Tyrphanax

Jetrell Fo said:

With the FBI still having 1,000 open investigations on the books (which has also been made public and mentioned by me numerous times) makes it just as tough and those were set up based on the previous administrations policy.

Don’t you think we should finish getting these investigations finished before creating a far bigger back log?

I looked for a while tonight and couldn’t find an article about thousands of open investigations at the FBI… on immigrants? On potential immigrants? If you have a link, I’ll take a look at it (bonus points if it’s from the FBI itself). But if the FBI is suspicious of someone, I assume the case stays open until they find solid evidence one way or another. It’s tough to close a case (and I’d say that’s a good thing), especially if the person you’re suspicious about hasn’t really shown up on the radar yet.

One mug of Twinnings English Breakfast Tea. It’s very nice.

Jetrell Fo said:

Tyrphanax said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Tyrphanax said:

TV’s Frink said:

SEE YOU IN COURT, THE SECURITY OF OUR NATION IS AT STAKE!

https://twitter.com/ProduKtJRG/status/829839180897406977?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

@realDonaldTrump you have over 3000 pending lawsuits. Everyone has seen you in court.

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/829846842150096896

I’m no Hillary fan, but brutal.

Here’s the full decision:
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3457898/2-9-17-9th-Circuit-Order.pdf

Here’s an important bit from it:

The States argue that the Executive Order violates the Establishment and Equal Protection Clauses because it was intended to disfavor Muslims. In support of this argument, the States have offered evidence of numerous statements by the President about his intent to implement a “Muslim ban” as well as evidence they claim suggests that the Executive Order was intended to be that ban, including sections 5(b) and 5(e) of the Order. It is well established that evidence of purpose beyond the face of the challenged law may be considered in evaluating Establishment and Equal Protection Clause claims.

Of course what is overlooked is the fact that the list was created during and by the Obama administration. I am not in favor of a Muslim Ban. I do think our vetting system is broken when it comes to obtaining real information for the investigations they use for vetting.

Creating a list of countries to keep an eye on because they are of greater risk than others for terrorist threats and taking steps towards creating a ban against people from predominantly Muslim countries are two very different things.

Something else not accounted for. The FBI has already stated publicly that large numbers of these refugees aren’t even native to said countries on the list they say they come from so they cannot get the proper information to clear them via the process.

That’s exactly what the Obama-era bills did: applied greater scrutiny to visas and travelers to and from the seven countries named, whether they were from that country or not, whether they were from a country with a visa waiver or not (so someone from the US or Canada traveling to Syria or Yemen would be watched more closely upon trying to enter the US). It didn’t try to ban people outright based on their citizenship (or perhaps religion, if taken far enough) like Trump’s Executive Order would.

Jetrell Fo said:

Tyrphanax said:

TV’s Frink said:

SEE YOU IN COURT, THE SECURITY OF OUR NATION IS AT STAKE!

https://twitter.com/ProduKtJRG/status/829839180897406977?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

@realDonaldTrump you have over 3000 pending lawsuits. Everyone has seen you in court.

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/829846842150096896

I’m no Hillary fan, but brutal.

Here’s the full decision:
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3457898/2-9-17-9th-Circuit-Order.pdf

Here’s an important bit from it:

The States argue that the Executive Order violates the Establishment and Equal Protection Clauses because it was intended to disfavor Muslims. In support of this argument, the States have offered evidence of numerous statements by the President about his intent to implement a “Muslim ban” as well as evidence they claim suggests that the Executive Order was intended to be that ban, including sections 5(b) and 5(e) of the Order. It is well established that evidence of purpose beyond the face of the challenged law may be considered in evaluating Establishment and Equal Protection Clause claims.

Of course what is overlooked is the fact that the list was created during and by the Obama administration. I am not in favor of a Muslim Ban. I do think our vetting system is broken when it comes to obtaining real information for the investigations they use for vetting.

