Wow!!
Thank you! Some of its still rough with some of the masking but wanted to see what people thought of the planet effects. Was trying something new with the city lights, lightning and Northern Lights.
Very cool. At 0:45-0:46 one of the background fires is visible through the flying droid, though.
During the attack of Theed? Only part i can think of in that scene is when the flying droid swoops up shot but he doesn’t pass over any fires. Comes close on one frame but not seeing what you mean.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CojxZr026mva-enHpsw6pRn7-EddXnrC/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1x1Sq5BD50vE0PqzN7KTDsfRrqlRr6j9O/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m_BXddrUB1rS3NODf_SC-SoLfv3V0qSb/view
Happy rise of the 5th/Sith!
Episode I Revised The Purist Cut
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RTjQbyspHqfFI5TWx5MxlmnZCyab_YbD/view
Prequel Trilogy Revised
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14UGwyQAzMa8-zKtsRm0jbzF8-0f34n45/view
Oh, thank you! I’ll keep that in mind!
Absolutely, love your ideas and edits and what you’re doing with it all and can’t wait to see the final product!
Are these in Surround sound or Stereo?
The first thing I want to say here is - I LOVE John Williams. The majesty of his soundtracks are one of the only things upon which the entire Star Wars fandom seems to agree, and the music has always been a prominent part of each film’s emotional journey.
But because of this, a lot of fan editors, including myself, have run into an issue in which making even a minor change to a scene will completely throw off the timing of the music. In addition, broader edits which reduce the screen time of certain characters or locations sometimes result in certain musical motifs seemingly going to waste.
But if we were able to alter a film’s music without removing any of the overlying sound, then we could edit the movie and the score independently and not have to make such compromises.
This has already been done to many scenes - some having had their SFX tracks be partially released on the “Star Wars Soundboard” flash game, and others having been reconstructed from scratch by fans for one reason or another.
I’m creating this thread so that all of these edits can hopefully be found in one place, starting with everything I’ve found so far:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQLyRYVY0MA
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEvA4pqbaJo&t=1s
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlleZz4L2RY
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUpl-OSRe5g
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG9WVDvVd0E
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VuAMFJeeJQ
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIVpbS18oJQ
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj-GZJhfBmI
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocxF8HvncrQ
If you’re creating a fan edit and you decide make a “no music” version of a scene, please consider posting it here so that other fan editors won’t have to make their own if they ever decide to do the same.
Also, I spent a while looking and couldn’t find one, but if there’s already a thread like this please tell me and I’ll move there.
This is absolutely awesome and would be such a benefit to what i would like to achieve with my Revised Edits of the Prequels. Much thanks to you and any who can contribute to this. I wanted to look into that Nvidia thing from the other thread but don’t have the required stuff to make it run.
The speedup & pitch increase instantly kill all benefits of PAL for me.
There is an MKV someone made using the 720x576 PAL video from the PAL DVD9, but with the framerate flag reset to 23.976 and the Dolby 5.1 audio from the NTSC DVD9 paired with it. That’s the ideal version of ANH:R at the moment unless you need a disc/menus. It’s available on MySpleen if you have an account (note to all: don’t ask for invites, the site is closed and likely won’t ever reopen).
When converting from Pal to Ntsc i could see that. Do they film in 25 frames per sec in Europe?
Not movies. Theatrical movies are 24fps across the board. Until Blu-Ray, there was no way to watch a theatrical film (or a TV series/TV movie from an NTSC country) at its correct framerate on a PAL home video format. Some movies did pitch correct their releases, but the people still move 4% faster which has a subtly unnatural effect, at least to me.
But Blu-Ray/ATSC now allows for 24p in PAL countries, so 90% of Euro BR releases of films are at the correct framerate.
Shamefully, they did not allow for 25p, so that’s why most Euro TV material on Blu is 1080i, because the only way to avoid changing the framerate is to just run 25p as 50Hz interlaced. The Doctor Who S1-4 Blu-Rays are actually slowed down from 25fps to 24fps so they could make it 1080p (can’t remember if they pitch-corrected for the slowdown, I don’t own the Blu’s of those).
