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#1307974
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Maclunkey
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RogueLeader said:

But it does make me wonder if Lucasfilm actually has some psuedo-vocabulary they use for simple Huttese when writing alien dialogue for the actors/voice actors to speak, and the variations are just due actors pronouncing words slightly different or loose translations.

I went and dug out my copy of the Galactic Phrase Book & Travel Guide. Here’s Ben Burtt on the creation of languages in Star Wars:

Ben Burtt said:

Returning to the early development of alien speech in Star Wars, I listened to recordings of many foreign languages and found inspiration among many that were entertaining and exotic to my ears. I auditioned language sample tapes from university linguistics departments. I combed through recorded language lessons and even monitored shortwave transmissions from around the world just to get ideas. I especially enjoyed listening to shortwave, because the aberrations and distortions of speech produced by sidebanding and mistuned transmissions gave me many ideas for electronic processing. These I exploited along the way.

Part of my research was to identify interesting real languages to use as a basis for alien ones. The advantage of using a real language is that it possesses built-in credibility. A real language has all the style, consistency, and unique character that only centuries of cultural evolution can bring. I found that if I relied on my familiarity with English, my imagined “alien” language would just be a reworking of the all-too-familiar phonemes of everyday general American speech. I had to break those boundaries, to search for language sounds that were uncommon and even unpronounceable by most of the general audience.

To this end I searched and found several fascinating possibilities. First came Huttese, which I needed for Greedo when he confronted Han Solo in the Mos Eisley cantina. I heard some recordings of Quechua, an ancient native language of Peru. Some phrases had a comic rhyming. It had a musical intonation. There were smacking sounds and clicks not a common part of speech or of any of the familiar Romance languages. I collected recordings of Quechua and searched for someone who could speak the language.

Out of this research came a linguistics graduate student from Berkeley. His name was Larry Ward, and he already could speak eleven languages, though Quechua wasn’t one of them. But Larry was gifted with the talent of mimicking any language. He could listen to Quechua, and then reproduce a stream of sound that would convince you he was speaking fluently. In fact, it was all double-talk, and this was a major discovery for me.

I got together with Larry and reviewed all I had in Quechua. We wrote down the sounds phonetically, invented and derived new sounds based on what we liked, and did some free-form recording sessions. From this activity, Huttese emerged. Once a collection of favorite words and phrases existed, I sat down and carefully studied Greedo’s mouth movements in the cut scene. I wrote out phrases and recorded with Larry specific sentences that were timed to Greedo’s movement. Having Greedo speak a humanlike language wasn’t actually George Lucas’s first choice. At first Greedo was supposed to speak with an electronic, insectlike sound. Then for a while, he spoke in a staccato “oink-oink” language that was created by George and me “oinking” simultaneously into the microphone. The fake Quechua came late in the process.

After recording a good take of each line and editing it to fit Greedo’s snout movement, I made two identical loops of each line. I would play the two copies back in sync, then drag my thumb on the reel of one copy, knocking it a few milliseconds out of sync. The blend of the two slightly out-of-sync recordings produced a phasing effect, or “comb filtering,” as it is also called. It gave the sound a tubular quality that was consistent with a sound generated in Greedo’s long snout. The result was immediately a hit with George and everybody on the crew. Pretty soon everyone was greeting each other in the editing room with the phrase “Koona t’chuta, Solo?” At that point I knew we had a success with Huttese, but I never realized it was going to be taken so much further in the subsequent films.

From there he’s built pretty hefty vocabularies for the various Star Wars languages which are cataloged in the book. Highly recommend it if you’re curious!

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#1307933
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<em><strong>Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order</strong></em> (Video Game)
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Finished it tonight. Took me about 36 hours to 100% completion. LOVED IT! Easily the best Star Wars game since Jedi Outcast. It was fun, visually engaging and had a solid story that managed to utilize and tie together a lot of different things. I really hope they can keep this team together for another game. They absolutely nailed it.

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#1307761
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<strong>The Mandalorian</strong> - a general discussion thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
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Broom Kid said:

I wonder if this will finally cause studios to stop being so freaked out by the possibility of “spoilers” when it turns out this weird, hugely overstated fear of spoilers is costing them a lot of holiday money now.

