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#717420
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Star Wars: Episode VII to be directed by J.J. Abrams **NON SPOILER THREAD**
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DominicCobb said: 

clearly he has more interest in the material and has taken it upon himself to do rewrites

 That's what worries me. Don't get me wrong, I think he's an excellent director but the stories he chooses to direct usually leave a lot to be desired.

But he certainly fixed them when it came time to actually make the movie. Look at anything else Kurtzman and Orci have written: total shit movies. But the Abrams Trek films are for sure awesome fun times. One thing's certain: Abrams can direct an action film.

All of the plot holes and utter dreck that were in the scripts survive in those films. Abrams personal flair is all that saves them from collapsing in on themselves.

My concern is that it's been reported that he's rewriting the scripts with Kasdan. If that's true, I fear he might be having Kasdan rewrite it to read like any other Bad Robot production. Emphasis on bad.

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#717410
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Star Wars: Episode VII to be directed by J.J. Abrams **NON SPOILER THREAD**
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There's a difference between simple and nonsensical. Star Wars (1977) was actually competently written and a good story. The Star Trek reboots are awash in incredibly illogical, poorly thought out nonsense

When Abrams is working from a decent script he makes it work but the writers he usually surrounds himself with show he doesn't care if a script is actually good or not. That or he's incredibly loyal to his friends and will stick with them even if they couldn't write themselves out of a paper bag.

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#717369
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All Things Star Trek
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What it comes down to is that Abrams has a philosophy that is based around style over substance. Damn logic if it gets in the way of a good action sequence. It's highlighted by his whole mystery box philosophy, where what's inside the box doesn't matter but the sense of mystery itself is.

Basically there are no answers to the mysteries he presents because there never were any to begin with. It's mystery for the sake of mystery. What is the point if there is no answer? It's what ruined LOST. The show was never building up to anything, it was only concerned with keeping the viewer guessing. So when it finally did end it was a spectacular disappoint to almost everyone.

And I think Abrams lack of respect for storytelling is most telling in the people he has writing for him. Orci, Kurtzman and Lindelof are some of the worst screenwriters working today. They don't give a damn about telling a good story, they just want to create a framework to film something "exciting." They don't care if it doesn't make sense as long as it'll look great on the screen.

At first I was excited by Abrams directing VII because his usual cabal of writers didn't come with him. Instead it was the brilliant writer Michael Arndt. But then Arndt was removed and Abrams changed the focus of the film toward the original cast. At least that's what we've been lead to believe thus far. Right now my only real hope is in Kasdan.

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#717137
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Doctor Who
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I've been slowly making my way through Doctor Who and have just recently gotten to the Fourth Doctor. I come before you now with a question.

How successful would you say The Doctor's mission was in Genesis of the Daleks?

My first thought after just finishing it was that it was a complete failure save for the fact that his interference saved Davros(I really shouldn't know about that yet, but I do).

But then I started thinking. When the Doctor was spilling the beans to Davros about all of the Daleks failures he says some interesting things. First he states that the Dalek invasion of Earth occurred in the year 2000. But we know it happened in the 22nd century. He also mentions attacks against Mars and Venus. Which we'd never heard of before now.

There's also the matter of the Daleks being much weaker when we first encounter them in The Daleks where they rely on static power and can only function on metal floors. Whereas at their birth they were fully mobile and capable of traversing war torn terrain.

Could it be that the Doctor was more successful than he realized? That his actions on Skaro altered time and that the show had been following this altered timeline up until now?

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#717035
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The Marvel Cinematic Universe
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Marvel just announced they're saving the date for five more films through 2017-2018. This is how Phase 3 is currently shaping up:

  • May 1, 2015 – The Avengers: Age of Ultron
  • July 17, 2015 – Ant-Man
  • May 6, 2016 – Captain America 3 (Untitled)
  • July 8, 2016 – Doctor Strange (Unannounced)
  • May 5, 2017 – Unannounced
  • July 28, 2017 - Unannounced
  • November 3, 2017 - Unannounced
  • July 6, 2018 - Unannounced
  • November 2, 2018 - Unannounced
  • May 3, 2019 – The Avengers 3 (Unannounced)

Expect big announcements next Saturday.

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#716840
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The Marvel Cinematic Universe
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He has an answer to that too! =P

“The notion that Marvel was scared, the vision was too good, too far out for Marvel is not true. And I don’t want to talk too much about that because I think our movies speak to that. Go look at Iron Man 3; go look at The Winter Soldier; go see Guardians of the Galaxy later this month. It would have to be really out there to be too out there for us… The perception that the big evil studio was too scared at the outside-the-box creative vision is just not the case.”

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#716827
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The Marvel Cinematic Universe
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At a recent screening for Guardians of the Galaxy, Kevin Feige had this to say about Ant-Man:

“We sat round a table and we realized it was not working. A part of me wishes we could have figured that out in the eight years we were working on it. But better for us and for Edgar that we figure it out then, and not move it through production.

“We said let’s do this together and put out a statement. What do we say? ‘Creative differences’. I said: ‘That’s what they always say and no-one ever believes it.’ Edgar said: ‘But in this case it’s true … ‘”

“The biggest disappointment for me is just the relationship, because I like Edgar very, very much and we were very close for many many years.”

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#716640
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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AntcuFaalb said:

I think one important thing to point out is that if people (in general) don't care about SE revisions, then they also wouldn't care about the lack of them. Disney must know this.

 Actually it would be their strongest selling point.

The "excitement" of picking up the latest re-release to see what else has changed has worn off.

Now all they have left is to throw out the triumphant return of the theatrical editions brilliantly restored for the first time on blu-ray to drive up sales.

This brings in the large segment of people who stopped purchasing because of the SE nonsense.