TylerDurden389

http://vimeo.com/136391005

Gonna have something up later tonight. It won't be a completed scene but it'll have *some* sound effects :)

Ok, I did a few test videos today. The first I'm on the fence about which one to go with. Opinions MUCH appreciated.

http://vimeo.com/136322059

http://vimeo.com/136322060

http://vimeo.com/136322061

And lastly, one I am sure about. Hope you guys like it.

http://vimeo.com/136326397

I could kick myself for not seeing this as a kid. Rocky 4 has always been my favorite movie, mostly due to Vince's score. It'll always be my favorite movie soundtrack, but Vince has so much more free reign here. I remember when I first saw the movie 10 years ago, the first thing I did afterwards was play songs from Transformers while playing Rocky 4 on tv muted, just to see how the songs sync up (Drago and Unicron's themes being a good example).

Yes and no. I watch "Superman Redeemed" when I want my fix of evil Supes and Nuclear Man ;)

Eh, another "get outta jail free card". Jor-el uses further magic powers to get Superman outta a jam. I can forgive it for him getting his super-powers back, but not to reverse time and do the very thing he warned his son against in the first film.

I've been using the "Lois knows his identity and is fine with it" ending that I came up with 5-8 years ago (and that other editors have begun using as well) as my "go-to" ending and haven't looked back since.

jedimasterobiwan said:

yeah but he just released his idea for the ending did you see that?

 Sure did.

jedimasterobiwan said:

this is the superman 2 i'd like to see Selutron's Superman II here's link to youtube searches:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=superman+2+selutron

 A little late to the party Jedi. Selutron has been well known amongst both the Superman film fans and the fan editors around here since he first started posting those videos back in 2006 lol.

I have an unreleased fan edit of Superman 2 that I made that does use a lot of Selutron's clips. Though I did some revisions of my own to bridge certain clips together.

Molly said:

Not bad, not bad at all. The title part could use a little work, but well, it is just a rough draft.

My weird suggestion: I think it would look better with at least most of the As flipped around to slant the other way.

 Thanks. I gotta learn zome animation with a real video editing program so that the zoom works better. I did notice the A's pointing in the wrong direction. I have a few other Terminator fonts, so I'll see if any of the other ones do it right but if not, then I don't mind.

Here's another rough-cut /blueprint preview. This is how my opening credits will play out. I used the T2 teaser trailer that shows the T-101 being built in the factory.

Please forgive the changes in AR as I'm using various sources and sometimes the AR just changes on it's own for some reason. Also please forgive the abrupt cuts between shots. I need to learn a little animation to fix those parts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKYGHCpqwuc&feature=youtu.be

TV's Frink said:

TylerDurden389 said:

Don't know why I can't add links, sorry you guys will have to copy and paste to see.

 Delete the "s" from https.

 Thanks!!

Booshman said:

Hey Tyler.  I watched T2 a few weeks ago with some mates.  We all agreed that Sarah's monologues could do with removal. A lot of the time she's just stating stuff you can get from watching what's going on anyway. Any chance you can cut some or all of these? 

 Oh you know it. I already downloaded the "Terminator word font" to overlay into the video. My edit of T2 will open EXACTLY as T1 with text giving us Sarah's opening monologue about Judgement Day, and her ending monologue that tells us what skynet did and plan to do (The computers that control the machines, skynet, sent 2 terminators back through time...it was just a matter of which reaches him first).

The ending monologue will be completely removed, as I plan to end my edit either on Sarah's close-up with John crying in her arms (simple fade to black), or the final shot of the Terminator's chip /POV going black/shorting out. Seeing as how the end of the movie with her narration was added last minute anyway, I was always off-put by this ending even when I first saw the film in theaters at 7 years old. My honest, 7 year old impression was "Why am I seeing this part with the road again? What the heck is Sarah talking about?"

The narration with her watching John teaching the Terminator gestures "In an insane world, it was the sanest choice") will be either edited somewhat or removed entirely. Since I'm using music and re-doing most of the sound effects, continuity will not be a problem. I could very well take that part out entirely since all we really need to move the plot forward is see the terminator get the truck engine working. However, my only problem I can foresee ATM is the Terminator's final thumbs up at the end of the film, as we see John teaching it how to do that during Sarah's narration. As much as I wanna keep it in for continuity's sake during those final shots, it's just...so...damn....forced, and cheesy.

As for her other narration when the terminator tells Dyson about the future....I'm still shrugging my shoulders on that one. See, we can't hear what the terminator is saying under Sarah's narration, and I feel using more text is out of place, as it would be the only other time my edit of the movie would use it. Already I'm just thinking "Ah, screw it. That 1 narration can stay", but don't worry, Dyson's "throw up" line will not. For as good as Cameron can be with humor, making a joke about the near-end of mankind and the total end of civilization is not where it belongs. TBH, the forced humor in this movie is one of my main reasons for doing this edit. Followed in a close 2nd by the forced social commentary.

Though I gotta admit, after making my first draft of this before seeing Avatar, T2's social message pales in comparison lol.

Glad you liked some of the clips.

Notice the different sound effects for the guns in this special:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlG79Q45eRY

MrBrown, can you post some of those shots where the color is so muted that it's practically black and white, as well some of the moments where the color timing changes completely from shot to shot?

