the Industrial Revolution only hurts us. Throttling scientific advances and research and reports only hurts us.

If you want to end illegal immigration from our southern border, you need to invest in Mexico and help make it a country with a strong economy and a strong government that its people don’t need to leave in order to secure a future for themselves and their families; you cannot treat the symptoms and expect to cure the disease, you must treat the cause. As a side effect, it also gives us a strong southern ally, and boosts the entire economy of the western hemisphere. You can’t just build a wall and contribute to the destruction of the environment through creating millions oft yards of concrete, by creating an impassable barrier for flora and fauna, by spending millions of taxpayer dollars and expect the problem to just “go away.”

This strange notion that isolationism is a good plan in any way in a modern world is ridiculous. It didn’t work for feudal Japan and it certainly won’t work in 2017. With each area we pull out of, with each foreign program we stop funding, Russia steps in. China steps in. Our rivals step in, and after America finally wakes up from its nap, we will find ourselves in a world where we are no longer a superpower and have no horse in the global race, with more powerful rivals on every side. I wasn’t a fan of TPP in its current form (and its the one thing I’ve agreed with President Trump on so far), but I acknowledge that denying it opens the door for China to dictate trade in the Pacific, and so reworking the TPP to be in the best interests of the people and not the corporations, while allowing the US to hold China’s interests in the Pacific off must happen. Globalization is happening and it cannot be stopped, only ignored to the detriment of the ignorant.

Anyway that got a bit out of hand, but yeah I agree.

This is a quality post.

Thanks, guys.

I’m loving his posts.

We can’t help you because you’re hysterical.

Take a deep breath. Get off the internet. Stop feeding your compulsions. Take your meds. Talk to your therapist. Go outside and enjoy a nice day.

doubleofive said:

https://twitter.com/MowtenDoo/status/824825736737415169

Relevant to our interests.

Forget my last post, Trump 2020!

Darth Id said:

Tyrphanax said:

I dig 'em.

You could fill a house with just these.

Maybe someone could, but not me.
Too many bishoujo figures already in the way…

=/

TV’s Frink said:

Bingowings said:

Warbler said:

Bingowings said:

Warbler said:

Bingowings said:

moviefreakedmind said:

generalfrevious said:

moviefreakedmind said:

The idea that your future was robbed by Trump is like a parody of the most insane anti-Trump people.

Here’s a fact: all rich and/or conservative people are inherently evil, and want all poor people to die.

This kind of crap is why no one on this forum likes you.

It’s the truth.
They are all evil.

Not all conservatives and/or rich people are evil. Some are, some aren’t.

For one thing Trump and the Brexiteers aren’t conservative. They are reactionary. But they are all evil, every last one of them.

I would try to argue the point with you, but I think that would be pointless. Not all Conservatives are evil.

Trump isn’t conservative. A conservative wants to maintain what exists and only change as a matter of last resort. Trump wants to roll backwards to a mythical better time. He is a reactionary. He is evil. his supporters are evil. All of them.

I agree with most of this, but I take issue with all Trump supporters being evil. Some of his supporters are just not very informed. Some are desperate. Some are blinded by party loyalty (ironic since Trump is not Conservative, as you said). Some are evil.

I agree.

I love the insane pipe dream that we can somehow go back to a time where coal and car-making jobs were plentiful and paid pensions you could retire on and the only reason they don’t exist anymore is because of immigrants and outsourcing (partially true, mind you), but the fact is that mainly through progress and automation, those jobs are gone forever. This reliance on the fantastical “good old days” is inane and damaging. The past is the past and we need to look forward to the future.

