The Nerd

TV's Frink said:

Thanks!  I hope you enjoy the full movie.

I just finished it and what can I say? Let's see, "Awesome", "Mindf***ing", "Extremely funny". I sh*t my pants when Obi-Wan missed the catwalk jump. The subtitles were 100% what Jar Jar was actually saying. Besides a few awful audio cut-off, it's pretty good. You should have used a slight fade for switched up dialogue.

I just saw the Threatrical Trailer, and these are my favorite things from it:

"come at me" "the queen claims she's out of coffee" "are you brain dead? i don't know" "I can fix anything. [clang] oops." "the force is unusually strong with him. that much is clear." "I am queen amidala. i knew it. now there are two if them" The whole Obi-Wan doing pushup and missing the catwalk.

Now I'm going to watch the film. Way to go TV Frink! You rock!

SilverWook said:

Speaking of Pulp Fiction...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7Ad1AuHriI

I also stumbled across some things I never thought to hear Christopher Lee say!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es0sOE_d1Ik

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BImV1ZNiYOw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WNuWNKKSAE

 

 

OMG!!! I can totally see Count Dooku saying the first Christer Lee video in the lightsaber duel. Instead of Dooku saying "you control your fear. Release anger" line, he says "Step to the left, step to the right."

Well here is a way to make an unreleased song. Let's take the Anakin/Obi-Wan fight scene. When Anakin chokes Obi-Wan on Mustafar we hear drums. These drums are, sadly, not included on the soundtrack. So what you do is take the scene into audacity and separate the audio channels. Listen to each channel 1 at a time and delete the parts of each channel that are sound effects (and/or dialogue). Then you take the soundtrack song and move it into position to line up with the movie music. Delete any thing other than the drums and what do you get? A film version of "6M4 Heroes Collide" aka "Anakin VS Obi-Wan".

adywan said:

They gave the transport a name? Oh god. And people wonder why i hate the EU and completely disregard anything to do with the EU for my edits ;)

But seriously, we already have a scene that shows a transport escaping. The film doesn't need another one. Adding in scenes just for the hell of it or to show something we don't really need to see completely destroys the flow of the film. You only have to look at the added scenes of Vader flying to his shuttle to see just how adding wrong something like that is.

Yep, it has a name. "I'm a person and my name is Anakin Bright Hope." (Alright, shut up). Then what if on the DVD, you include it as a deleted scene. Just like your Death Star Jar Jar joke?

Well, true. Quite true. Well, I could include all the credits, but going at a faster speed. It's something to think about.

TV's Frink said:

You are not the first to suggest using Pulp Fiction.  However, you are the first to suggest that specific exchange (as far as I can remember).  I like it!

Thanks. Whenever I watch ROTS, I just imagine the scene to turn out like what I posted. :)

Leonardo said:

He means no one in their right mind would sit though six movies with a notepad writing down each time the word "the" is said. He obviously got the data by using a text editor's search function on transcripts of the films.

Oh, okay. That makes sense.

timdiggerm said:

What....what source are you using? If we're talking about a 5.1 sound mix for a film, your 5 channels are front left, center, front right, rear left and rear right (in some order), plus a 6th channel for the subwoofer ("LFE" or something?) Sound effects, dialogue and music are going to be mixed across all of them, although most dialogue will fall in the front, I think.

Exception: I've heard Clone Wars just keeps dialogue in the center channel.

The source is the widescreen DVDs, i don't think the aspect ratio has anything to do with the sound. But I was able to remove all the sound effects during for my ROTS complete score during the It Can't Be cue scene, where we see part of mustafar and then Anakin crying. Part of the cue that you hear in the scene is unreleased while most is heard on the track Anakin's Dark Deeds.

Wexter said:

The Nerd said:

The channels work like this: Audio channels 1 and 2 are dialogue, channels 3 and 4 are sound effects, and channels 5 and 6 are the music score. 

Pretty sure it does not "work" like this...

Well, it's something like close to that. I know the back channels are reserved for music. I don't really mess around with any of the other channels that much.

none said:

The Nerd wrote:

none said:

The 282 'the's in Star Wars, 195 in ESB, 163 in RotJ, 301 in TPM, 230 in AotC and 288 in RotS have a gripe with this thread.

You actually counted? You have no life. LOL

*shakes head* Where to begin.  Why do you use the name you do then mock people who do something which is quote unquote classic nerd behavior.  And please stay ignorant of the find/replace function of text applications.

I don't understand? Is it my "you have no life. LOL" statement? "You have no life" is suposse to be said in a friendly way. You know, when your friends joke around and they say  stuff like "you [laugh] have [laugh] no [laugh] life [laugh]."

Now when you say "why do you use the name you do then mock people who do something which is quote unquote classic nerd behavior." I assume that you mean my Forum name and the "you...life" statement. On this forum, I call myself "The Nerd" because that's what people in high school/college nicknamed me because I was at all 6 SW films on opening day, I was actually first in line for each.