Creating a list of countries to keep an eye on because they are of greater risk than others for terrorist threats and taking steps towards creating a ban against people from predominantly Muslim countries are two very different things.

TV’s Frink said:

SEE YOU IN COURT, THE SECURITY OF OUR NATION IS AT STAKE!

https://twitter.com/ProduKtJRG/status/829839180897406977?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

@realDonaldTrump you have over 3000 pending lawsuits. Everyone has seen you in court.

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/829846842150096896

I’m no Hillary fan, but brutal.

Here’s the full decision:
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3457898/2-9-17-9th-Circuit-Order.pdf

Here’s an important bit from it:

The States argue that the Executive Order violates the Establishment and Equal Protection Clauses because it was intended to disfavor Muslims. In support of this argument, the States have offered evidence of numerous statements by the President about his intent to implement a “Muslim ban” as well as evidence they claim suggests that the Executive Order was intended to be that ban, including sections 5(b) and 5(e) of the Order. It is well established that evidence of purpose beyond the face of the challenged law may be considered in evaluating Establishment and Equal Protection Clause claims.

Holy crap I just had the “lightsaber ruined Yoda as a character” discussion the other day with someone else who liked it.

Howwwwwwwwwwww.

Possessed said:

Tyrphanax said:

Digging these rational debates tonight, guys!

…
Hi Tyrphanax! =)

Pathetic failed musician “Possessed” thinks he can win big by trashing me. WRONG! Major lies. “Possessed” is FAKE NEWS! Very sad!

Handman said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Handman said:

In addition, the new trend of not wearing socks with shoes is stupid.

Where on Earth is that a new trend? LOL

Certain “hip” subcultures. I see bare ankles between pants and sneakers and it’s just odd.

Yeah, I’m not down with that. It works with shorts, though. And at the pool.

Possessed said:

Darth Id said:

ray_afraid said:

It would be cool to play the remakes of Ocarina and Majora too.

Interestingly, both have been subtly Lucas-ified with each iteration.
The sublimely creepy music in the epic Fire Temple of OoT was replaced for the GCN version due to some paranoid imagining of offense to like some Sufi mystics that were sampled in the original soundtrack.
Also, the terrifyingly atmospheric black streaks-and-splatter from OoT’s torture chamber in the haunted mini-temple were scrubbed for the 3DS version due to being too awesomely frightening and disturbing.
I forget what got modified in MM for the moment…
In other words: you’re too late to enjoy the Pure Original True Version™.

Actually the change with the fire temple music happened when it was still on the n64. Iirc by the time they stopped printing the gold cartridges and went to the standard grey cartridges it had already been changed. They also censored ganondorfs blood for some reason.

Yeah, the 1.0 (gold and grey) and 1.1 (grey and very rarely gold; I grew up with this one) versions of the cart are uncensored, but come the 1.2 (grey only) they censored the Fire Temple theme (which had a section of a Muslim prayer in it: Nintendo did this themselves without being pushed) to some lame thing that sounds like the Shadow Temple and Ganon/Ganondorf’s blood to green from red.

The Gamecube version is 1.2 but also changed the Gerudo symbol (on the Mirror Shield, switches, push blocks, and signs in Gerudo Fortress) from the crescent and star (also for Muslim reasons) to the symbol used in Majora’s Mask. They also scrubbed up the Shadow Temple and the Bottom of the Well, which were bloody and torture/death themed (which was cool, dangit!), but that might also have been the 3DS version…

Possessed said:

Tyrphanax said:

Digging these rational debates tonight, guys!

…
Hi Tyrphanax! =)

Is this when I attack your character?

