TheAlaskanSandman

IlFanEditore said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

Plan to show broadcast like current affairs building up to Nazi Propaganda by Ep III. Will be doing a zoom in to the monitor at this shot as the feed fades from static blue to actually in the Senate Room, via the camera feeds floating around her head. This is after considering some critique of the movie from Mr.Plinkett.

I plan to show the city become more bare of people by Ep III and more war torn.

Really interesting.

Just figured out why some pix were posting smaller so they wont do that any more. Hoping to have a clip up soon

jkimm said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

Looks great!

Thank you!

Anakin Starkiller said:

I actually could get behind that idea, especially since Leiah being a Jedi amounted to nothing.

See that’s part of why I want this change: it’s a plot point that amounts to nothing. The other reason is that it’s universe shrinking to make every

The biggest thing i liked about it was simply Vader using it against Luke.

Which is apparently why it was added in the first place. When Yoda says there is another, it could just as easily be taken to mean Vader.

But I’m getting off topic. This would be better suited to the OT Radical Redux Thread.

It would give more tension to whether Leiah will choose Han or Luke by the end of Return of the Jedi. Keep Luke and Leia sneaking off on Endor but dont show why, then show Han questioning her about it, and getting upset that she could tell Luke some secret she wont tell him.

and back on topic- Aliens, Predators, Et aliens, and Engineers.

Some one include aliens or engineers into Star Wars since they’re part of the same world, as the ship from Blade Runner appeared in EP I, and Blade Runner is in the same universe as Alien. Also, more E.t. aliens, as they are in Ep I also! And maybe some Predators since they’re part of the same universe too.

Artan42 said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

Toying with the grading for the “Battle of the Heroes”. Trying to get rid of a bunch of the red and make it look more natural. Not final yet.

I’m torn. On the one hand I like it and it helps composite the actors into the background better and gets rid of the unnatural hue they’re bathed in and it looks good. However, on the other hand, I almost prefer the vivid red lava and ash as it has a real feeling of Obi Wan being in a physical hell as well as his emotional hell.

Id like it to blend better with Rogue One and Ep IX

Plan to show broadcast like current affairs building up to Nazi Propaganda by Ep III. Will be doing a zoom in to the monitor at this shot as the feed fades from static blue to actually in the Senate Room, via the camera feeds floating around her head. This is after considering some critique of the movie from Mr.Plinkett.

I plan to show the city become more bare of people by Ep III and more war torn.

Ep III is actually mostly green, but the climax battle is very red. I tend to grade the movies scene by scene, not as a whole.

Ill get some examples of the grading for some of Ep II up in a bit. Where the greenish- Orange is removed for a more natural tone.

Ep I was cleared of its pink hue long ago, but i did grade each scene in that movie too to fit the environment and mood and still tweaking things there too.

Toying with the grading for the “Battle of the Heroes”. Trying to get rid of a bunch of the red and make it look more natural. Not final yet.

OutboundFlight said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XHWqd6uNv2rqKoPJfmYcjs43OB3SYKTF/view?fbclid=IwAR3r_lyBB3AslqVBQDaSwwNhgLlRV2oQzhdfftvO_rZd6rJKuyNDjbbylXM

Included a shot from the “Mock up” love scene, plus also a shot from my old Machete Cut, in which there is a lil blood when Anakin takes Dooku’s head.

This is what a more mature Star Wars could be like.

Which for some may like, as before ROTJ, Star Wars wasn’t cutesy yet.

This isn’t what the focus was, but I really like the image of Mace Windu confronting Palpatine by himself. It’s some good rotoscoping.
1). It looks cinematic, like an old western duel
2). It makes Mace seems cocky, as if he’s going to fight Palpatine without telling anyone else beforehand
3). It makes the other Jedi less of a joke when they are beaten by Palpatine’s very simple initial moves

Thank you 😃 I think the original idea was something Ady had planned for the prequels but i only ever saw a still image for an example. I loved the idea so much tho that it became one of the first things i attempted to pull off. Also that if i could pull it off that i would go ahead and edit the rest. So im really happy to hear that it came out looking good and narratively fits the story and mood. Allowing Mace to be the “Bad @ss mother f*cker” he deserves. ( i like to imagine he carries a wallet for proof too ) I wish Mace had gotten more screen time, i always really liked him.

Anakin Starkiller said:

If I were to edit the original, Leia being his sister in the first place would go bye bye because it’s some of the most incredibly sloppy writing in the series’s history.

I actually could get behind that idea, especially since Leiah being a Jedi amounted to nothing. The biggest thing i liked about it was simply Vader using it against Luke.