I sure hope not. The surprise reveal for ‘The Child’ was great television.

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#1307688
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<strong>The Mandalorian</strong> - a general discussion thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
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Broom Kid said:

I don’t think they’re going to do that. Adapt OR Eviscerate it. It worked as a book but I can’t imagine an adaptation working at all.

Well you can judge for yourself. Someone is currently working on a rough adaptation of HTTE as we speak.

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#1307485
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<strong>The Mandalorian</strong> - a general discussion thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
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Dave has been quietly visiting and interacting with all of the directors that have come on to do all of the new films. It’s been my suspicion for years and now it’s confirmed that he’s been gearing up slowly to start working in live action. He even made reference recently in an interview that Kennedy has been shepherding him through the process. Teaming up with Favreau is the perfect next step for him. They’ve been friends for over a decade. Dave showed Jon early Clone Wars footage and Jon showed him some early Iron Man footage at Skywalker Ranch back around 2007.

In their interviews about the Mandalorian they make it clear that the writing of the show is very collaborative. Jon uses Dave as a sounding board and they work out ideas for episodes together before Jon goes off to write them. And now on set, Jon is mentoring Dave on the art of live action filmmaking.

This has been a long thorough process and I’m excited to see what Dave has in store for the future.

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#1306975
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<strong>The Mandalorian</strong> - a general discussion thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
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I think it’s an interesting turn for the Mandos. George really turned the established Mando culture on its helmet when he decided to tackle them in the Clone Wars. After his departure Dave has slowly brought them more back in line with what the EU had established.

From what we’ve seen so far, I think the evidence would suggest the Empire nearly wiped them all out. And the survivors believed the reason for this was the abandonment of their old ways. And so now they’ve rededicated themselves to those ancient ways that made their people great originally.

I’m really enjoying these glimpses of their current society.

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#1306785
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<em><strong>Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order</strong></em> (Video Game)
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I have it on PC and it’s been a fantastic experience. Haven’t run into any major bugs or glitches. The big one that I’ve heard of was people going out of there way to break into an area they haven’t unlocked yet and then finding they’ve broken the game. I don’t have much sympathy for them but the devs have said they’re working on a fix.

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#1306715
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<strong>The Mandalorian</strong> - a general discussion thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
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regularjoe said:

I like the setup of subverting expectations. We heard Mandalorian and thought kickass bounty hunting and instead we’re going Star Wars does Mr. Mom and people are onboard with it.

This is actually exactly in line with one of the directions I thought they might go. A lot of lone fighter stories tend to ape Lone Wolf and Cub. As such, I was a little disappointed they went that route but the execution thus far has been fantastic.

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#1306439
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Terminator films
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I would want a Resistance trilogy that is a character study about John Connor. With no time travel elements until the end of the last film that sets up T1&2. The first film would be the fall of civilization and the start of the war. See how John prepared for that and began rallying survivors. The first film would predominately have HKs and endoskeleton terminators. The second film would introduce the infiltration terminators starting with the rubber skinned earliest models. This would be expensive but I think it would be great to have a de-aged Arnold as a member of the Resistance that disappears for a while and returns as a T-800. The last film would be the last great seige of Skynet as John learns they’ve cracked time travel and are preparing to assassinate him in the past.

There’s a lot you can do with the future war setting that they squandered with Salvation.

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#1306116
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<strong>The Mandalorian</strong> - a general discussion thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
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Anchorhead said:

When Kuiil asks about what happened against the Rhino, the Mandalorian says he has no idea. I like the idea that the Force isn’t known everywhere. Did he also not realize the baby was helping him?

On a backwater world with little to no contact with the greater galaxy sure. But the Jedi were guardians of the Republic for over a thousand generations. The Mandalorians themselves have clashed with the Jedi a number of times in their history.

I think he knows it was the baby, he’s just having a hard time coming to grips with just how powerful the infant apparently is.

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#1306110
Topic
<strong>Disney+</strong> streaming platform : <strong>Star Wars content</strong> &amp; various other info
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Mocata said:

Tobar said:

According to this it sounds pretty difficult.

https://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2019/11/mandalorian-most-pirated-show/

Ripping the original file is the challenge. Once a file is out there, it’s out there.

