Honestly don’t give two toots if some people decide to go out of their way to take offense at such a term. It’s a descriptor for a type of character. Wesley Crusher was a Mary Sue.
I really don’t see the point of denying that TFA sucks…
Well there I’d disagree. It has a lot of bad elements but overall it’s still fun enough to overlook most of them. But the Starkiller is unforgivable.
Anyway, we’ve probably spent enough time on this TFA tangent.
How about that Tie Striker, eh?
Most of her maneuvers could be considered luck (or perhaps Ben would say the will of the Force guiding her) and are done with little precision.
You must have been watching a different chase than what I saw.
I mean it’s there in SW but it doesn’t change anything, he still does everything he sets out to do and never makes a mistake.
He gets his butt handed to him twice. First by a couple Tusken Raiders and then by a drunk.
He charges into the detention block with no exit plan and has to be saved by the quick thinking of the Princess.
He blasts the bridge controls trapping them on a cliff.
He almost gets them all killed when he shouts after Ben’s death.
He misses multiple times in the gun turret of the Falcon before he finally gets the hang of it.
He didn’t just get hit during the Death Star battle, that Tie had him locked on and Luke could not shake him. He would have died right there and then if not for Wedge. And again, he almost fried himself at the start.
Meanwhile, Rey readily takes down multiple attackers with a melee weapon. And is a deadshot that never misses once she’s given a blaster.
How come y’all have a problem with this but not Luke’s expert piloting and his ability to use the force to target a laser torpedo into a narrow exhaust port with like ten minutes of training from Ben?
Edit: the only difference between the two characters that would make Rey a "Mary Sue " but not Luke is that Rey is a girl, and it’s really hard to pretend otherwise.
At the beginning of the film he’s shown playing with a model of his T-16 while his full size ship is in the background:
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He tells Han, “I’m not such a bad pilot myself.”
He mentions during the briefing his experience with his T-16.
Although cut from the theatrical release, Luke is questioned about his piloting skill and Biggs vouches for him, “Sir, Luke is the best bushpilot in the Outer Rim territories.” This scene would later be reinstated in the SE.
As for expert piloting, in the opening moments of the battle Luke almost kills himself after flying too close to the surface.
Later he’s almost killed by a Tie Fighter until Wedge swoops in and saves him.
Luke is a flawed character that makes mistakes.
Rey on the other hand, never makes a mistake and is the best at everything she tries.
That’s the difference between the two.
IIRC, the simulation was on a data chip, it wasn’t a full setup.
So you’re saying her flight training was the equivalent of playing this on an old laptop.
Well no wonder she was an ace pilot. /s
What’s his face earlier was no doubt sexist in tone, but there really is no denying that Rey was a legitimate Mary Sue.
I don’t count her fight against Ren because she did have some experience with melee weapons, and as noted earlier, severely injured both physically and emotionally at the time. My last point above could be explained away in a future film but as it stands. The way she was presented in this film alone, she qualifies for that classification.
That said, I’m immensely looking forward to Rogue One and have no real misgivings about it.
Looks like something I should check out. The Captain looks strange in red though.
Finally getting around to adding:
Passengers
So, the year is almost out. What were your favorite SciFi films of the year?
I seem to vaguely recall there being a behind the scenes featurette where they discuss recreating the Tantive corridor and that they made it way whiter than it originally was at George’s request. The reason its not the Tantive in canon though is that the design of the exterior is different from that of the classic Blockade Runner.
Frink will most definitely be getting a visit from Zeke the Plumber…
They’re in the midst of working on a TNG-ALIENS crossover as we speak.
Nope. I can attest to the fact that Nickelodeon’s programming has plummeted in quality over the years. Pretty much all kid’s programming has. Cartoon Network is just about the last bastion of quality programming for the younger set.
Ooo, that’s looking great.
George was obsessed with her for a now cancelled Darth Maul game set post-ROTJ. I wonder if this is a remnant from his treatment for Episode VII.
They still pull that stuff in classes. Except they’re pixelated, heavily compressed videos ripped off the internet.
Movies in class is so fetch!
He’s afraid to go into the fan edit section because he believes Lucasfilm is monitoring it to steal his ideas.
You don’t have a local comic shop? Personally, I’ve moved to all digital collecting. It’s super convenient, if you want a comic you can get it in seconds. Also, panel view is addicting and you save so much physical space not having to store stacks of books. Comixology is the best.
You never know, this could be a good thing. My outlook for the show really soured after the alien redesign comment debacle.
Edit: Nevermind, the guy that wrote the Schumacher Batman films is coming aboard now.
Doctor Who: The Third Doctor #1-2
Absolutely loving this mini-series. With fantastic art and pitch perfect dialogue, it encapsulates everything that is great about the Third Doctor’s era.
They’re not scared of Old Ben, that’s why he imitated the cry of an animal they are afraid of. Also why he quickly warns Luke:
BEN
I think we better get indoors. The Sand People are easily startled but they will soon be back and in greater numbers.
You are honestly probably one of a very select few on the planet to be confused by this simple scene.
Jedit: As for your royalties theory. The original sound is a modified version of the Dewback roar that we hear during the “Look sir, droids!” scene. Which is still in the film.
Spaced Invaders (1990)
A Halloween classic!
Last night!
You realize we have access to the script right?
EXT. TATOOINE – ROCK CANYON – FLOOR – DAY
Artoo forces himself into the shadows of a small alcove in the rocks as the vicious Sand People walk past carrying the inert Luke Skywalker, who is dropped in a heap before the speeder. The Sand People ransack the speeder, throwing parts and supplies in all directions. Suddenly they stop. Then everything is quiet for a few moments. A great howling moan is heard echoing throughout the canyon which sends the Sand People fleeing in terror.
Artoo moves even tighter into the shadows as the slight swishing sound that frightened off the Sand People grows even closer, until a shabby old desert-rat-of-a-man appears and leans over Luke. His ancient leathery face, cracked and weathered by exotic climates is set off by dark, penetrating eyes and a scraggly white beard. Ben Kenobi squints his eyes as he scrutinizes the unconscious farm boy. Artoo makes a slight sound and Ben turns and looks right at him.
It’s not something they cooked up in post because they missed a pickup shot in Tunisia.