I actually would be interested to see Han die in Empire also. Maybe Leiah and him already hooked up, so Kylo could grow up with out a father. Leaving him open to Palpatines mentor-ship, as Luke would fill the father role. Adding a touch of the growing up with out a father struggle.

Anakin Starkiller said:

Which for some may like, as before ROTJ, Star Wars wasn’t cutesy yet.

The kiss for luck aboard the Death Star feels pretty cutesy to me.

Go back to Rogue One!

No, that’s just creepy lmao If i were to edit the originals, Luke kissing his sister 3 times would go bye bye lol I think the most cutesy thing up to Empire was Yoda and the droids. To be clear though, the Ewoks never really bothered me, but i do see how they made the films more kids orientated and Lucas started focusing on toys more.
I liked Rogue One for having the stones to kill off everyone. The Vader hallway scene is perfect

Saving me work despite myself. I guess this is the way, the lil womp rat can stay. I can’t guarantee that he’ll fight Dooku though. Maybe. I get the importance of the scene, to show how dangerous Dooku is, but it still comes off as a little silly to me. Idk, well see what happens with ATOC. The movie doesn’t leave the same options as TPM for adding action, so im considering re-arranging scenes and some other ideas to change the pacing and feel of the movie.

For a Machete cut 3-1 its easy enough to manage as the middle act. As a stand a lone, its a little more difficult. Im not even to the Blender side of things though so we’ll see.

Maybe ill keep some of him and just mostly remove the fight between Dooku and Yoda? That’s how my original machete cut played out.

EddieDean said:

I’m relieved to hear that Anakin will remain intact, but suprised you’re cutting Yoda. I can understand cutting his presence in the Dooku fight, and when he fights The Senate in the senate, but are you actually proposing removing him from even the council scenes?

As a fan of the ‘wider canon’, which includes Clone Wars and Rebels, Yoda is an important part the stories which precede his appearance in Empire. But even just taking the movies in isolation, his presence in the prequels doesn’t harm the reveal in Empire - that’s still a suprising moment we can experience through Luke, just as the Vader ‘reveal’ that we all already know can still be enjoyed for its impact on Luke.

I had planned on leaving mention of him, but did plan on removing him visually from the movie. I never liked how he didn’t look like the original and didn’t look as old. The fight scenes are definitely getting removed. Acrobatic Yoda was never my thing, but i am sad to see Palpatine going ape sh*t with the senate seats. (Contemplating how to keep it and re-purpose it). So this wouldn’t technically counter EU material, hopefully.
Mace is the head of the council and the main focus of it imo, up to and including his final showdown with Palpatine. Yoda’s inclusion pulls away from this i feel. I like the idea of him being “around” but not on screen, so also to add to his reveal in Ep V for those who don’t read, watch or play the EU. This may not be as easy as im hoping for all scenes though so we’ll see how it turns out or if it’s possible to remove him fully. If i include him, then i have to show him face Palpatine, or there is no good reason for why he didn’t, and why he ran off. With him already being gone, you can assume order 66 went into effect and he never showed his face again.
Only the Purist Cut is so far planned to have him but again, we’ll see how it all goes.

snooker said:

i dont know what to do about the clouds moving in different directions considering the sky in my clip was literally just footage of a real sky lol

Oh really haha must just be diff winds in the upper atmosphere, my bad. Don’t see that too often

sade1212 said:

Here’s a very flattering demonstration of what Remini can achieve with faces. Unfortunately doing a 100 frame ish shot in this manner takes me about an hour since the workflow involves Photoshop contact sheets, Bluestacks and EBSynth… It also only works with faces which still have a discernible likeness to the actors - the tiny faces in, say, the ROTS rebellion deleted scenes can’t be saved using Remini, since the faces it generates are not right at all.

Oh wow! Cannot wait to see these when they’re done! Please let me know!

G&G-Fan said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

I have zero plans of cutting Anakins journey. The only cuts to Anakin are small things to do with dialogue and snipping a couple creepy looks at padame. Mitachlorines obviously. Not much in ROTS to do with Anakin is being snipped. This is his story and journey. I won’t be hiding Anakin getting maimed by Obiwan or becoming Vader (Except maybe if i do an alt cut to fit Ady’s rough ideas.- He was going to have all sabers blue, and Anakin’s transformation to Vader.) but thats it. I never had a problem with Anakin being shown to be Vader, as i prefer to watch in the Machete order.

I feel a great disturbance in the force, as if every fiber of my being just felt a great swell of relief due to these words.

