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#537915
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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Tyrphanax said:

Forgive me, OT.com, for I have sinned.

I have put money in the pocket of Lucas. I bought a pair of Star Wars sleep pants at Wal-Mart yesterday. They were on sale, and they were a cool retro print taken from this poster and had the old style logo and everything. I couldn't pass it up.

I hope that I can be forgiven.

I totally have those pants!

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#537914
Topic
Darth Lucas Strikes Again!
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The Griff said:

Deja vu!

Anyway, it was 1997 and I guess the 'Special Editions' had all come out and done their thing. Sometime after there was a public holiday and yet another movie marathon. One of the programs was to be the Star Wars trilogy! The ads were in that weekend's papers and we were all quite keen to go (me especially, since a trilogy screening in '83 or '84 was how I first got to see EMPIRE). However, when we got to the cinema shortly before midnight on the night, we discovered that the trilogy screening had been cancelled. Why?

George Lucas.

Lucasfilm had found out about the marathon and put the kebosh on it. Needless to say, alotta folk were pretty bummed about the whole thing.

How does a theater not know you need legal permission to show a movie?

If they were showing James Bond films, and it got cancelled because the theater owner was too stupid/crooked to get/pay for the rights to show them, would you personally blame the owner of MGM or Albert Brocolli, or would you be annoyed at the theater owner for being stupid/crooked?

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#537911
Topic
OT Deleted Scenes Discussion
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Old Woman on Tatooine: Neat to see I guess?

Blue Milk: Loved it!

Stormtrooper Search: ?? ?? ? ?  I can see why it was cut.

Vader Widens The Search: Can see why it was cut, but always neat to see more of the DS. 

Full Biggs/Luke Reunion: Why wasn't this in the SE? It doesn't even conflict with the PT at all.

Han/Leia Echo Base Extended Argument: Can see pacing issues, but great stuff from both actors! Wouldn't mind this in a fan-edit.

Luke's Recovery: Ok.

Luke And Leia In The Medical Center: Loved Leia's frustration and the term "moon jockeys." Would love to see this in a fan edit.

Echo Base Wampa Attack: Interesting subplot. Don't know what it would have added.

Lobot's Capture: Never ever wondered what happened to him.

Vader Talks To Luke/New Lightsaber: Sweet to finally see. Makes Luke much more interesting with this reveal.

Sandstorm: Geez I wish this had audio! I'd love to see this added in!

Rebel Bunker Raid: More than anything, this should be added into a fan edit!

Jerjerrod's Conflict: I can see why this was cut, but perhaps the bit where Jerrjerrod is updated on the battle could be added in to flesh out the final battle. The whole countdown to destroying the planet is to ANH.

The Lost Rebels: The MF gunners, girl pilot's voice, and Mon Cal pilot should totally be editied into the movie.

 

I for one would be willing to go through some of these frame by frame and clean them up. I can't do HD video, but I can photoshop.

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#537257
Topic
Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!)
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SilverWook said:

Did Ernie Fosselius need George's permission to make Hardware Wars? Or Kevin Rubio when he made Troops? Parody is protected free speech last time I checked.

Parody is, but many fan films aren't parodies. They're new material using LFL intellectual property, which is why only parody fan films can be shown at conventions.

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#536972
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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TV's Frink said:

I haven't thought this through very much, nor have I checked to see if this has been mentioned before...but would it be possible to completely remove Yoda from the prequels?

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/What-was-the-fatal-flaw-of-the-Prequels-if-you-think-they-sucked-aka-Lets-take-a-break-from-hating-on-the-blu-rays/post/536951/#TopicPost536951

Yoda isn't that important to TPM. I think he could be cut from that fairly easily.

In AOTC he doesn't do much important, and his scenes (younglings) could probably be cut easily, but he's IN a few scenes that are needed, so it might be tougher.

The entire Wookie planet sequence could be cut from ROTS no problem. It's the third act where he and Obi and Bail are together that would make removing him totally problematic.