Cause filming at 25 frames a sec is different than converting from 23.what evs to 25, which would cause a speed up.
Of course, but we were discussing which release of a 24fps film to get, so the speed up is important to consider.
Hobbit was filmed at 60 frames per sec with the only effect being the reds were washed out and had to be artificially pumped up on set with overly vibrant reds and make up
No, The Hobbit was filmed at 48fps, and all home video releases just remove half the frames and run it at 24fps, which doesn’t result in any speedup or slowdown. I don’t know what they did for 50Hz PAL DVD releases, but I’d assume they just sped up the 24fps master to 25fps.
Awww, my bad on the Hobbit misquote. I knew it was a higher frame rate but could’ve swore it was higher than that. All in all good to know though and very interesting, thank you
Something I threw together for fun:
https://streamable.com/40modd
I would darken the scene inside out the windows. For the first shot it works since your outside and the camera would be adjusted to the lighting outside, but inside, the camera would be adjusted to the hard lighting, causing the outside to look darker. I find this in many scenes through out the original prequels even, the lighting doesn’t match what a camera would pick up. For example, this is why you can’t see the stars from videos on the moon. The camera is adjusted to the hard lighting on the surface of the moon and can’t pick up the more subtle light of the stars.
Interesting — I grew up with PAL and I don’t notice any difference in speed. I would have thought that the difference in audio pitch would be more noticeable, but I’ve never noticed it either.
Do rock bands in Europe and the Uk tune to 440 or 444hz? I know some symphonies in Europe still use the 444hz or varients like the Baroque tuning. Its a subtle thing but one American band that uses a slight tuning twist is The Red Hot Chili Peppers on Scartissue.
The speedup & pitch increase instantly kill all benefits of PAL for me.
There is an MKV someone made using the 720x576 PAL video from the PAL DVD9, but with the framerate flag reset to 23.976 and the Dolby 5.1 audio from the NTSC DVD9 paired with it. That’s the ideal version of ANH:R at the moment unless you need a disc/menus. It’s available on MySpleen if you have an account (note to all: don’t ask for invites, the site is closed and likely won’t ever reopen).
When converting from Pal to Ntsc i could see that. Do they film in 25 frames per sec in Europe? Cause filming at 25 frames a sec is different than converting from 23.what evs to 25, which would cause a speed up. Hobbit was filmed at 60 frames per sec with the only effect being the reds were washed out and had to be artificially pumped up on set with overly vibrant reds and make up
Hey, I have a question.
I’ve rewatched ANH:R (SD) in it’s PAL Format, during the Battle of Yavin. After finishing watching, I’m not quite sure whether to stick with the PAL Format or, go back to the NTSC Format.
( Considering, I live in the United States )
Is there minor to major differences between them? If so, could you list them?
PAL may have fewer frames per second, but it also has more lines than NTSC. PAL television broadcasts have 625 lines of resolution, compared to NTSC’s 525. More lines means more visual information, which equals better picture quality and resolution.
PAL televisions produce 25 frames per second that causes motion to be displayed faster.
Edit- Long and short, Pal is mostly better.
Really looking forward to this. The prequels trailer is wonderful.
You have no idea how much im anxious to get to the next movies haha trying to take my time tho to get the first one solid
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qV8Q5kfO8-7m1ZsnzsrDF8MpQO3hkRmx/view
The Purist Cut HD TPM
Prequels Revised Trailer 3 - Music mix by Samuel Kim
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1j3WpYN1RJiMIfBYdWz_l8wu39vp-Ftlp
Replaced the planet in all the scenes up to the Escape of Naboo, so all scenes of the planet in the trailers are replaced. Still some cleaning up to do and balancing but a better look at how its coming along. Purist cut trailer is in 1080p, the Prequel trailer is in 720p still due to scenes for Ep 2 and 3 originally being done in 720p. They’ll be redone when i get to those movies. It is mixed out as 1080p though since its mixed with 1080p scenes. So if you play it you can set each to 1080p.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-VEVX2lDwZ9dfPasLQq9MBXaI-9fa2Dj/view
Some scenes with the new planet, still working on them all and all the masking and tracking.