Glad to hear that! 😄

G&G-Fan said:

I am very impressed by a lot of the changes you are making here. The new visuals look excellent, and I have a lot of respect for you because of that.

One of my only problems though is that I don’t like how this edit tries to hide that Anakin becomes Vader in Revenge of the Sith. The whole crux of the prequel trilogy is that it explains how Anakin became Vader. It’s the very reason audiences are invested, the reason the movies exist. Sure, there’s also the fall of the Republic and the Jedi and Palpatine’s rise to power, but let’s be honest, everybody was most invested in the birth of Vader. There’s so much forshadowing all over the place. Besides, everybody and their grandma knows the twist, so trying to preserve it is pointless work. It’d be like if in the new Planet of the Apes trilogy they tried to hide the fact that it’s on Earth to preserve the twist at the end of the original film that everybody already knows and is essential to know to understand why those movies are being made and the story they are telling (in that case, to show how the apes took over Earth). Anakin’s transformation into Vader are some of my favorite parts of the whole film, I don’t want that erased. Knowing Anakin is Vader and his backstory adds so many layers to the OT as well that weren’t there before, and I’d hate to see that gone too.

And without it it doesn’t make any sense. Obi-Wan says in ANH, “Vader betrayed and murdered your father”, but what we see in Revenge of the Sith is that Anakin betrayed and killed a ton of the Jedi and then was left to burn… and then Darth Vader shows up. Right there everybody will know that Anakin is Vader. According to Obi-Wan’s lie, Anakin remained good and was a victim of Vader’s betrayal. So seeing Anakin betray the Jedi and do evil things only makes sense knowing he’s Vader. We also know that Vader was NOT Obi-Wan’s apprentice, Anakin was; there was no “young Jedi named Darth Vader”, so the lie also falls apart there. With the information that Anakin is Vader we already know Obi-Wan is lying, but it’d be really weird to try to change the films so we won’t know he’s lying when it’s obvious we would.

I also disagree with removing Yoda. It just seems so… weird, that he wouldn’t be there. He’s just rotting away on Dagobah the whole time, letting the whole world crumble? How did he supposedly train Obi-Wan? And I love Yoda in the prequels.

I apologize if I sound like an ass. I am really thankful that you will be making purist versions in this case (and that I’m making my own fan-edits), 😛 as I absolutely love what you’re doing with the visuals and a lot of your ideas (like Dooku in TPM? Genius!), but as I said I disagree with the things above.

I have zero plans of cutting Anakins journey. The only cuts to Anakin are small things to do with dialogue and snipping a couple creepy looks at padame. Mitachlorines obviously. Not much in ROTS to do with Anakin is being snipped. This is his story and journey. I won’t be hiding Anakin getting maimed by Obiwan or becoming Vader (Except maybe if i do an alt cut to fit Ady’s rough ideas.- He was going to have all sabers blue, and Anakin’s transformation to Vader.) but thats it. I never had a problem with Anakin being shown to be Vader, as i prefer to watch in the Machete order. So to be clear.

Revised Version
Purist Cut Version
Machete Cut Version
Revised/Revisited Version to fit with Ady.
I do understand why Ady wants it removed though as watching in chronological order spoils the reveal in Ep V., but it’s not the general direction im going. Other than the Purist Cut versions, my Revised and Machete Cut Versions can be watched before the main Trilogy but are meant to be watched after Ep V and before Ev VI. Difference between the two versions is that one is a trilogy, the other is a 3-1 cut that focuses strictly on Anakins journey. Unlike most Machete cut’s though, mine doesn’t begin with the end of Ep I. It includes quite a bit of Ep I, as i feel the finding of Anakin and the who QuiGon was is important to the narrative. I alter quite a bit though as there is no pod race scene, how Anakin is freed is different, there’s no Space battle and Gun Gun battle in Ep I, and a few other changes.

