TheBoost

xhonzi said:

 

So, their beliefs I tolerate or ignore, but the people I respect. 

 Well said.

xhonzi said:

xhonzi said:

Being polite, if you think about it, always is some kind of charade.  It's some kind of lie, right?  It's dishonest, as you said.  Bold faced honesty is not something we value much in society.

 Boost, I was disappointed you never commented on my claim above.  Care to now?

 A day late and a dollar short but I'll give it a shot.

It seems to me that being polite is an agreed apon framework of behavior that people of differing moods, backgrounds, and attitudes can share to make interaction easier and more pleasent. Sometimes we know someone doesn't give a damn if we have a 'good morning' or not, but that they're "just being polite" because poiteness exists for people we NEED to interact with, not that we want to. From the Greek "Polis" meaning city, because people in the city needed to interact and get along in fundamentally different ways than agrarian peoples.

At my cousin's wedding last month (she's a Born Again Fundy) another guest came up to me and said, "I sure could feel the Holy Spirit moving in that room. It really brought those two together." This dude and I share the framework of behavior for Basic Politeness, so I responded with a noncommital "Aint that something."

But since he and I don't share a basic framework for how the Universe fuctions, he might as well have been saying "The CIA controls my brain through my dental fillings."

Politeness is something both parties have to tacitly agree to. And while it does include a great deal of NOT acting on certain opinions (I despise at least two of my coworkers and have never mentioned it), I don't think it's fair to call politeness dishonest, since these codes of behavior are kind of an agreement between people at large (which is not to say someone cannot be both polite and dishonest while being polite. I think many people confuse feigned friendship with politeness).

If politeness involves ignoring people's religions the same way it involves not telling a coworker how much you hate their pants, so be it. It greases the wheels of social interaction.

My key issue has always been with "respect" as a term,  which seems to carry with it a kind of esteem. I much prefer the term "tolerate" or my personal favorite "ignore."

I can't respect the belief that "crystals have healing powers" even if it would be impolite in most cases to say, "I think you're crazy or stupid or both" to someone who said it.

TV's Frink said:

TheBoost said:

I generally dislike Disney cartoons, because I find their messages to be quite troubling.

As long as The Incredibles doesn't give you bad memories, you should be ok.

 Heck no. Pixar's films are generally excellent, with (IMHO of course) well developed and emotionally mature themes. Huge kudos to those (except Cars)

Am I the only person here who's not a sock?!?

I generally dislike Disney cartoons, because I find their messages to be quite troubling. In fact, my pals make fun of me as "The Man Who Killed Walt Disney." I find overwhelming fault in most of them, and am not shy about complaining about them.

Just watched "Princess and the Frog" and actually found it to be rather enjoyable. The music was really good, and I found it refreshing to see a Disney film acknowledge something as real as social class distinctions in a fairly real way (for a children's film).

High quality 2D animation and perhaps Disney's best story in decades.  

Bingowings said:

 

Fett is a bounty hunter but I think Lucas made the mistake of turning him and his 'father' into general hired muscle.

But wasn't Boba hired muscle in ROTJ?

zombie84 said:

Being able to "see" beyond our normal senses like our eyes is not predicting the future. Luke "stretches out with his feelings", sensing wherethe bolts will come. Spidey sense, basically, or a form of super-human (aka paranormal) reflexes. As I said, this would be akin to Obi Wan "knowing" that he can make the jump to the droid. This is much different from the complex, long-term prediction Obi Wan has to make following this:

-That the droid will support his weight

-That it isn't rigged to explode, or won't intentionally or unintentionally run into a building...or traffic.

-That the sniper who has her scope on him will for some reason shoot the droid and not his head.

-That when he freefalls as a result of this he won't hit traffic or the bottom of Coruscant but will slip gracefully into the padded leather interior of Anakin's speeder.

He clearly knew none of this. That's part of the suspense and drama of the sequence, Obi Wan made a rash choice and now he's hanging on for dear life and who knows what will happen or how he will get out of it. Obi Wan isn't going "its fine, don't worry, I read the script, er, saw the future cuz I'm a Jedi." He's going "SHIT, WTF am I gonna do here??" Thats where the drama comes from, if there is any.

I agree that's where the drama comes from. (although being that he lives in the future, he might be able to make a good guess that the droid could support his weight)

I fail to see the difference between being able to super-sense where a blaster bolt is going to come from before it's fired and seeing the future. Since, excepting one instance, we never see a Jedi move faster than a normal person, their apparent super-human reflexes must be the result of precognition (without superspeed, reacting to a blaster after it's fired would do no good).