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#536739
Topic
What do you want to see if George Lucas cared?
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ThiefCobbler4ever said:

I would like to see this in a Original Theatrical Saga box set:

 

Disc 1: Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace
Tech Specifications:
-All New High Definition Transfer from the Original Theatrical Negative
-1080p Resolution
-Anamorphic 2.35:1 Widescreen
-English 6.1 DTS-HD Master Audio
-English 5.1 Dolby Digital
-French 5.1 Dolby Digital
-Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital
-Optional English, French, and Spanish Subtitles
-Restored and Remastered in THX
-THX Certified and Optimizer
Special Features:
-The Original 1999 Theatrical Version (UNALTERED!)
-Audio Commentary with George Lucas, Cast, and Crew
-Isolated Music Track
-Original 1999 Behind-The Scenes Featurette
-Duel Of The Fates Music Video

Disc 2: Star Wars Episode II: Attack Of The Clones
Tech Specifications:
-All New High Definition Transfer from the Original Theatrical Negative
-1080p Resolution
-Anamorphic 2.35:1 Widescreen
-English 6.1 DTS-HD Master Audio
-English 5.1 Dolby Digital
-French 5.1 Dolby Digital
-Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital
-Optional English, French, and Spanish Subtitles
-Restored and Remastered in THX
-THX Certified and Optimizer
Special Features:
-The Original 2002 Theatrical Version (UNALTERED!)
-Audio Commentary with George Lucas, Cast, and Crew
-Isolated Music Track
-R2-D2: Beneath The Dome
-Original Making Of Featurette
-Across The Stars Music Video

Disc 3: Star Wars Episode III: Revenge Of The Sith
Tech Specifications:
-All New High Definition Transfer from the Original Theatrical Negative
-1080p Resolution
-Anamorphic 2.35:1 Widescreen
-English 6.1 DTS-HD Master Audio
-English 5.1 Dolby Digital
-French 5.1 Dolby Digital
-Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital
-Optional English, French, and Spanish Subtitles
-Restored and Remastered in THX
-THX Certified and Optimizer
Special Features:
-The Original 2005 Theatrical Version (UNALTERED!)
-Audio Commentary with George Lucas, Cast, and Crew
-Isolated Music Track
-The Return Of The Darh Vader
-A Hero Falls Music Video

Disc 4: Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope
Tech Specifications:
-All New High Definition Transfer from the Original Theatrical Negative
-1080p Resolution
-Anamorphic 2.35:1 Widescreen
-English 6.1 DTS-HD Master Audio
-English 5.1 Dolby Digital
-French 5.1 Dolby Digital
-Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital
-English 2.0 Dolby Digital Surround (1993 Laserdisc Mix)
-English 2.0 Dolby Digital Stereo
-English 2.0 Dolby Digital Stereo (1985 Home Video Mix)
-English 2.0 Original Mono
-Optional English, French, and Spanish Subtitles
-Restored and Remastered in THX
-THX Certified and Optimizer
Special Features:
-The Original 1977 Theatrical Version (UNALTERED!)
-Audio Commentary with George Lucas, Cast, and Crew
-Original Laserdisc Commentary
-Option to watch the film with the 1981 Opening Crawl
-Isolated Music Track

Disc 5: Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
Tech Specifications:
-All New High Definition Transfer from the Original Theatrical Negative
-1080p Resolution
-Anamorphic 2.35:1 Widescreen
-English 6.1 DTS-HD Master Audio
-English 5.1 Dolby Digital
-French 5.1 Dolby Digital
-Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital
-English 2.0 Dolby Digital Surround (1993 Laserdisc Mix)
-English 2.0 Original Stereo
-Optional English, French, and Spanish Subtitles
-Restored and Remastered in THX
-THX Certified and Optimizer
Special Features:
-The Original 1980 Theatrical Version (UNALTERED!)
-Audio Commentary with George Lucas, Cast, and Crew
-Original Laserdisc Commentary
-Isolated Music Track