Yoda will only appear in the Purist Cut in which Dooku will not be apart of. Dooku will be in all other versions. Dooku isn’t my idea though in conception, this is just my take on the idea, as it was a great idea. There’s a few ideas that are not mine, and are things ive heard mentioned for years. Like the visible cord to Padame’s dress, shifting shadows, and see through sabers. There are a tonnnnnnnnn of ideas of mine that would take too long to list though haha i will try though. Things like the saber glow visible on people, replacing the planets and moon, fixing sabers passing through body parts, Swamp gun gun home, attack on Theed, Escape of Naboo with fleet guarding Queen’s ship, saber sparks and flashes, Emergency lights kicking on as lights go out on space station in beginning, replacing background during Maul speaking to Palpatine, adding lightening flashes and moving cars, the destruction of theed as Jedi rescue the Queen, the force push causing smoke and ash to fly out of the way, added camera shakes for dramatics, lighting docking bay in beginning, Emergency lights on Queen’s ship when hit, and bunch of other weird lighting effects and i can’t remember what all else right now off the top of my head haha.
I don’t know where the idea came for Mace to fight Sidious alone, i found a pic online i think on Adywan’s site, so probably him doing test. I never got to see it in motion so this was the first thing i ever tried to do. I will be crediting people on the films who have contributed ideas like Ady or Snooker.
Lots of work though and more ideas i havn’t shown or done up yet and im constantly trying to learn new tricks. Im an artist and have worked in photography and photo editing professionally as a background along with music, but VFX has been a new learning experience but a very fun one.
I greatly appreciate the comments of things people like, don’t like, and or ideas people have. I want these to be enjoyable by all and appreciate the time and interest people have in any of it. Thank you!

(Hope i cleared up Anakin’s Arch a little. Ill try to eventually get separate threads eventually for the main cuts so as not to confuse people. Ill probably wait till closer to being done though)

Edit- Altered main post to reflect this about Vader/Anakin.

Cinefy said:

mrbenjamino said:
in my opinion, I think it’d look better if it was blended into the atmosphere, kinda a lighter blue

Yeah just lower the opacity on that layer.

Maybe too much difference in color behind it as the sky has a lot of variance. Theres a bright cloud behind one tower but the rest behind the tower is dark. Maybe easier to lower the black levels to match the sky and do a filter over it all.

I feel like the clouds are doing what my planets clouds were doing and its too much. They’re moving too quickly and the counter movement of the two layers of clouds is off. Wind should all be blowing the same direction.

DigMod said:

Haven’t looked in here for awhile. That moon replacement screenshot looks fantastic! I’m also intrigued by your Dooku idea. Keep up the good work! 😃

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XHWqd6uNv2rqKoPJfmYcjs43OB3SYKTF/view

Thank you! I don’t know why the other link isn’t playing but here’s a current trailer for example

Just prepping the plate for the scene. Redoing it in 1080p as the original was done in 720p for my machete cut.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XHWqd6uNv2rqKoPJfmYcjs43OB3SYKTF/view?fbclid=IwAR3r_lyBB3AslqVBQDaSwwNhgLlRV2oQzhdfftvO_rZd6rJKuyNDjbbylXM

Included a shot from the “Mock up” love scene, plus also a shot from my old Machete Cut, in which there is a lil blood when Anakin takes Dooku’s head.

This is what a more mature Star Wars could be like.

Which for some may like, as before ROTJ, Star Wars wasn’t cutesy yet.

I really hope this is all just a reaction to some one wanting nudity hahah and not the idea of Anakin and Padame hooking up in an ambiguous tasteful way as i tried to do. Such strong reactions seem equally as adolescent and unnecessary, but thats just me.
Explaining to kids Luke kissing his sister is far more awkward. Plus Han copping a feel when Leiah is shot in ROTJ or slave girls boob pops out when Jabba drops her in the pit.
Just saying, Star Wars has its odd moments. All of which i think should be taken with maturity. I don’t think the mods would let anyone post smut on here, so i think we’re all safe. I agree tho that there shouldn’t be any added nudity or over sexualization of anyone.

As for the scene i attempted. I tried to keep time with the music cues, so tried to fill that time. I picked kissey scenes and slowed them by 25%.

I can probably slow the initial kiss down instead a little bit, keep the transition shot of the lake side house at sunset, maybe include a shot of a fire place going out of focus while you hear (kissing?), then fade out and transition to the nightmare scene. (may try to mask in her head into shot when hes waking up). That way its less Titanic like.

Would really like input on this and be able to talk like mature adults on how best to handle their relationship.

jarbear said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

LeperMessiah117 said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

https://comicbook.com/movies/news/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-rey-palpatine-all-the-jedi-force/

Seeing this more and more

I actually saw somebody I follow link jonh’s clip in my twitter feed earlier this morning.

Really cool to see!! I don’t recall seeing Adywan’s stuff as often even

Adywan was polishing an already polished trilogy. Jonh was helping a turd fest … to be honest.

I think its more fresh in the cultural zeitgeist too honestly. Not to take away from Adywan or any one working on the prequels (like me), i just think the newest trilogy is the most relevant for people now. Plus, yea, it proved to be a mess even compared to the prequel responses when they came out. Prequels at least wrapped up decent with ROTS. Sequels started strong-ish, but didn’t stick the landing to well.