If you want to make America greater, you need to invest in education (at all levels, including trades) and help citizens get jobs that pay living wages in a progressive and automated world. You need to invest in comprehensive healthcare reform that guarantees that American citizens won’t have to choose between going bankrupt taking the most basic care of themselves or dying of a preventable or curable disease. You need to welcome immigrants who bring diversity and talent and innovation to our country, instead of another. You need to invest in the less advantaged among us, you need to invest in our veterans, you need to end the war on drugs so that people who make a bad choice don’t end up in poverty for the rest of their lives and so that we don’t invest in a broken, profit-driven prison industrial complex. You need to support our allies overseas and keep America in the minds of the world. You need to support science and space exploration and climate change research; America must be at the global forefront and the cutting edge of innovation and research and development and science in order to be greater. Looking back to the days of the Industrial Revolution only hurts us. Throttling scientific advances and research and reports only hurts us.

If you want to end illegal immigration from our southern border, you need to invest in Mexico and help make it a country with a strong economy and a strong government that its people don’t need to leave in order to secure a future for themselves and their families; you cannot treat the symptoms and expect to cure the disease, you must treat the cause. As a side effect, it also gives us a strong southern ally, and boosts the entire economy of the western hemisphere. You can’t just build a wall and contribute to the destruction of the environment through creating millions oft yards of concrete, by creating an impassable barrier for flora and fauna, by spending millions of taxpayer dollars and expect the problem to just “go away.”

This strange notion that isolationism is a good plan in any way in a modern world is ridiculous. It didn’t work for feudal Japan and it certainly won’t work in 2017. With each area we pull out of, with each foreign program we stop funding, Russia steps in. China steps in. Our rivals step in, and after America finally wakes up from its nap, we will find ourselves in a world where we are no longer a superpower and have no horse in the global race, with more powerful rivals on every side. I wasn’t a fan of TPP in its current form (and its the one thing I’ve agreed with President Trump on so far), but I acknowledge that denying it opens the door for China to dictate trade in the Pacific, and so reworking the TPP to be in the best interests of the people and not the corporations, while allowing the US to hold China’s interests in the Pacific off must happen. Globalization is happening and it cannot be stopped, only ignored to the detriment of the ignorant.

Anyway that got a bit out of hand, but yeah I agree.

I dig 'em.

You could fill a house with just these.

doubleofive said:

Spicer just announced that the wall would be paid for with a 20% tax on Mexican imports. Now I’m assuming that this means Mexicans importing American goods, but no one is stating it like that. They all say a tax on Mexican goods coming into the US. That would mean that American consumers would be paying for it…

I don’t think he even understands how economies work on a basic level.

doubleofive said:

TV’s Frink said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/01/26/in-his-first-major-tv-interview-as-president-trump-is-endlessly-obsessed-about-his-popularity/?utm_term=.2ee1e3fd9389

I’m not going to quote any of it because the entire thing is full of insanity and I’d have to quote it all. The man is a legitimate psychopath who has disconnected his brain from reality to protect himself from it. And we elected him president.

I came to post the exact thing with almost the exact words. Let me pull some choice quotes here:

“That speech was a home run,” Trump told ABC News just a few minutes into his first major television interview since moving into the White House. “See what Fox said. They said it was one of the great speeches. They showed the people applauding and screaming. … I got a standing ovation. In fact, they said it was the biggest standing ovation since Peyton Manning had won the Super Bowl, and they said it was equal. I got a standing ovation. It lasted for a long period of time.”

So his speech at the CIA with 350 people was the biggest standing ovation since February 2016 at a game with an attendance of 71,088.

“I would’ve won the popular vote if I was campaigning for the popular vote,” Trump said. “I would’ve gone to California, where I didn’t go at all. I would’ve gone to New York, where I didn’t campaign at all. I would’ve gone to a couple of places that I didn’t go to. And I would’ve won that much easier than winning the electoral college.”

Then why didn’t you do that?

“You have people that are registered who are dead, who are illegals,” said Trump, who has called for an investigation. “You have people registered in two states. They’re registered in New York and New Jersey. They vote twice. There are millions of votes, in my opinion.”

You’d think we’d be able to find more than 4 or 5 an election when the people who are paid to find these things look. And that they wouldn’t mostly be Republicans.

“You know,” Trump continued, “I always talk about the reporters that grovel when they want to write something that you want to hear, but not necessarily millions of people want to hear, or have to hear.”