Disc 6: Star Wars Episode VI: Return Of The Jedi
Tech Specifications:
-All New High Definition Transfer from the Original Theatrical Negative
-1080p Resolution
-Anamorphic 2.35:1 Widescreen
-English 6.1 DTS-HD Master Audio
-English 5.1 Dolby Digital
-French 5.1 Dolby Digital
-Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital
-English 2.0 Dolby Digital Surround (1993 Laserdisc Mix)
-English 2.0 Original Stereo
-Optional English, French, and Spanish Subtitles
-Restored and Remastered in THX
-THX Certified and Optimizer
Special Features:
-The Original 1983 Theatrical Version (UNALTERED!)
-Audio Commentary with George Lucas, Cast, and Crew
-Original Laserdisc Commentary
-Isolated Music Track

Disc 7: Prequel Trilogy Bonus Material
-The Beginning
-From Puppets To Pixels
-Within A Minute
-Web Documentaries
-Behind-The-Scenes Featurettes
-Deleted Scenes (with optional intros)
-Theatrical Trailers and TV Spots
-Photo and Still Galleries

Disc 8: Original Trilogy Bonus Material
-Empire of Dreams: The Story of the Star Wars Trilogy
-From Star Wars To Jedi
-The Characters of Star Wars
-The Birth of the Lightsaber
-The Force is with Them: The Legacy of Star Wars
-Theatrical Trailers, TV Spots, and Radio Spots
-Photo and Still Galleries
-Original Screen Tests
-Laserdisc Archives

 
Disc 9: Bonus Disc
-"The Original Is Forever: Restoring The Original Saga": All New 25 minute documentary on restoring the original theatrical versions of the Star Wars Saga
-The Star Wars Holiday Special
-Star Wars: The Force Is Back
-The Mythology Of Star Wars
-Return Of The Ewok short
-1995 Interview with George Lucas by Leonard Maltin
-TV Appearences
-Toy and Tie-In Commericals
-That 70s Show Episode: A New Hope

-When Star Wars Ruled The World special

Gotta know. Did you TYPE this... of do you just keep a handy word file with your DVD wishes on them all the time?

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#536738
Topic
Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!)
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Pennsylvania Jones said:

This makes zero sense.

Your dad is okay with you torrenting moves for editing purposes, which pretty much everyone agrees is piracy.  But he won't let you download a preservation of the GOUT even if you buy the GOUT because he says that is piracy?

Head asplode.

Well, he's more indirectly okay with it.  I don't do it with his permission, but he's seen me edit them, asked how I got them, then says "okay."  However, when I directly asked him permission to download the preservation, he said no.  He lets me edit pirated films, but he won't let me get the most awesome Star Wars preservations ever...  I'll make a point of that the next time I get close to him.  Even if it means deleting the movies from my computer.  The projects I'm working on will go bye-bye, if that's the case.  Oh, well.  I guess that'll give me some free time to record my own video to edit.

Makes sense to me. Taking photos of the Mona Lisa to photoshop for an art project is different than stealing the Mona Lisa from the Lourve. (even if I disagree with your pops).

Make you a deal. When you're 18, PM me and I'll make sure you get the reservations. ;-)

And YES, go shoot your own stuff. You learn SO much about editing doing it. And you learn so much about shooting from editing.

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#536707
Topic
STAR WARS- The gritty TV Reimagining!
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rpvee said:

So it's kinda like a reboot taking elements of the original and dramatically remixing them?  Never saw Battlestar so I don't know how it works.

Basically. And it has to be gritty! :)

Tyrphanax said:

Feels kinda like early drafts of Star Wars to me.

The highest compliment of all. :)

(I read zombie's book a lot)

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#536596
Topic
STAR WARS- The gritty TV Reimagining!
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My brother and I both liked the new Battlestar Galactica, and started to wonder what it would be like if "Star Wars" was given a similar treatment for TV. Certain considerations, like less violence and more character heavy plotting would be called for, and probably a more complicated backstory, with lots of talky political machinations just due to the realities of TV production.

