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xhonzi said:

Warbler said:

 

xhonzi said:

  Your life, Warbler by the way- not important.

now that's just not nice.   do you believe this about all non-conservatives?   : (

 Those aren't my words... those are the words of Mary Beth Sweetland.  If YOU needed insulin, you can't take it.  But, because she is a PETA VP, her life is important enough to take it.  Do you understand the difference?

 To be fair, I beleive she's a FORMER VP of PETA... which I assume means she should be willing to die now.

Warbler said:

does really tell people not take insulin?  even if its that or die?

 

 Yes.

Perhaps the least funny movie of all time.

Steve Harvey actually does a bit where he says, "Remember the good songs in the 70's?" and then plays about 8 songs all the while saying, "Yeah, that was a good song."

xhonzi said:

So... are a lot of you saying that you hate the prequels because the O-OT was never released on DVD?

I'd say to a degree yes, at least for me.

That the films were disapointing was one thing, but I had a lot of love for all things "Star Wars."

Then George Lucas gave all of us who loved his work a big collective donkey punch when he stole the original films from the culture.

Imagine your buddy, the world's best BBQ man, invites you over for BBQ. When you arrive he gives you a somewhat stale cheese sandwich.

Yeah the sandwhich is kinda bad, but it's not until he starts eating the succulent barbeque pork ribs in front of you, and then says "I have all this extra pork ribs, they sure look good," puts the platter on the ground and urinates on the porkribs all the while asking you how you like your sandwich.

That's when you really hate the sandwich. It's not that the sandwich has gotten worse, it's just that the whole thing is now personal.

Honestly, I want to see the scene where the Ewoks give Leia a new dress and braid her hair.

dark_jedi said:

Funny you posting that, I just got my copy of King Kong 1976 on Blu-ray from Australia today.

 ??? ??? ???
You ORDERED it or was it some kind of sick shipping error?!?!?!

??? ??? ??? ???

Kurgan said:

Sweet! See you guys in ten years...

 No man. the "2020" isn't a DATE.

It's allegorical, symbolising that Adywan has "vision."

TV's Frink said:

But that's what is happening with Avatar.  Theatrical first.  I don't understand what you are getting at by saying the Avatar theatrical version will disappear.

 I'm just overwhelmed that James FREAKING Cameron, one of the Big wigs of Hollywood Big Wigs actually comes out and says what Lucas is doing altering and burying the OT is crap, and one this board we seem to be still so annoyed that the man said "I'm King of the World!" at the Oscars 15 years ago that all we can do it attack him.

I'll go with Fishman that my actual hostility (as opposed to mere disapointment) with the PT formed from the OT being buried by the boss. That's also when I stopped thinking the SE was cool.

"He gives us this crap, then takes away what we love!?!?"

If it had the Falcon's cockpit and a Dagobah playland outside, I'd go!

Triple H... The King of Kings! He's the JUPTER OF PRO WRESTLING!!

xhonzi said:

Boost:

and not for any justifiable reason.

Really?  I've always thought the PT was the perfect opportunity to explore what would bring a hero down to the point where he becomes Darth Vader.  It seems like a real shame to miss out on that.

Perhaps I phrased it badly.

I want to avoid a situation like in ROTS (or the EU) where going to the Dark Side is a valid and justifiable choice.

The Dark Side isn't cool powers to do good with, where you can do a cost/benefit analysis. It's evil, easier, more seductive, and will dominate your destiny. You can't start down that path.

Anakin should be driven to the Dark Side by succumbing to his weaknesses (I'm working on a combination of anger, impatience, and jealousy... a little like Luke has, only worse),  not by consciously acting out of altruism, and not by being tricked.

I'm still puttering on my Episode One ("Untitled")   and Episode Two ("The Princess of Ondos") scripts on a big yellow legal pad I keep in the car. I'll share more when it's done, but on the top of the pad I wrote four rules. I thought I'd share them, for conversation's sake.

1. No Moral Ambiguity.

• The way I see it, in the OT Good=Good, Bad=Bad. The Jedi are good. The Republic is Good (if ineffectutal). The Emperor is bad, even if people don't see it at first. Anakin is good but goes bad, and not for any justifiable reason.

2. Politics are simple and in the background.

• As much as possible the fall of the Republic is shown as events that HAPPEN, not events people talk about. In my current outline the Senate is only ever seen once.  

3. Action =/= violence

• For every seen of two characters trying to murder eachother, there should be a chase, or jumping out of a plane, or crashing a spaceship, or scrambling up the side of a waterfall, or something. I think the PT had way too many lightsaber fights, and not enough swinging across gorges.

4. More locations

• In the OT they hardly ever return to any location. I try and follow that model.

These are my thoughts at the moment.

I wonder if anyone knows that the "Eye" on Jupiter is a giant storm that could hold the entire Earth 10 times over, and has been raging for at least 400 years!!!!

This thread is about JUPITER, KING OF PLANETS!!!

doubleofive said:

I've never actually seen the movie "GoldenEye".

[/confession]

 Then you're missing (IMHO) the best Bond film.

xhonzi said:

 

Boost:

Jedi is even more complicated than Empire.

