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adywan said:

Jedi Temple34 said:

No its not! Its about someone who is trying to come out of closet to confess, that he’s really homosexual.

Pot kettle and black. You tell someone to grow up and yet you resort to the most childish thing by calling someone gay. Very mature that.And you're supposed to be 43? Geez. It's idiots like you that make me ashamed to be British.

 Don't feel bad. We have ignorant hate-filled old gits in America too.

Sluggo said:

The only correct way to watch then is by viewing Wookiee Groomer's Addicted to Star Wars. 

 

That looks AWESOME!! What sound plays? 

pittrek said:

I can't stop listening to it.

This will be my new ringtone. What kind of drugs is Ben Burtt using ?

 It's called Lucasium. It's highly addictive and forces one to make terrible choices for vague reasons.

How many things has Lucas "fixed" to his original vision, then changed again to his original vision?

Asteroid-Man said:

As much as I dislike this new howl, you guys didn't actually like the original howl did you?

 I certainly never had any problem with it.

Bingowings said:

Only people who deal in absolutes deal in absolutes (sometimes).

That sounds like commie talk to me.

Will you sign a loyalty oath to the OOT? Or are you some kinda Anchorhead sympathiser!

 A message of "THEY" are out there threatening "US" tends to sound very conservative in America. Welfare moms, immigrants, mosques, homos getting married; being threatened by an internal "THEM" and being pissed about it resonates with a lot of conservative political messages in the media.

Imagine if they had Al Franken playing a latte-sipping, arugala eating intellectual liberal-type. He drives a hybrid, gets pedicures, hugs Muslims, etc. Now imagine this character gets all riled up about how those damn Superheroes are out there, with their secret agendra, sickos who are trying to threaten OUR WAY OF LIFE and getting all pissed off about it.

The character no longer makes sense.

xhonzi said:

TheBoost said:

But if you're talking a character who is a yelling, angry, hate-spewing talk radio guy, there aren't a lot of liberal types in that genre.

I guess that's my point.  It's almost as if the liberal showrunners are nodding to the (presumed?) liberal audience and saying, "Man have you had enough of how wrong all of those idiot right wing radio hosts are?  Amiright, folks?!?!"  For a minute, it had me thinking, "Yeah, those stupid conservatives" until I realized I WAS a conservative.  

But if the character is a big blowhard screaming fearmongering radio guy brewing irrational hatred, is it somehow the writers fault that is automatically assumed to be a conservative?

And I have to imagine that a disproportionally large fanbase for superhero stuff is conservatives, due to the traditional values represented therein.

What traditional values exactly?

Sometimes in a film, the perfect single moment, a combination of writing, filming, acting, and directing manages to convey more emotion and story information than all the dialogue ever.

Two come to mind

X-Men 2.

Pyro, the punk kid mutant is in Iceman's family's house. The shot starts on a smiling family picture of Iceman and family, then the focus shifts to show a surly Pyro's reflection, staring at the picture.

The one, three second shot tells more about Pyro's character than anything else in the movie. You FEEL for him in that moment, and it adds so much to the movie while in no way really being part of the plot.

Julie and Julia

Julia Child and her husband are walking along. A woman with a baby carriage walks by. Julia looks at it and becomes briefly sad. Her husband tightens his arm around her.

That shot, maybe eight seconds, totally defines that childlessness was one of the central tradgedies of Julia Child's life, despite that the entire movie doesn't have a single line of dialoge about it (although it's briefly touched on nearer the end of the film when Julia's sister is pregant).

What other movies have single moments that achieve this much? Any thoughts?

xhonzi said:

I know a lot of storytellers tend to find themselves in more "liberal" societies, but I think there are a lot of conservative values inherent to storytelling.  Especially certain genres.

Recently, several superhero things have stuck out to me as very odd.  The Mrs. and I were watching this season of Smallville (Superman's a conservative, right?) and they introduced a "right wing radio host who is on a campaign against [Superman]".  And my first thought, as a conservative with more than his fair share of comics and other superhero paraphernalia around the house, is- Yeah, because conservatives haaaaaaaate superheroes.

Maybe it's one of those issues where both sides of the political divide want to claim what's good and desirable from pop culture... but I thought it was sort of a given that the superhero genre had certain tropes that made it more conservative friendly than a lot of other genres ("adult" comedies, for example).

Anyways, have at it.

 For starters, even though I love it, "Smallville" has some of the worst writing I've ever seen on television.

But if you're talking a character who is a yelling, angry, hate-spewing talk radio guy, there aren't a lot of liberal types in that genre. Also, the dude was poccessed by Darkseid.