And here's another one I did that I'm on the fence about music-wise, but I like the way I've edited this scene, as the original is full of goofs. The fact that they were going fast on the motorcycle and shouldn't have been anywhere near the truck when it exploded notwithstanding, there also a shot of the tunnel/duct where they're not there at all. It's funny how a bad edit like this has never once been criticized by anyone before.

So here's my way of trying to fix this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fgNTubuCD0

Hey guys, a long while back I made a small fan edit of T2 called “The 80’s edition” where I removed the “bad to the bone” music and replaced it with the terminator’s “theme” from the first movie whenever he’s walking around and stuff. I also did various trimmings where I removed the whole “you can’t kill people” angle, as well as the whole “it’s in your nature to destroy yourself” stuff, and of course, the terminator learning why people cry, and talking jive. Overall I was able to get the film down to exactly 2 hours. Oh, and I replaced Guns N’ Roses with Van Halen’s song “Judgement Day”, which came out the very same year as T2. My edit never got outta the “unapproved” section of fanedit.org, and then it was lost when the site was given a major re-work.

Well, the pilot light’s back on and I’m ready to tackle this again. This time I plan on using a german dvd of the film that doesn’t have as much of the blanket blue color timing (some scenes still have it and I’ll be editing it or using alternate sources as I must have like 6 different T2 dvds as this point), I’m redoing the entire soundtrack using his 80’s inspired synth music called “New-retrowave”, rebuilding all new sound effects so that this movie sounds more like a sequel to T1 (doing the opposite of what they did for the 5.1 mix of T1 to make it sound more like T2), and I might even give the movie a used vhs-tape look and sound to it.

I don’t have a cutlist ATM as I don’t remember what was trimmed and removed the first time I did this, but for now, here’s some VERY ROUGH edits I’ve put together real quick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNXaUCbbXG4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeUKTrvfpBE

The Aluminum Falcon said:

Bit confused. Did this project or an updated HD version of Booshman's edit ever come to fruition? 

I got the urge to revisit the Christopher Reeves Superman films recently and remembered that both commercial BDs of II are unsatisfying in different degrees. 

 Booshman is still working in his HD remake of 2. He also worked on fixing up the color timing for the blu-rays for parts 3 and 4, so the HD edit of 2 has been sidetracked for a while now.

There's a Drafthouse in Yonkers, NY, but I live in south Brooklyn and the last thing I wanna do is ride the train through the Bronx and Harlem late at night on my way home after the movie lol. Another one is gonna open in Williamsburg soon (hopefully by the end of the year). I've been excited for years now, but thankfully for now I have Nitehawk Cinema in the same neighborhood, and during the summer they play a lot of 80's movies outdoors here in NYC. Last week I watched Terminator at Coney Island. Sure it was a digital projection of the blu-ray but w/e it was still great seeing it on a big screen.

Die Hard, Back to the Future, and The Matrix are on my list this summer. As well as a personal childhood favorite of mine, Flight of the Navigator.

I still have my 2 disc copy (in NTSC format, not PAL) that I paid for (and paid quite a bit I must say) back in 2003. The cover art didn't take up the entire paper though, so there's white borders on all sides on both the front and the back. But I didn't care. I was just so happy to finally have the version of Superman 2 that I grew up with, which to me will always be the most complete version. Not a Lester cut or a Donner cut. An almost perfect 50/50 between what each director shot. Remove Lester's humor and put Brando back in, and it's the perfect film. THAT'S what I, as well as many other fans wanted when we wrote in to WB all those years, clamoring for the footage to be released.

Love that shot of Arnie standing over Furlong. Not a hint of blue to be found. Guess I was wrong when I said that only the daytime scenes have a neutral color timing.

Pretty sure I remember reading somewhere that most movies on videotape were given a warm push due to something with the color of the tube CRT tvs of the time. Either way, it looks like Cameron was a pioneer for modern day teal color timing on film. He did that ish decades before it became the standard.

I said it a while back either on this board or another one but regarding terminator, I no longer say "The original color timing", instead I say "the vhs/dvd color timing" lol. I guess being a product of the 80's and home video in general, I will simply just always prefer neutral color to film. I don't even like that the Matrix has green color whenever they're plugged in. Yeah, it's within the context of the film, I still don't care lol.

Don't worry Dark Jedi, even if the new remastered blu actually is accurate to the original print, I still prefer your version. I must've watched it at least 12 times in the past 3-4 months since first getting it :)

Was the post someone sent me for a copy of that on Germany's ebay removed? Or did I talk about this another post? No joke, I talk about these movies and the color timing on at least 2 other message boards lol.

Ugh, the thought of simply searching ebay from other countries never occurred to me lol.

The seller of the German vcl Terminator 1 got back to me: "Sorry, no overseas shipping"

Ah well, TBH I'm more interested in seeing if there's any video release with the color timing I've seen in a few videos on youtube where the picture was very, very bright, and had more of a gray color to it. The 2 scenes I remember seeing in these clips were when Kyle runs out of the alleyway and onto the streets (after getting away from the cops and taking their shotgun), and the scenes in the parking lot from when they drive in, to when they get in the 2nd car and Kyle tells Sarah about her son.