That’s not what groveling is.

“We’re going to launch an investigation to find out,” Trump said. “And then the next time — and I will say this: Of those votes cast, none of them come to me. None of them come to me. They would all be for the other side. None of them come to me.”

Millions of fraudulent votes, and none for him? If they do an investigation and find that there was this huge fraud and EVERY SINGLE VOTE was for Hillary, its a scam designed to restrict minority voting perpetrated by his people.

“We had a massive crowd of people. We had a crowd. I looked over that sea of people and I said to myself: ‘Wow.’ And I’ve seen crowds before. Big, big crowds. That was some crowd. When I looked at the numbers that happened to come in from all of the various sources, we had the biggest audience in the history of inaugural speeches."
…
“Here’s a picture of the crowd,” the president explained to the nation he now leads. “Now, the audience was the biggest ever, but this crowd was massive. Look how far back it goes. This crowd was massive. And I would actually take that camera and take your time [scanning the crowd] if you want to know the truth.”

So Trump is doing what I said Spicer should have been more clear on; he’s making an important distinction between worldwide audience and the crowd that was gathered there. Of course, he is still harping on it when the media was complaining about Spicer’s half-truth, no one is going to deny that the crowd that did show up showed up.

JEDIT: From the VF piece:

“I think he has to say that. I’m just telling you there will be a payment. It will be a form, perhaps a complicated form.”

It could be any form. “Choose your Destructor” style? Or maybe it’ll be in the form of POG’s. I miss POG’s.

Absolute insanity from our President.

Good to hear. Hang in there.

Tyrphanax said:

TV’s Frink said:

Trump has his fingers in his ears over Russia but when it comes to conspiracy theories he’s all over it.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/25/politics/trump-calls-for-major-investigation-into-voter-fraud/index.html

I found the first case they can investigate!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/25/steve-bannon-voter-registration-trump-election-voter-fraud

In a pair of tweets early on Wednesday morning, Trump said that arrangements such as Bannon’s were unacceptable as he appeared to threaten a crackdown on access to the ballot box.

“I will be asking for a major investigation into VOTER FRAUD, including those registered to vote in two states, those who are illegal and … even, those registered to vote who are dead (and many for a long time). Depending on results, we will strengthen up voting procedures!” the president wrote.

And because I know it’ll be brought up:

It is not in itself illegal to be registered to vote in two states. It would be illegal to cast ballots in two different states. Many states have their own laws about who qualifies to register to vote in their elections, typically based on whether a person actually lives in a residence there.

But the fact that the President thinks it is makes it funny.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/316146-tiffany-trump-is-registered-to-vote-in-two-states-report

President Trump’s younger daughter, Tiffany Trump, is registered to vote in two different states, reports revealed Wednesday after her father categorized being registered in two states as “voter fraud.”

Oh dear.

Jetrell Fo said:

DominicCobb said:

Tyrphanax said:

TV’s Frink said:

Hahahahaha.

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-emails-rnc-reince-priebus-white-house-server-548191

Senior Trump administration staffers including Kellyanne Conway, Jared Kushner, Sean Spicer and Steve Bannon have active accounts on a Republican National Committee email system, Newsweek has learned.

The system (rnchq.org) is the same one the George W. Bush administration was accused of using to evade transparency rules after claiming to have “lost” 22 million emails.

Making use of separate political email accounts at the White House is not illegal. In fact, they serve a purpose by allowing staff to divide political conversations (say, arranging for the president to support a congressional re-election campaign) from actual White House work. Commingling politics and state business violates the Hatch Act, which restricts many executive branch employees from engaging in political activity on government time.

But after then-candidate Donald Trump and the Republicans repeatedly called for “locking up” Hillary Clinton for handling government work with a private server while secretary of state, the new White House staff risks repeating the same mistake that dogged the Democrat’s presidential campaign. They also face a security challenge: The RNC email system, according to U.S. intelligence, was hacked during the 2016 race. “They better be careful after making such a huge ruckus over the private email over at the State Department,” says former Bush administration lawyer Richard Painter.