ChainsawAsh said:

Yeah, my post wasn’t trying to say that all forms of Disney+ piracy is an issue - it’s the WEB-DL style (getting the digital files themselves and stripping the DRM) that’s prohibitively difficult. WEBRIP style (recording the video stream from a device through a capture card over an HDMI connection) is easy, but it will result in at least some degradation in quality.

Yeah but TavorX’s original post was about the downloading the original 4K files to your PC. Webrips are the general bread and butter of your average pirate.

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#1305932
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<em><strong>Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order</strong></em> (Video Game)
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TavorX said:

I do have one question out of curiosity, do you ever get other companions that can accompany you along your travels? Or is it only that Droid? Do those featured characters on the ship basically just stay on the ship or do they do other tasks depending where in the story you’re in?

In terms of adventuring out with you I think it’ll always just be BD. The rest of the crew stays with the ship.

Spottyfriend said:

Can anyone recommend some good video reviews of this? I can only find the 4-minute IGN-style ones that are not in-depth at all…

I’m always fond of Easy Allies. It’s the same team that used to do the GameTrailers reviews. Real professional productions that give you a break down of everything you need to know without giving away big story spoilers.

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#1305809
Topic
Maclunkey
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RogueLeader said:

But it does make me wonder if Lucasfilm actually has some psuedo-vocabulary they use for simple Huttese when writing alien dialogue for the actors/voice actors to speak, and the variations are just due actors pronouncing words slightly different or loose translations.

Ben Burtt invented Huttese for Return of the Jedi. He published a book with common phrases in a number of Star Wars languages years ago. So yes, Huttese has always been consistent.

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#1305267
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
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sade1212 said:

How do the Hayden scenes look in ROTJ? I’d be interested to see if they’ve improved that or made it worse, and whether the bottom left corner in the wide shot is still a duplicated mess.

Mavimao said:

I’d like to see a screenshot of the Tantive door right before the imperials blow it up. It’s been used as an example of how much detail was lost in the cleaning process for the dvd/bluray.

BedeHistory731 said:

I wonder if the rancor recomposites remain. Those were some of the only good '04 alterations, owing to the darkness of the scene.

sade1212 said:

Anyone got screenshots of that new TPM colour grade? The Bluray colours are all kinds of awful.

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#1304712
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<strong>The Mandalorian</strong> - Star Wars live action TV series : <strong>Non Spolier</strong> thread
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I LOVED it! Felt far more like Star Wars than the ST ever has. It’s so obvious it was made with care for fans by fans. So many nods to various things. It’s surprisingly dark in tone with some of the action and a little of the humor. The main character is intriguing and I can’t wait to find out more about him. Similarly, the end of the first episode has me excited to see more!

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#1304242
Topic
Star Wars <strong>Fan Films</strong> / Shorts - a general discussion thread
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The Rebel Alliance has destroyed the Death Star, defeated Darth Vader and the Emperor, and driven the remnants of the old Imperial Starfleet to a distant corner of the galaxy.

Princess Leia and Han Solo are married and expecting Jedi twins. And Luke Skywalker has become the first in a long-awaited line of Jedi Knights.

But thousands of light-years away, the last of the Emperor’s warlords has taken command of the shattered Imperial fleet, readied it for war, and pointed it at the fragile heart of the New Republic…

Star Wars: Heir to the Empire - Chapter 1
Star Wars: Heir to the Empire - Chapter 2

Pretty rough around the edges but a pretty solid adaptation all things considered. I’m really digging this rise of animated fan films.

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#1303495
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<strong>The Mandalorian</strong> - Star Wars live action TV series : <strong>Non Spolier</strong> thread
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ray_afraid said:

But what’s the difference? Looks just like him, talks just like him, acts just like him. Has the same job.
Would it really be that different if he also once captured a guy named Han?
Why not truly make him a new character? Why the familiar costume?
I’m looking forward to it, but not totally sold.

That’s just judging based on all superficial aspects. This last trailer seems to hint heavily we’ll be exploring his relationship with his family and probably see what became of Mandalore.