And back in the day, Superman was a reformer. He used to beat up wife-beaters, slumlords, and corrupt politicians. Then in WWII he started beating up the Japanese all the time and by the 1950s he was practically Dwight Eisenhower in tights. I'm not up to date on Superman comics, but I don't know his view on taxes, but he IS an illegal immigrant.

And Green Arrow has always been portrayed as a total leftist. He's the hippy superhero.

Gaffer Tape said:

And, honestly, as long as I've seen Anchorhead around here, I've never seen anyone take him to task for just liking the first movie.  In fact, I've always thought his view was a refreshing deviation.

Now the first blows been cast and the war begun.

You're either with the OOT, or you're against it. All or nothing.

JediTray said:

How long have you been a fan?

Since 1980. I normally don't keep dossiers on Lucasfilm employess in noncreative rolls.

OK, so homeboy was a paid Lucas schill, and he quit, and it's important (to us) because he's a big Lucas schill and he quit.

Gotcha.

I just figured there was something else I was missing.

Heilemann said:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Steve+Sansweet

 Gotcha. He's a paid Lucas promoter. Is he somehow of any importance beyond that? I'm genuinly confused as to why this matters.

A couple notes on my PT re-writes before I post my Episode II "The Princess of Ondos" treatment in a couple days.

• CLONES: The Clone Armies of the Outlyers are a genetically engineered race, with different breeds for different tasks. There’s a fighter pilot clone-caste, an infantry clone-cast, and a capital ship crew clone-caste. They’re a neuter race, and in contrast to the dark haired Outlyers all have shock-white hair and solid white eyes. All clones are male.

• JEDI: We don’t see much of the Jedi in Ep.1 (only Obi), and a few more in Ep. 2. They’re not monks, but more like knight-errants. It’s considered a life of sacrifice and service, and while some disapproval is voiced about Anakin’s strong passions and temper, no specific taboos are mentioned greater than a general warning about The Dark Side.
• There is a loose hierarchy including a High Master who lives at the Jedi chapterhouse on Couruscant (briefly mentioned in Ep.2) and a tradition that certain Jedi decide to renounce their roles and go off to live as hermits and commune with the Force. Yoda is mentioned as having done this in the past (never seen) and Master Valor is having a goodbye party at the start of Ep 2. Many Jedi serve as the special body-guard of the President of the Senate. 
• There is no specific Jedi uniform, but most wear cloaks, hoods, robes, and sometimes light armor. “The Clone Wars” TV show has a great look for Jedi battle wear.

I'm sorry. Can someone briefly tell me who this dude is and why it's exciting he left Lucasfilm?

Warbler said: 

btw, I just listened to Paralyzer.  Why in hell should that be our National Anthem?  It not even a patriotic song.  Its just a rock song.   

 just a rock song?

JUST a rock song??

JUST a rock song???!?!?!?

You're dead to me Warb.

Anchorhead said:

I don't have to champion the proper release of Empire & Return because when we get Star Wars, we'll get Empire & Return.  No one need worry about that particular detail.

Wouldn't it be wierd, if Lucas was all "You can have SW77 and the original ROTJ, but I will never release the original ESB... just because I'm a dick. Mwa-ha-ha!"

Warbler said:

2.  I could find you multiple posts where people claim the ESB is their favorite Star Wars film.  They actually prefer it to the first movie. 

 

 That might be true, but for the record I vote for SW as my favorite, with (an unpopular one I know) jedi as my second favorite. Not that I don't love Empire.

Interesting ideas to kick around. I'd imagine a lot less Han/Leia scenes. Or at least shorter ones. Get to the action faster. Cut back some of Yoda's talking maybe?

Wow. I poned today.

I gotta say, I dig the look of the new droid. A refreshing take on the old REX design, but I like the paintjob. No reason EVERY robot in Star Wars needs to be all wires and stuff.

Warbler said:

FanFiltration said:

 

Now go watch "Exorcist III"

I would think it logical to see Exorcist II before that.

 Don't. It's just wierd and crummy. Exorcist III is a solid sequel.  

adywan said:

Jedi Temple34 said:

I've still got the laserdisc! Yes that ancient sad religion to some, but I pity those who are selling there laserdiscs thinking bluray us better. If it was better! I wouldn’t be fucking complaining would I!

 

Yes, you probably still would.

Oh BURN!

vote_for_palpatine said:

The PT may have been better if it had nothing to do with the OT.

 This is from WAY back but it sparked my imagination.

Imagine if the PT was an exciting tale of the fall of the Republic about all new characters, having adventures on all new worlds, and Obi-Wan, Skywalker, and Palpatine were all minor characters, like General Reiken, or Wedge.

That coulda bene fun.