bkev said:
Well, so long as it doesn't supplant the original 2D versions it could be fun. That's kind of my view on it right now.
My thoughts too. If 3D happens, I might go and enjoy it. As long as the real movie isn't surpressed (like the OOT) then all is well in my book.
Erikstormtrooper said:
I expected Anakin to die in the lava. I expected Sidious to bring him back to life using the Dark Side, the catch being that Sidious has to consciously channel the Dark Side for Vader to remain alive. That is Sidious' power over Vader ... the true "Power of the Dark Side" ... the reason Vader "must obey".
Plus, if Anakin really dies, Obi Wan would not have to make the decision to walk away from his dying friend. And he becomes less of a liar in ANH when he tells Luke that Vader murdered his father.
This would have changed the nature of the OT more than anything that was in the Prequels. If Vader is literally an unwilling slave to Empy, then there is no redemption for him as he's being actively coereced to do evil by a very real threat.
And how does it make Obi less of a liar?
tko54321 said:
I always felt these weren't shown launching the important fatal blows to the Death Star in the original version of "A New Hope" due to budgetary or time constraints. And I hoped they would be shown in the SE or in the "Revisited" fan edit/reconstruction, but they weren't.
New shot(s) of them launching would give a great reference point for the difficulty of the shot on the target as well as show where the heck they're coming from. So that's my challenge to everyone out there creating new edits of the movie.
It never occured to me in all these years that you don't see the torpedos launch. I for one have never felt their lack.
xhonzi said:
I wanted to follow-up with this question:
Has anyone that's seen ESB for the first time in the past, oh... 20 years been caught off-guard by the *Spoiler* *End Spoiler* scene?
Or anyone's kids? I would assume that is some trick to pull off, given pop culture and all.
I dated a girl in college who had a painfully repressed upbringing.
She had no idea. And was deeply concerned with if Leia ended up with Han or Luke.
xhonzi said:
Lost Season 6 was a complete disappointment to me. I can't say I feel the same about Lost since.
I think Lost, which was one long serial mystery has a greater ability to 'spoil' itself. If you find the conclusion to a mystery to be lacking, it effects the way an entire story works.
This idea really came to the forfront of my mind while the wife and I were reading the Thrawn Trilogy last year. The biggest problem is that Reconstruction doesn't have the same tone as the Revolution. That's actually pretty interesting in and of itself- history has shown that the best revolutionaries often make the worst governors.
Let me take this moment to plug "Deathstalker" my favorite sci-fi novels. It's a 5-part balls to the wall space opera about revolution and a tyrranical empire... but they kill the Emperor and overthrow the corrupt government in book 3. The next two books are just what you say, the problems and compromises of trying to build a new system... only it still kicked ass.
Warbler said:
how would people here react to Bane being the main bad guy?
I'd dig it.
When I read your title, I was hoping you were going to remove Vader and put in WWF wrestler Kane in his place, since they're both unstoppable hideously burned monsters who hide behind masks and torture their family members.
But your idea is good too.
If it had been a movie, FU would have been liked more in general than the PT because it's constantly violent and dark. People seem to like that.
As plots go, a chosen one superhero with obsence Force powers founding the Rebellion and fighting lots and lots and lots of large monsters, is just as far from the spirit of the OT as anything in the PT, albeit in a different direction.
"Robin and Marian"
Dang. The new "Robin Hood" with Russel Crowe totally bit several key plot points from this.
As soon as a conversation turns to "legacy" instead of what is enjoyable, I immediatly imagine we're all in black t-shirts, smoking, saying how our favorite bands old stuff was better, and sneering at anyone who likes popular music.
TV's Frink said:
TheBoost said:
I think "Star Wars" is good for any kid. The violent death of his aunt and uncle happen off screen so the horror is mitigated.
Well, except that their skeletons are burning amongst the wreckage. Having said that, I didn't even notice it when I was a kid first watching the movie.