I think the Jedi's limited foresight (compare Qui-Gon's "he can see things before they happen" and Yoda's "Hard to see the future is") explains why they can do what they do, and because of it they make a habit of just jumping into situations trusting in their Jedi abilities (and in Obi's case their trusted buddies) to get them out of trouble.

If the little robot had exploded, or the chick tried to shoot him (which he might have sensed), Obi probably would have reacted in a similar apparently haphazard manner and trusted the Force to see him through.

zombie84 said:

a)they have super-human reflexes

b)they have super-human reflexes

It's a nitpicky thing, for sure. I think his note that it would make better sense for Anakin to do this is far more salient, because this has to do with character issues. But I have to say, nitpicky or not, he has a good point nonetheless.

I'll argue that to deflect multiple laser bolts requires more than fast reflexes, especially when blindfolded, but we can agree to disagree.

His point that it might have made more character sense for Anakin to do it isn't a worthless point (although Annie being more concerned with Padme's well being at the moment he cut down the death bugs isn't an invalid dramatic choice), but it doesn't have bearing on whether our precognitive superhero monks would be able to catch the robot or not.

This dude burned down my hometown... if it was really my hometown or not I'm not sure of, but he definitely stabbed me (maybe). Regardless, he's a dick.

zombie84 said:

I don't think Jedi precognition extends to such specific, instantaneous matters in the middle of an action scene. It's really like "I sense bad stuff will happen sometime soon." Not, "I will grab on to the droid and the droid will support my weight and when the assassin with the sniper rifle and perfect aim shoots she will shoot the droid and not my face and when I freefall 70 storys I will gently land in the passenger seat of Anakin's speeder." 

If Jedi precognition is so vague, how can the

A: Block multiple lasers with their sword

B: Drive superfast podracers.

As Qui-Gon said, they "see things before they happen"

EyeShotFirst said:

His points were that of a young man who believes that George Lucas can do no wrong. 

Yeah, but since RLM actually did a five minute bit in his TPM review about how no one could have known Qui-Gon was a Jedi because robes seem to be common clothing in the Star Wars world, or actually complained that in AOTC Obi Wan "didn't know he could catch the robot out the window" when Jedi are supermen who can see the future, I think these two deserve each other.

Octorox said:

Which one in the video is you Boost? Also, sorry about your friend.

I was the cameraman.  And be thankful, because my acting is worse than my camerawork.

And thanks. He was a great guy.

bkev said:

Nothing is working Boost. I even tried the Firefox add-ons that are supposed to do this stuff for ya.

Thanks though. At least this means I'm not suddenly technically inept.

Crap.

Short of pointing my camera at the screen, anyone have any idea how I could get this footage in some kind of permanent form?

I'm sorry, I tried Orbit and now Jamiya.com, and still can't get the vid.

I'd be eternally grateful if anybody who can functionally download these vids could do so, and email me the file. I'd name my next kid after your avatar.

How come they don't make FMV games like these anymore?

This thread is currently about.... ... DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS!!

I really liked the FMV Tex Murphy games. Why dont they make games like that anymore?

It's interesting that he says AOTC doesn't have a single bit of creativity in it, and then complains it doesn't have a standards fish out of water protagonist.

Just DLed it. Thanks for the 'preservation' none.

Wow, two helpful responses before Frink did something weird. Thanks guys, I'll try that.

I still don't find his "I kill women" gimmick to be funny, but I'll at least note that he tried to make a joke out of it this time, as opposed to just showing tortured women and expecting a laugh.

He still makes some good points, but goes on forever, and forever, and forever. It's neat that he owns "Romeo and Juliet" but after the first clip, it doesnt really add anything.

I can't wait for his ROTS review which will be three times longer than the actual movie.

Baronlando said:

That was quite good. Hope the dude who made it is alright.

I hope that when he gets his stuff together and/or stops thinking he's funny, he'll come back and at least see what high regard we held his product in.

The bars pretty low on that one. Unless it's worse than one of the most horrendous films of the last 20 years it should be viewed as a success.

I'm in a rough spot. After several unfortunate events, the only surviving footage of one scene from a film I did with some pals in college (one of whom is no longer with us) is on MySpace and I can't figure out how to get it off for safekeeping.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=44144716

I've tried the keepvids, and the youtubex.com, and the realplayers and cant seem to make it work. If anyone knows how to do such a thing, any help would be really appreciated.

On a lighter note, clicking that link will show what an awful cinematogapher I was at 19.

Kevin McKid is another dude who could be loads of characters. He's got such a great look for a "Star Wars" type movie.