DominicCobb said:

joefavs said:

I’m picking up a pervasive mindset here that the best way to go is to outright reject anything you don’t like, and I dig that that works for many of you, but I really don’t feel the need to do that with the current canon. I understand where you’re all coming from, because the NJO books absolutely didn’t jibe with what Star Wars is for me and I never felt comfortable “counting” them, but honestly nothing that’s official right now has been objectionable enough for me to cut it out. I know most of you aren’t keeping up with new books and/or comics (except maybe Haseo) and so you have little incentive to invest in the official version of canon, but one of the things I enjoy about Star Wars is that there’s always more of it, and part of that bargain is allowing the duds to exist on the timeline. I find it much easier to just acknowledge that AOTC happened even though it sucked than it is to perform the mental gymnastics required to make it all hang together when some comic references the events of that film. Doesn’t mean I’m going to start watching it all the time, but I’m fine with it occupying a point in the chronology. Part of what draws me to these sorts of sprawling sci-fi/fantasy epics is the convoluted history of it all; I get a certain amount of joy just from the way things fit together that’s separate from my opinion of the individual things. I guess what I’m trying to say is that rolling with the official canon doesn’t necessarily have to equal jumping through hoops to make yourself love everything Lucasfilm puts its stamp on.

I totally feel this.

As I said

I don’t really have a personal canon of what I think really “happened” but I do have certain pieces of SW that I like and certain pieces that I don’t. There is a distinction between the two concepts.

So there are certain SW things that I like and some that I don’t, but I don’t have any desire to make a “personal canon” out of them. Is there any chance something like Labyrinth of Evil and the original Marvel run really happened in the same continuity? Unlikely, but I don’t really care.

When it comes to canon I have no issue accepting the “official” one. Just because the prequels aren’t great movies doesn’t mean I have to strip them from the franchise entirely and scoff off any new material that references them. When Darth Vader formed an army of battle droids I thought, who cares? that’s pretty cool. Honestly, if people had never seen the offending films the concept of Vader rebooting an old army of droids would have jazzed nearly everyone.

I can accept the idea that all the new EU works are beholden to the facts and events of each other and I think that makes them interesting as it adds another layer to the proceedings. But trying to create a personal canon just doesn’t work for me, as then it really just feels like I’m trying to force another layer on where there wasn’t one before. This is obviously egregious when you’re reading something like those early Marvel books, but it still applies to something like Labyrinth of Evil. I mean, sure, I don’t think there’s much in there that’s contradicted by anything new, but the fact of the matter is it wasn’t written as beholden to this new continuity.

I’m definitely not explaining this well, but to be clear I don’t mean to say I care more about “official” canon stories. As I said, there are things I like and things I don’t and that has nothing to do with canon. The thing is that canon is just whatever the writers of a story were beholden to. And the truth is that the original six films were beholden to nothing but themselves and each other (mostly), and TCW was beholden to only the films, so they lay a solid framework for the new EU. The old EU was beholden to many different things, depending on the work. There was the original Marvel run, that was beholden to the film(s), but then there were plenty of other pieces of media that felt no need to be beholden to the details of that Marvel run at all. The key difference with the new EU being that every piece of media, from that framework on, is beholden to each other, which really is quite an interesting (and fun) thing.

Yup.

Possessed said:

I’m never on the side advocating for flip flops on men, regardless of the issue or how sensible it might be.

Agreed. Only acceptable at the pool and if you have nothing else.

This.

Digging these rational debates tonight, guys!

dahmage said:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/army-grant-easement-dakota-access-pipeline/story?id=45330548

trump doesn’t think the pipeline is controversial. Can any reasonable person justify that line of “thinking”?

Exactly what I was talking about before. I just can’t even wrap my head around it anymore.

My theory is that Frink was right and Trump never actually wanted to be President, and now that he’s faced with the gravity and responsibility of the position, he’s becoming more reclusive and lashing out more. As it becomes more and more clear he has no idea what he’s doing and no plan and doesn’t realize he can’t just make everything happen magically.

Frankly, he sounds depressed.

Sougouk said:

Actually, no matter how good OOT is, there’s nothing like playing the 3 Zelda CD-I games! Hehehe

lol

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2017/02/07/trump-makes-false-statement-about-u-s-murder-rate-to-sheriffs-group/

Trump told the sheriffs, “the murder rate in our country is the highest it’s been in 47 years.” He blamed the news media for not publicizing this development, then added, “But the murder rate is the highest it’s been in, I guess, 45 to 47 years.”