You think so?  The three way split during the ending, I guess, is what's making you say this.  But most of the movie is in "single narrative", versus Empire which is "dual narrative" for most of the movie.

 

 Yeah, it's the three way split.

I hope the next special edition inserts some Jar Jar to make it a four way split, so that we know what he was doing before yelling "weesa freee!"

I saw TPM in theaters probably six times. While I didn't like Jar Jar, and wished the film WASN'T a kid's adventure story, it was a fun kid's adventure and I liked it and the love of "Star Wars" kept me from worrying about many of it's basic storytelling flaws.

I saw AOTC once. Just never really had the impulse to see it again. I didn't think I HATED it right away, but the fact it failed as a love story and a mystery (both things I would have dug if it had succeeded) never sat right with me. If you had asked me I would have said it was a good flick, but perhaps that was just denial. Got the VHS for Christmas and watched it once or twice, but never really gave it much thought.

I still stand that ROTS was a pretty good flick, and had it been anything other than the climax to the greatest saga of film history, I think I would say it was damn good.

It was only after they all came out and some time passed that I got the general feeling of "that was extremely underwhelming."

It was when I first saw "The Phantom Edit" and for the first time really dug TPM as a movie, not just as"more Star Wars" that I started to see the major flaws in the stories that had kept me from really loving those movies.

Sluggo said:

TheBoost said:

 How I'd love to roll my eyes and go "Silly backwards Muslims" and feel pleasently xenophobic and culturally superior. 

But I got TV Preachers on every side telling me abortion doctors caused Hurricane Katrina, and 9/11 was because America lets gays vote, and the cast of WWE Monday Night Raw was stuck in Europe last night because the Iceland volcano went off to punish America for Health Care reform.

Sigh.

The TV preachers are something, all right.  It sure seems easy for them to declare their own opinions as the word of God. 

Yeah, but isn't it all the same? What's the difference between Pope Benedict, Jerry Falwell, The Ayatollah, Rick Warren, the Dalia Lama, or Peter Popoff having an opinion, having a flock, and picking some bit out of their holy writ and saying that's what God thinks?

Rebel1one1 said:

 

You know. The sad fact of the matter is that fan edits are a form of piracy. There are no if ands or buts about it. It's hard to listen to people judge others for copying DVDs and gloating about downloading fan-edits at the same time.  If studios wanted fan edits to be available they would issue contracts to fan editors and release them. I'm not speaking against this as I love fan editing as much as anybody else here but piracy is piracy and you can't you can't throw stones while living in a glass house.

Copyright infringement and the questionable legality of the fan-edit hobby, and the outright theft of pirating a movie are very different things.

As long as one legally owns a copy of the film a fan-edit may be a lot of things, but a pirated-copy it is not.

Bingowings said:

Along with homosexuals being responsible for Catholic Priests abusing little girls, immodestly dressed and promiscuous women cause earthquakes :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8631775.stm

 How I'd love to roll my eyes and go "Silly backwards Muslims" and feel pleasently xenophobic and culturally superior. 

But I got TV Preachers on every side telling me abortion doctors caused Hurricane Katrina, and 9/11 was because America lets gays vote, and the cast of WWE Monday Night Raw was stuck in Europe last night because the Iceland volcano went off to punish America for Health Care reform.

Sigh.

Call them what you wiill, but the flaws that are usually in sequals, most notably extending a story past it's dramatic/emotional conclusion and having to invent a new conflict, are absent from LOTR due to it's nature as being three parts of the same story (which is also how the novels were published, due to paper prices).

SW, ESB, and Jedi are not three parts of one single story. They weren't concieved that way and each is a stand alone story.

I agree that Sequals have the potential to be great. X-Men 2 is one of the best movies ever, built on the back of the somewhat pedestrian X-Men. It's just that the vast majority of sequals lack the dramatic spark (and the advantage X-men had of picking the best bits out of 35 years of published material).

xhonzi said:

TheBoost said:

This thread is odd to me.

Isn't the idea of a 'perfect' film series, really just a way of saying 'Sequals are almost always not as good as the originals." In almost every case people mention here, they just eliminate the later entries in the series (with the exception of Temple of Doom).

Isn't that the nature of sequals; not to be as good as the original?

Most movies are not very good.  So the fact that a lot of sequels are not very good, I think, is more an extension of the fact that most movies suck- and sequels are movies.

Honestly- I think sequels have the potential to be the best kind of movies.  They are unsadled by the burden of establishing milieu, or establishing character...  They can focus on plot development (and twists!) and character development, arguably the better parts of story telling.

 

Sequels...

Do you think the LotR could be as epic if they had crammed it into one film?

 I don't think the LOTR films count as sequals. FOTR wasn't a complete film. The three were designed to go together. No one said "Wow, this compelte story sure made a lot of money, let's find a way to continue it!"

(which brings up the issue that every filmamker ever is now pulling a Lucas and saying "No, I had a trilogy in mind when I first started writing the first successful film")

I think he's intimidataed. Jedi is even more complicated than Empire.

doubleofive said:

Rifftrax, my friends, Rifftrax makes the world a better place.

 For "Twilight" let me reccomend Boost-trax.

It's the sound of me giggling uncomfortably, wepping, and sometimes retching for 70 minutes, followed by the sound of a gunshot then silence.