TheBoost

When I first discovered fan-edits, I gave Wal-Mart $15 of my hard earned cash to buy a copy of that piece of crap AOTC so that my copy of Attack of the Phantom would be 'legal.'

Piracy is bad.

I was an "insta-hater" on lots of phenomena.

I hated on "Smallville" The Harry Potter books, the movie "Holes" and every Joss Whedon show, and in every case, when I finally gave it a shot, I enjoyed the hell out of it.

So I decided, when every single girl at the school I teach at, and half the female staff were reading those books, I might as well go and check out the movie. Give it an honest shot.

... ...

It's like having everything bad in the world injected into your brain through your eyes. I could write a doctoral thesis on what's wrong with that movie in terms of acting, directing, writing, the thematic elements, the action, the girl's stupid look, the long term harm it has done to the American horror genre and the Women's equality movement.  If I could, I'd like to rabbit punch the author and the director, then take a bat to the cast and studio executives for that insipid crap.

skyjedi2005 said:

 

Since it won't include the oot, Not interested.

 What he said.

there's  a flick called "The Last Broadcast" that's a horror mockumentary that predated Blair Witch, and it has a creepy narrator with a horrible voice that this dude reminds me of.

This one racked my brain. I'm pretty sure I'm WAY off at some points.

• 0:00:00 Opening Logos
• 0:03:00 Luke's message to Jabba
• 0:05:00 Lapti-Nek
• 0:09:00 Unfreezing Han
• 0:07:00 Chewie in dungeon
• 0:09:00 Luke arrives at Jabba's
• 0:20:00 Sarlacc Fight Starts
• 0:30:00 Jabba Dies
• 0:33:00 Leave Tatooine
• 0:36:00 Emperor on DSII
• 0:39:00 Yoda dies
• 0:43:00 Rebellion Meet-up
• 0:46:00 Land On Endor
• 0:49:00 Speeder Bike Chase
• 0:55:00Leia meets Wicket
• 0:59:00Han and Luke in Ewok Net
• 1:00:00 C-3PO is a shiny god
• 1:05:00 C-3PO retells Saga
• 1:20:00 Vader and Luke meet
• 1:30:00 Attack on DSII
• 1:55:00 Luke defeats Vader
• 1:58:00 Vader defeats Palpatine
• 2:02:00 DSII is destroyed
• 2:06:38 Credits

none said:

 

Yeah, but Jodorowski is certifiably insane.

 

He showed up at the 2000 Chicago Underground film festival, saw Santa Sangre and El Topo, having known nothing about him before, the movies were interesting and he came across as just another old man who had made some very interesting movies.

 Perhaps he's mellowed. He was pretty dam n wacky back in the day.

neebis said:

I mentioned this in another thread, but Star Wars might also have another Dune connection. The director of the earlier, unmade Dune film project claims that his storyboards were passed around Hollywood in the 1970s and may have influenced the look of Star Wars. Some of the artists Moebius, Chris Foss, Giger and writer Dan O'Bannon on that film, went on to work on Alien and other science fiction movies.

Unseen Dune

 Yeah, but Jodorowski is certifiably insane.

http://www.creativeaudioscape.com/intheshadows.htm

I just found this show yesterday. It's a fan production, but don't hold that against it. I'm only an episode and a half in, but so far the writing's fairly solid, the plot moves at a brisk pace, and the production is top notch.

And it's so nice to see a "Star Wars" entertainment property, even a fan-made one, that's not about the Jedi.

The continual outpouring of Love for these films proves that the PT didn't hurt them, anymore than 1000 bad pastiches have hurt Sherlock Holmes, or that terrible Timothy Dalton movie hurt Gone with the Wind.

The OT is timeless art, beloved by millions.

vote_for_palpatine said:

Does it matter whether they believe it or not as long as they're not doing anything criminal? Let's say I was a Christian who believed gays=hell. And let's say I went beyond the "love the sinner, hate the sin" sort of thing. If I don't act on it, what's the problem?

Would it be better if they were atheists who hated gays?

 I'd say they were both asshats, and would respect neither.

Warbler said:

TheBoost said:

 "Mainstream" Christianity is a difficult term, and perhaps I chose poorly to use it, but there are definitly churchs that DO hold those Gays=Hell beleif.

yeah, if you are talking about the nuts that protest funerals, but I wouldn't call them mainstream.

Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and their loathsome gay-hating ilk have huge media exposure, their own TV networks, endless radio shows, enourmous flocks and hundreds of millions of dollars coming from people who share their beliefs. Megachurch superstar Rick Warren is more subtle, but no less Gay=Hell. And while they make not advocate protesting funerals (I don't actually know) I'm doubt they disaprove based on comments they have made.

Hard not to look at that and think mainstream.

28. A man in a pickle

Warbler said:

TheBoost said:

Fair enough for your church, but in responce to Bingo's post, if a Church does believe that (or, as I've heard before that if you REALLY accepted Christ you wouldn't be gay anymore, so a gay can't be saved QED) does that mean we are duty bound to NOT respect them?

if you accept Christ, you don't stop sinning.   Everyone sins,  even believers.

 "Mainstream" Christianity is a difficult term, and perhaps I chose poorly to use it, but there are definitly churchs that DO hold those Gays=Hell beleif.