The country’s murder rate is not the highest it’s been in 47 years. It is almost at its lowest point, actually, according to the FBI, which gathers statistics every year from police departments around the country.

Why? Why does he do this? Why does he lie when we all know the truth? What is wrong with him? Can someone who supports him please explain to me why he lies about this stuff? Does he not know? Does he not care? Is there an agenda here? If he’s not intentionally lying why does he shoot his mouth off like this? If he’s running an ostensibly pro-gun administration, why say something like this that is not only patently false, but also has the potential to hurt the pro-gun platform you’re standing on?

Darth Id said:

Bingowings said:

Choose the Force. Choose a brown bath robe. Choose a life of contemplative solitude. Choose not to have a family. Choose a laser sword, choose bleeping robots, airspeeders, stolen data tapes and tractor beam controls. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and being a mentor to the son of the guy you left limbless and slowly cooking on the side of a lava lake. Choose a stupid rat tail mullet for the peak years of your career. Choose a hovel, Choose your friends. Choose mind tricks and matching lies. Choose a trip to Alderaan for almost the price of starship. Choose a rubbish alias and wondering if you ever owned a droid and where you put that lightsaber you pinched off that friend you left for dead. Choose sitting on that commode chair watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing senate and council meetings, stuffing jawa juice down your neck. Choose fading away at the end of it all, pishing your last as a ghost in a swamp, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, freak faced, big eared gnome-thing written into the sequel to replace yourself.

Choose your future.

Choose the Force.

I choose not to choose the Force.

I chose something else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you’ve got death sticks?

Apparently I’ve neglected this thread for a year, so never saw this.
But since it got no appreciation at the time, I’m gonna award it the Better-Late-Than-Never Darth Id’s Comment of the Year (2016)!
Well done WinduBeans! Come on down to the Spice Outlet of Kessel to claim your prize!

p.s. the Begbie shtick was funny, too. I really missed out.

I’m not sure if this was brought up at the time, but at the end of the credits of the Star Wars: Obi-Wan game for the original Xbox, the (awful) voice actor they got for Obi-Wan gives the Trainspotting monologue in Star Wars format as well.

TV’s Frink said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/07/us/politics/betsy-devos-education-secretary-confirmed.html?_r=0

“Eh, fuck the children of this country, I’m a Republican and the guy pretending to be a Republican wants her, so good enough for me!”

This is the dilemma of having McCain as Senator. Once in awhile he does something neat, and then he shits on it a day later. It’s a rollercoaster.

Then you sometimes drop something like this and I go “Huh, never would have guessed.”

I heard “The Ubiquitous Mr. Lovegrove” on the radio here the other day. Never expected that, but it’s a weird independent station.

DominicCobb said:

Tyrphanax said:

DominicCobb said:

It just makes sense. Cheap 2D animation always looks better than cheap 3D. CW03 is the most recent 2D SW animated. Simple math.

Yeah but the 2D one looked like ass.

Well yeah, and one hot piece of ass at that.

No, Dom. Like. The not good kind of ass.

DominicCobb said:

It just makes sense. Cheap 2D animation always looks better than cheap 3D. CW03 is the most recent 2D SW animated. Simple math.

Yeah but the 2D one looked like ass.

DominicCobb said:

The 03 CW is probably the best looking of all the SW animated shows, oddly. All the others just look too cheap.

Looks like you got that backwards, buddy.

Lord Haseo said:

Tyrphanax said:

Rebels and Clone Wars look nothing alike, so having the same lightsabers isn’t even a big issue.

Personally, I like the visual styling of Rebels much more than TCW.

I’m talking about the CGI show not the older one.

Me too.

I guess I’m talking about both, really. The older one looks worse though. I try not to think about it because it was so bad, though.

DominicCobb said:

Sisters actually.

That’s what I thought.