After hashing out for a bit we came up with the following ideas:

For a thousand years the Jedi Knights served as the bodyguards and advisors to the Galactic Emperors. In a period of unheaval caused by economic chaos, trade disputes, civl wars, and the deaths of trillions from the Midichlorian plague, the Emperor was overthrown, the Jedi outlawed, and a new order siezed control of the galaxy. The Supreme Chancellor of the First Republic, and his newly reformed Order of the Sith now control uncounted worlds with an iron fist.

TATOOINE GULAG

The isolated desert world serves as a holding place for political prisoners to be dropped and forgotten.

LUKE: Luke is one of many young people serving time for the sins of their parents during the war. He was born and raise in the Tatoine Gulag, his mother dying in custody when he was just a child. He's a surprisingly positive young man, having never known any other life. Extremely handy with machines, Luke has certain perks with the guards because he works in machine shop. He doesn't know it, but he's also under the protection of Old Ben.

OLD BEN:One of the more colorful residents of the Gulag, Ben's an old man, possibly crazy, with a giant burn scar across the side of his white-haired head. Between bouts of muttering to himself, he claims that he was imprisoned for having too many friends in the old government. In reality he is Obi-Wan Kenobi, former Jedi Knight, hiding in plain sight on Tatoine to watch out for the child of his old friend Anakin Lars, young Luke.

LT. HAN SOLO: Guarding the Gulag on Tatoine is a last chance assignment for the rebelious young officer, after drunkenly slugging his captain. His mother, an admiral, pulled some strings and had him reassigned to Tatoine, where he spends his time drinking too much and gambling with the prisoners.

THE REPUBLIC

GOVERNOR WILHUFF TARKIN: A ruthless politician, Tarkin is uncomfortable with the 'religious mania' of the Sith, and occasionally comes into conflict with Lord Vader. Gracious and civil at all times, he oversees the development of a secret weapon project on the planet Endor.

LORD PROTECTOR DARTH VADER: This black armored figure appeared near the end of the Revolution, and it was he who wielded the lighsaber that beheaded the Emperor. As head of the Order of the Sith, Vader is outside the political and military structures, free to operate as he sees fit to protect peace and order in the galaxy. It is said he answers only to the Supreme Chancellor.

RAKKUS MAUL: Little is known about Darth Vader's chief Sith disciple, except that he hates the Jedi with a firey intensity, making him the perfect hunter for what remains of their order.

COUNT GILEAD DOOKU: One of the reformed Jedi, now a Sith, who led the Revolution, Dooku is the closest of all people in the galaxy to the rarely seen Supreme Chancellor, and speaks for him more often than not.

ADMIRAL DAALA SOLO: Admiral Tarkin's right hand woman, and mother of Han Solo.

PRINCESS LEIA ORGANA: Although she is treated as an honored guest onboard Tarkin's Star Destroyer, Leia is in fact a political hostage, being held against her father, Bail Organa, who vanished some time ago, possibly to ferment rebellion.

THE JEDI

QUI GONN GINN: This Jedi aescetic lives with a handful of young pupils in his monestary on the ice world of Hoth. The remoteness and basic unimportance of this place has kept it protected, although many still fear Ginn's prophecy of the Coming of the Skywalker.

MACE WINDU: High Master of the Jedi Order, Windu has been kept prisoner for almost two decades of solitary confinement and occasional torture, but still refused to give up the secret that he alone in the galaxy knows: the location of The Yoda, the supreme guardian of Jedi wisdom.

ANAKIN LARS: No one knows what happened to this Jedi Knight, last seen during the Fall of Coruscant. Lars was an extremely powerful Jedi Knight, as well as being politically popular. Some feared his influence over the old Emperor, and others believed that he was the long awaited Skywaller, a living avatar of the Force, destined to remake the galaxy. His polaraizing presense is one of the many factors that ignited the Revolution.

Season One would be a slow build to Luke, Han, and Obi escaping Tatoine together and ending up trying to rescue the Princess, only to learn the horrifying truth about the Death Star! And later Where is the Yoda? Who is the Skywalker? What caused the Midichlorian Plague? When wil Jar Jar show up?

I don't think I plan to do much else with these ideas, so this isn't a rewrite or anything, but I thought somebody might get a kick out of them. Feel free to pick it apart or add to it.