Bingowings said:

Any book that says selling your children, stoning people to death for having sex with someone of the same gender etc is good should be openly ridiculed and anyone truly believing such nonsense too.

If it was written by men over a period of hundreds of years it can be re-written by men.

Ok then.

Ignore my previous comments, as they were from the misunderstanding you were with the "respect religion" crew. If that's your stance, there's no confusion on my end.

Warbler said:

 you seem to be reading things into my posts which aren't there.  I never said that Catholic beliefs are dumb.   Nor did I say that all of Vatican 2 should be revoked nor any of the other stuff you mentioned.   You make it seem like I am bigoted against the Catholic Church.   That is just not so.

I was kind of riffing on your and xhonzi's post at once (although you did suggest women priests and called their reasoning 'silly'). It seems off to pick and chose what other religions' "core beliefs" are worthy (if we agree that child buggering is not a core belief).

 actually gays don't go to hell.   It is those that have failed to take Christ as their savior, that go to hell.   If a Gay takes Christ as his Savior, he is saved.   I believe that is the mainstream Christian belief

Fair enough for your church, but in responce to Bingo's post, if a Church does believe that (or, as I've heard before that if you REALLY accepted Christ you wouldn't be gay anymore, so a gay can't be saved QED) does that mean we are duty bound to NOT respect them?

zombie84 said:

I plan on living in the Fox studios underground salt mine archive in Arizona, re-watching reels of old John Ford films and the last surviving negatives of Star Wars, whilst surviving off the salt.

 If I bring limes and tequilla, can I join you?

Bingowings said:

I think respecting respectable beliefs (no matter how odd or out there they may seem) is perfectly fine.

Surely we are duty bound to disrespect and be openly hostile (no fisticuffs) to beliefs which encourage hate, crime and bigotry.

 A couple thoughts-

1- Since Kiddie-raping is not part of Catholic doctrine, using it as a reason to say "The Catholics need to change their beliefs to be more in line with what we (Protestants? Evangelicals? Anyone smarted than a damn mackerel-snapping papist?) think their faith should be about" seems to be a strech.

2. Does the mainstream Christian belief that gays go to hell count as not-respectable? It seems to me it encourages hate, whether expicit ("God Hates Fags") or phrased really polite ("hate the sin, not the sinner.")  Does this mean one should not respect any of these people?

"My religion is the rock of my life. It forms the foundation of everything I do. It guides how I think and how I live. It guides how I eat, how I marry, raise my children. Through it I chose what virtues to embrace and what acts to avoid. It tells me what I should do with my money and what activites i should do with my spare time."

"Good job buddy! Go religion!"

"My religion also tells me what sorts of people I should like and dislike."

"Booo! You suck and your religion is crazy!"

Bingowings said:

Can bookmarking protect us all from the harmful effects of solar storms and EMP?

 I have a DVD of "Revisited." It would survive an EMP, then I'd wander the wasteland for years trying to find the one working DVD player in the Badlands, like a geeky Mad Max.

xhonzi said:

What you might be trying to say, and what I'd agree with you: They need to return to their basics.  They don't need fresh new ideas, they need to return to the ideas that are/should be at the core of their faith.

Warbler said:

The reason giving for not allowing Women to be Priests(that none of the 12 disciples were women) just seems silly to me.

Mass should go back to being Latin, and plenury indulgences should return? Should the church give up it's tacit approval of evolution and it's admittance that Galeleio wa right? Should all of Vatican 2 be revoked so that we can go back to what we apparently think is/should be the core of their faith? Or should only what seems "silly" have to change back, and other changes are OK?

As we all agree the molestation and institutional corruption is bad, but it just strikes me as odd that in a thread about respecting other people's beleifs, we're still totally comfortable saying how the Catholics beliefs are dumb.

Warbler said:

vote_for_palpatine said:

The Catholic church needs new and fresh ideas.

Like what?

perhaps allowing Priests to marry?   maybe allowing women to become Priests?     I don't know.  

It's interesting that in a "respect other beleifs" thread, aren't those kind of arbitrary atacks on basic Catholic doctine? Do they really need new and fresh (Protestant) ideas, or do they just need to STOP F--KING CHILDREN, which is a fairly old idea?

Warbler said:

I personally think the Pope needs to resign.  It won't solve the problems they have, but its a good first step.   

But Ben's only had the big hat for a few years. A great deal of the shadiness and raping happened under the watch of the previous guy, the near universally beloved JP2.

vote_for_palpatine said:

This is better than at least 60% of the EU novels.

I agree, if only because so few EU characters have mustaches.

Bingowings said:

TheBoost said:

Bingowings said:

It's hard to respect beliefs like this...

 As much as I don't care for the papacy in general, to be fair buggering little boys isn't actually part of their belief system.

Blaming homosexuals for the acts of pedophile priests seems to be though.

Even when they are raping young girls.

I see your point, but once an organization starts and institutionalized program to protect kiddie-rapists, it's hard for me to get outraged at them for homophobia.

Bingowings said:

It's hard to respect beliefs like this...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/13/vatican-homosexuality-paedophilia-claim-condemned

 As much as I don't care for the papacy in general, to be fair buggering little boys isn't actually part of their belief system.

Did you know that in Tibetan there's actually a specfic term for a Bhuddist-monk's sex-slave?