Been tied up with some other stuff and the whole Corona stuff but was able to finally lock down the planet effect and get it to track properly for the shots with weird camera angles. The planet was created in the file with the movie edits, which was composed of many layers. So moving them all in synch and to the camera angles was giving me a pain. I was trying to export a video of the planet out so i could reincorporate it that way via the 3d camera tracker, but was having issues exporting it for some reason (I still don’t know why). Either way though, i got the planet to export with out freezing my computer up and am finishing up those scenes currently and should have a video posted soon. Just masking back in the ships and everything over the planet. After that, the entire intro section should all be done aside from a new intro crawl which ill have to do with Blender (Some one already did a file for use with proper dimensions and fading of the script).
I’ve got blocks of the movie done, so im trying to move through it from front to finish to wrap up everything else that needs to be. Still a few more scenes with a lot of work though.
@Dazman You’d have to change the whole balcony as that’s what’s identifiable later as being part of Palpy’s office. And its just a robe that he’s wearing, nothing that would alert any one who would see him in it. It’s not like they knew who Sidious was at the time, or even suspected him. Suspicion of his presence doesn’t even become a thing till the end of TPM when Yoda and Mace are discussing it.
As far as the effects, just scraping the internet all over for free green screen effects. Just dont go for anything thats not in hd.
This project is very very interesting. I have done some effects in After Effects myself and with the things you are planning to do + Blender stuff, this project can easily rival Adywan’s timetable to the finish line. I love that the prequels are getting this much care though, so they can be up to bar with the Revisited.
I wish the purist version would have the Naboo invasion without the extra flames. I love the planet so much, it’s painful to see it half destroyed right away. 😃 So the purist version could be only polished effects and more radical stuff left to other versions. Your call of cource Sandman…
The only reason ill potentially finish before Ady is because Ady is doing much more work than i am. Models, actors, props, etc. I would love to go as far as him tho.
If your curious, a User named Snooker has a project for the prequels that’s doing some overhauling too.
That is a thought with the city, but idk just yet. I could save it for my Revised versions. Im currently trying to learn Blender, and finish up the planet effects. Work and such gets in the way a lot too, and i don’t want to rush anything. A lot is done tho.
Any progress so far?
Theres some scenes involving the planet that are giving me a pain. Like one, the planets x axis is upright around 45 degrees on its left side. Mean while the planet im over lapping comes into frame and zooms in a weird way. I was trying to match using the camera controls but its proving to be a pain. So i think i’ve gotta close all the other layers and export the planet as a video, then bring it back in and track it to the original planet with the 3d tracker.
(I also spit out a quick copy of The Avengers Infinity War/Endgame in a 4hr cut. Couldn’t help it.)
The main problem I have with getting rid of Midichlorians is that Palpatine mentioned them in the middle of a long shot when he was telling Anakin about the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise. How is it even possible to seamlessly edit out “Midichlorians” from this long shot that slowly zooms in?
I did a cut a while back and made it work decently as “he could use the force to create life”. It was a little jarring but worked okay. Wish I still had the clip.
Holy crap, was that the one where you redid the scrolls in blue? I used them as a base for old edits of mine and just recently came across the disks.
The blue font sounds familiar. stands out in my head.
Any progress so far?
Been a busy month with work and stuff around the house but will have more time after this month to get more progress done.
I created several clean plates throughout the shot and motion tracked them between each other, then rotoscoped that little gremlin out! It works really well in motion and I can’t wait for everyone to see it!
That’s a pretty clever process. Probably makes it a lot easier for when the camera shifts angles
Good. I mean, it’s the end of the movie!
Ha! I know right. Its so forced
Also, idk if you painted him out or masked him out, but very nice job