Is this not the exact reason many people claimed to not be voting for Hillary? Am I wrong?

Donald Trump, the man who ran an entire campaign on how Hillary shouldn’t be president because of her private email server now has his very own private email server. But now it’s suddenly okay? Can anyone defend this?

Why am I not even a tiny bit surprised?

How can anyone be happy with how this presidency has been so far? It’s not even about policy anymore, this dickwad has been objectively bad in so many ways. The fact that those on the right will still defend shows how blindly partisan some are.

As far as I know, no-one has stated or found that this private server is in his home. They have to follow the Disclosure Rules set out in 2014 which is something that Hillary Clinton did not do so until something actually happens they are within the Governments own regulations on such matters.

Yeah, they’re just using the same system that “lost” twenty-two million emails during the Bush administration.

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) accused Bush White House staffers in 2007 of using the system to evade transparency.

The rnchq.org email system was involved in the loss of 22 million Bush administration emails, Newsweek reported, many from around the start of the Iraq War.

Former President Obama’s administration found the lost emails after private lawsuits were filed, it added.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/316130-trump-wh-senior-staff-have-private-email-accounts-report

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/01/23/trump-administration-brings-uncertainty-to-h-1b-visa-program/

This just in: Donald Trump has no idea what he’s doing.

At least when the economy is destroyed and Russia and China have eclipsed America on the world stage and control all trade and the global economy because we’ve pulled out of everything and into our little isolationist bubble (which worked out amazingly well for feudal Japan), there won’t be any dirty foreigners stealing jobs from hard workin’, honest Americans.

AP News said:
BREAKING: Trump administration mandating EPA scientific studies, data undergo review by political staff before public release.

Because that’s not a totalitarian move at all.

TV’s Frink said:

Trump has his fingers in his ears over Russia but when it comes to conspiracy theories he’s all over it.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/25/politics/trump-calls-for-major-investigation-into-voter-fraud/index.html

I found the first case they can investigate!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/25/steve-bannon-voter-registration-trump-election-voter-fraud

In a pair of tweets early on Wednesday morning, Trump said that arrangements such as Bannon’s were unacceptable as he appeared to threaten a crackdown on access to the ballot box.

“I will be asking for a major investigation into VOTER FRAUD, including those registered to vote in two states, those who are illegal and … even, those registered to vote who are dead (and many for a long time). Depending on results, we will strengthen up voting procedures!” the president wrote.

And because I know it’ll be brought up:

It is not in itself illegal to be registered to vote in two states. It would be illegal to cast ballots in two different states. Many states have their own laws about who qualifies to register to vote in their elections, typically based on whether a person actually lives in a residence there.

But the fact that the President thinks it is makes it funny.

Butch Trucks - 69

Everyone knows the Allman Brothers. Sad times.

DominicCobb said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

DominicCobb said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Jetrell Fo said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

EDIT: STUPID POST

There are no stupid posts here. If you need to get it out, get it out, no-one in this thread will heckle or taunt you for it.

😃

I wasn’t worried about heckling ot taunting, I just didn’t like it after posting it. It was a stupid post regardless of the potential eventual reaction to it.

To make a slightly less stupid post about the same point, let’s just say I often feel like I deserve a Mike Pence® Approved Shock Attack™.

EDIT: Okay, post just as stupid, but now thinly veiled in fake-ironic-humor and also slightly topical and current.

You don’t “deserve” anything but the right to be yourself (and for others to respect that).

There’s nothing wrong with whatever feelings you’re having anyone who says otherwise should just go fuck themselves.

The thing is, I don’t want to be myself, or not the self I am right now. I want to feel normal and not like a dirty infidel.

No, sorry coffee. You’re brain is telling you don’t want to be yourself because other people have convinced you that it is wrong. What you’re feeling is completely natural, the only thing unnatural is the desire to wish away those feelings.