True, but its not the CONCEPT of death that concerns me. It's our boyish hero getting his hand chopped off and being tortured by lightning that strike me as a bit intense for youngins.
TV's Frink said:
@CO:
Regardless of when a franchise calls it quits, how does the legacy of the franchise affect your enjoyment of the franchise? I just don't understand why this bothers people.
Couldnt agree more. As I said in the "stop being fun" thread, nothing Lucas can do can lesson my enjoyment of the OT one iota.
I think "Star Wars" is good for any kid. The violent death of his aunt and uncle happen off screen so the horror is mitigated.
ESB and ROTJ both have some intense shit in them, and my kid wont be watching them till he's closer to six or seven.
Ep. 1 and Ep. 2 are pretty benign, but Sith can wait till he's 8ish.
TV's Frink said:
Chewtobacca said:
Come on, Frink! Let's have that avatar back.
I don't know, I kind of enjoy my new one. It won't be around for long, however.
But its so played-out. It's beneath you.
So, Sylvester McCoy is going to be in this thing. He was the best Doctor Who.
Darnit Frink, shape up! Put on a decent avatar and stop your moping!
Ripplin said:
TheBoost was less robot-like today. "Only" a 7. ;)
To have risen so far... to have fallen so fast...
Darth Solo said:
I hate (with a passion) the latest Hollywood fixation with over age actors playing high school kids all the time though.
Is that new? Look at "90210" or "Beach Blanket Bingo." Leslie Howard played Romeo when he was 43.
Has there ever been a time when teens (or even young adults who actually look like teens) have played teens with any regularity?
Gaffer Tape said:
Alexrd said:
generalfrevious said:
Stop milking the cash cow, Lucas. It's been bleeding for the past five years...
Has it? People keep drinking their milk. I never understood that problem. Let a new generation have Star Wars too.
Why does there have to be new Star Wars for a new generation to have it? There's already plenty of Star Wars for this, the next, and every subsequent generation to be satisfied.
That is indeed a line, often from LFL or it's supports I never understood.
"The PT is their Star Wars."
No one ever said "Godfather 3 is their Godfather."
Seems like great casting to me. As a LOTR lover, I couldnt be more excited.
Moth3r said:
Darth Solo said:
Back in the eighties, I saw Jaws 3 at the cinema. Crap acting, non-existent story, a reliance on a 3D gimmick and abysmal special effects.
The 2010 remake of Piranha is even worse.
Neither Jaws 3 or Piranha would have been one iota better if they were shot 2D. Pirhana was about half naked women dying in horrific ways, usually by killer fish.
This Anti-3D stance is odd to me. There have been some crap 3D movies since Avatar, but they were all crap to begin with.
Darth Solo said:
I dont get why adults deprive themselves of watching horror films, my wife was the same. They deprive themselves of a whole genere of film making.
Some people don't watch musicals. Some don't like slapstick. I can't stand biopics. Why should horror get a pass?
What is there against Rick McCallum? Does he have any creative input at all? Isn't he a logistics man who does Lucas's bidding? I know his voice is grating, but seriously, how does he even deserve blame?
WOW. I was like "Slumdog Millionaire" today.
I don't even listen to music anymore, outside of classical stuff and "Paralyzer" by Finger 11.
And yet I just KNEW every answer. It was destiny.
Sluggo said:
What's your opinion? I think less is definitely more. Is more more? Or how much is too much?
I'm all for there being as much EU as the market can support. So what if most of it's crap? Every now and then something good comes out ("Fatal Alliance" was fun).
I think most EU is painfully bad for the same reasons you list; the Universe-shrinking masturbatory obsession with filling in cracks and explaining things. On the other hand I haven't given "Tales from Jabba's Palace" a second thought since reading it in the mid-90s, anymore than I dwell on the two hours I lost watching "First Knight." I certainaly don't watch ROTJ and spend my time thinking about whose brains are in those brain-jar-droids.
The is nothing that can harm my enjoyment of the OT and "Star Wars" in general.