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#931420
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Is it really about historical novelty?
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I look at it the same way young George Lucas looked at it:

George Lucas said:

A copyright is held in trust by its owner until it ultimately reverts to public domain. American works of art belong to the American public; they are part of our cultural history.
People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an exercise of power are barbarians, and if the laws of the United States continue to condone this behavior, history will surely classify us as a barbaric society.

It will soon be possible to create a new “original” negative with whatever changes or alterations the copyright holder of the moment desires. The copyright holders, so far, have not been completely diligent in preserving the original negatives of films they control. In order to reconstruct old negatives, many archivists have had to go to Eastern bloc countries where American films have been better preserved.
In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be “replaced” by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten.

The public’s interest is ultimately dominant over all other interests. And the proof of that is that even a copyright law only permits the creators and their estate a limited amount of time to enjoy the economic fruits of that work.

Attention should be paid to this question of our soul, and not simply to accounting procedures. Attention should be paid to the interest of those who are yet unborn, who should be able to see this generation as it saw itself, and the past generation as it saw itself.

The original Star Wars trilogy is an incredibly important part of cinematic history and it most certainly deserves to be preserved in its original form. To alter the films and then intentionally suppress them in their original form is not only selfish but an insult to the many, many craftsman that all worked hard to create these treasured pieces of history. They’re what won all of those Academy Awards, not the Special Editions. The SEs have their place but even more so do the original theatrical versions.

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#930489
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Last movie seen
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Smithers said:

The Amazing Spiderman (2012): C+

Every time I watch the amazing spiderman movies my opinion changes, they’re such a mixed bag. The movie really starts to fall apart in the third act when Dr. Connors becomes “crazy” for no apparent reason and wanted to turn everyone into Lizards. I wish they kept the villain relatable and not ridiculous.

On the other hand, the romance is good, the drama is great and there are many fantastic scenes sprinkled throughout. The movie really is a mixed bag

You should check out the Organic Eggs fanedit of TASM. It re-incorporates a lot of missing scenes and stuff that was cut for reshoots.

I honestly don’t understand Marc Webb as an editor. Both of his Spider-man movies suffer from too much cutting and reshoots. Both films were perfectly fine in their original form but then he’d go back and reshoot entire sections and cut out most of the good character motivations/moments. It felt like he was trying to sabotage his own films but it’s more likely he suffered from heavy studio interference.

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#930215
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Ranking the Star Wars films
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You know all this talk has me thinking about alternative endings for TFA.

First of all you ditch the SKB immediately. Incredibly lazy rehash that’d already been rehashed in the last film.

Instead you shift the focus exclusively back to Luke. It’s a race to see who can find him first.

Rey is never captured. She makes it back to the Resistance. Meanwhile, the First Order manage to capture Luke and so the last part of the film is a rescue mission.

That or Rey and Luke are both captured, escape their cells independently, and then team up to escape the base while the Resistance makes their own assault.

Just something other than the tired mega-weapon AGAIN.

That said, my ranked list would go as follows:
Star Wars
The Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi
The Force Awakens
The Caravan of Courage
The Battle for Endor
The Holiday Special

Jedit: Just came up with a better solution.

We keep the film more or less the same. But instead of the SKB the dilemma is instead about going on an unsactioned rescue mission for Rey.

Rey is captured but Leia can’t openly sanction a rescue mission as it would be seen as provoking the First Order and Rey isn’t valuable enough to justify it.

So instead Finn, Han and Chewie decide to strike out on their own to rescue her.

Once they arrive the film can play out more or less how it did. Except that once they’re there they find a secret experimental craft or fleet or biological weapon or something and that becomes the justification for destroying the base before they leave.

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#929488
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Ranking the Batman films
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Lord Haseo said:

Sure doesn’t look like Batman to me. Especially with the lip puckering thing he did.

The only time he looked a bit intimidating is when they had his face obscured by shadows. He had a nice Bat voice though.

But compare him to Bale in terms of looks and you’ll see how silly and wrong he was for the role.

I agree, Bale was silly and wrong for the role! But seriously, they should have fired the costume designer on that series. They never bothered to give him nose holes to breath through so Bale constantly made weird faces while breathing through his mouth creating a weird nasally gravel voice. He looked and sounded ridiculous.

At least Keaton had class.

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#929007
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Star Wars: Rogue One - * Non Spoiler Discussion Thread *
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I wish people would stop bringing up Disney when they discuss Star Wars. Yes Disney owns them but Lucasfilm is left to make the vast majority of decisions on their own.

People don’t blame Yum! Brands when KFC decides to switch up its menu. And this isn’t an issue with Marvel Studios so I don’t know why others persist on doing so with Star Wars.

If one is curious about the direction Star Wars is headed bring up Kathleen Kennedy and the Lucasfilm Story Group. They’re the ones piloting the ship.