I have a hard time trying to reconcile my Christianity with my homosexual tendencies, and I’d be a much happier person if I could get rid of the latter. But I can’t AFAIK, no matter how much I’ve prayed about it in the last few years, so alas…

I know a number of people who have been able to reconcile their religion with their homosexuality. It’s not impossible, you can do it. If people tell you it can’t be done, don’t listen to them. I know plenty of Christian people who are very accepting of homosexuality. It’s not impossible. If people make you feel bad for wanting what’s deep down, either stop associating with them or don’t listen to them. They don’t want what’s best for you, they just want what’s best for their view of the world.

I’m atheist, but I was raised Catholic and I understand how the faith operates.

It is important to remember that the bible was written by men, not by god, and that it was interpreted by men, not by god. Just because people say you have to believe a certain way doesn’t mean your god wants you to. God loves everyone, no? You say you’ve prayed for years with no response. Well maybe you did get a response? Maybe this is his way of showing you that you are meant to be this way.

In the end, maybe you’re not gay, you’re just bi. Or maybe you’re not into guys at all? The thing is, only YOU can be the one to find that out for yourself. You can’t let others tell you how you’re supposed to feel (in this matter and in others). That’s up to you.

Well said.

Jetrell Fo said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

DominicCobb said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Jetrell Fo said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

EDIT: STUPID POST

There are no stupid posts here. If you need to get it out, get it out, no-one in this thread will heckle or taunt you for it.

😃

I wasn’t worried about heckling ot taunting, I just didn’t like it after posting it. It was a stupid post regardless of the potential eventual reaction to it.

To make a slightly less stupid post about the same point, let’s just say I often feel like I deserve a Mike Pence® Approved Shock Attack™.

EDIT: Okay, post just as stupid, but now thinly veiled in fake-ironic-humor and also slightly topical and current.

You don’t “deserve” anything but the right to be yourself (and for others to respect that).

There’s nothing wrong with whatever feelings you’re having anyone who says otherwise should just go fuck themselves.

The thing is, I don’t want to be myself, or not the self I am right now. I want to feel normal and not like a dirty infidel. I have a hard time trying to reconcile my Christianity with my homosexual tendencies, and I’d be a much happier person if I could get rid of the latter. But I can’t AFAIK, no matter how much I’ve prayed about it in the last few years, so alas…

Okay, sorry for all the rambling. I’m in a bad mood tonight for several reasons, the others I won’t get into because they’re much longer stories.

I don’t know your personal battle with it because I am agnostic and a guy that is attracted to women. What I can say is this …

Only you can define yourself. As far as I know, most the gay friends I have, keep God in their life. They do not separate it because both are a part of who they are. You have support here even though we may not know everyone personally. We will listen and we will try to help you keep your head above water if you need it. Don’t beat yourself up. Stay true to yourself.

And most importantly … Be safe SC.

Yep. There’s certainly nothing wrong with you as far as I’m concerned, Coffee. Whether you’re straight and confused or bisexual or gay, that’s totally fine.

I myself am agnostic with heavy atheist leanings so I dunno if this will be helpful to you, but I hope that people within your church or religious convocation aren’t making you feel differently, because those things can coexist (if the religious part is important to you, at least). Maybe you can find a more accepting environment if the current one is more shame-based?

Either way, we’re all here at your side, and I (for one, and it sounds like Fo as well) accept you for exactly who you are. Keep in the fight, it gets better.

suspiciouscoffee said:

Perhaps it’ll pan down, already on the planet surface, but from looking up at the night sky to Rey still holding the saber to Luke several hours later.

“WILL YOU PLEASE TAKE THIS DAMN SABER?!”

lol it’s fun to have a hateful, divided country! Haha wheee! Let’s all sling shit and get nothing done, that’ll be fun! Nothing in the world is serious! I did it for the pepe lulz! Le master troll!

It’s fairly obvious once you connect the plans where they show several polar trenches and then zoom in on one.

I was dumb when I was young, what can I say?