What do you mean by "and please stay ignorant of the find/replace function of text applications"?

adywan said:

Yeh, this was discussed a long time ago. I went through and watched everything in depth to see what could be added, but then realised that nothing needs to be added. The Imperial fleet are long gone by the time Luke and the last few stragglers leave. Vader is after the Falcon and we see that they are pursuing Han & co. Vader and the other ships are there too. Vader isn't bothered about defeating the Rebels but only interested in getting Luke. He knows that capturing the Falcon is the key to ensnaring his son or that Luke may be onboard the Falcon. So Vader and the fleet blockade are gone, enabling Luke's easy escape.

What about adding in a scene where some Star Destroyers attack Bright Hope. BH is the last ship seen leaving as Luke gets ready to leave. More info is here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bright_Hope#Battle_of_Hoth

You don't have to show that much, just do something like this:

The ships takes of (img 1), we see a closer shot of the ship (img 2), a Star Destroyer fires on it (img 3). We then cut to Luke's X-Wing leaving the planet. I think we shouldn't get to see what happen to BH, but if you want to, then it's fine by me.

emanswfan said:

The Nerd said:

 

The music is in sync with the movie...blah blah blah blah blah...dialogue or sound effects to interrupt the experience.

Yes, I wouldn't think the score would be absolutely perfect, a comment on Amazon had said so though.  With a little editing around though, it would certainly help with that film.

Interesting info info about TUE's there.  It's really sad they cancelled those editions for the other films.  John Williams music is still beautiful, though a tad repetitive in the prequels.  Although there is better music out there for parts, which is the point of all this.

Some music can be heard in the video games. ROTS has a lot of unreleased music in the games. I'm working on making a TUE for AOTC and ROTS. The only problem is that AOTC has the least amount of unreleased music. Really the only released music is on the soundtrack and about 15 minutes in video games and tracked music from TPM.

So let's do some math here. Th film is 142 minutes, or 2h 22m. The soundtrack is 74 minutes, or 1h 14m, of music. Music in the games is 15m. So, 142 - 74 (ost) - 15 (games + TPM) = 53. Now we have 53 minutes of the film left. About 5-10 minutes of what's left has no music. 48-43 minutes remain unreleased. That's close to an hour, so about an hour of music has not been released.

How likes The Phantom Menace, but hates the way certain things are presented? Then you’ve come to the right place. This fan-edit will be the way TPM should have been. No Midi-Chlorians, Jar Jar, pointless dialogue. I will admit that I actually like the prequels. But not as much as the Original Trilogy. Now let’s get going.

The Phantom Nerd Edit will be using the Blu-ray version. Why? Well for several reasons. The visuals are a lot better, we see more of the movie sides, and there are a few Deleted Scenes that will be used. I will also use the DVD because it contains some Deleted Scenes that were actually pretty good. If anybody has any ideas or questions, feel free to leave them in a comment.

Updates:

• Change List: (note: the list is not complete yet. the former list is below)

1. A new opening title crawl.
2. The title crawl will be retimed to enter in the correct cue.
3. Nute’s “distract them” will be cut, but the rest of his line “I will…” will be kept.
4. Jar Jar will not be seen or heard. In fact, all the Gungans and the Gungan plot will be omitted in this edit.
5. Anakin’s home\building the podracer scenes will be edited to omit Jar Jar.
6. All shots of Yoda will be the CGI version.
7. Palpatine’s clothes will be changes to blu in a shot.
8. The battle sequences will be re-edited to match the order in the script. (See “Sequences Re-Edited” below)
9. The film ends after the shot of Palpatine during the funeral.
10. Credits will be inserted for anybody who has helped out. These include suggestions, technical help, editing, etc.

• Former List: (soon to be deleted)

1. A new opening title crawl.
2. <span>NO F@%#ING JAR JAR!!! He will be removed as well as the rest of the Gungans. The entire Gungan plot is going to be cut.</span>
3. <span>Only one Podrace lap. Most of all three laps will be included, but the scenes of them going threw the start\finish lines will be cut.</span>
4. <span>No Gungan vs Droid battle. The only battles will be the space battle, Jedi vs Sith and Padme & group vs Droids.</span>
5. <span>The lightsaber duel will be re-edited to be even faster and fiercer. As well as the battle sequences rearranged.</span>
6. <span>No more talk of there damn midi-chlorians. Didn’t Tarkin call the Force a religion. As a matter of face, I have Tarkin sitting right next to me. Hey Tarkin, is the force a religion. “Yes it is. I once said ‘The Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe. You, my friend, are all that’s left of their religion’.” Thank you Tarkin, I’m glad that this matter has been settled.</span>
7. <span>The end credits will be slightly faster. Everybody who was a cast or crew member will be named. Also, credits will be inserted that include anybody who helped out on this edit.</span>
8. <span>All of the battle droids long dialogue (as in the scenes “don’t worry, if they’re down here…” and “where are you taking them…uh coruscant…you under arrest”) will be replaced with the simple “roger roger” and “blast them” lines.</span>
9. <span>Tusken Raiders will take out more than just one Podracer, they’ll take out about 3 or 4. Sebulba won’t start cheating until it’s just him and Anakin.</span>
10. <span>NEW ENDING! This is how it will end: Qui-Gon will have his funeral. Yoda and Mace will talk about which Sith was destroyed, the master or the apprentice. A shot of Palpatine will then follow, then the credits start. The Parade reveals to many Gungans. The shot of Palpatine silently tells which Sith was actually destroyed and which Sith lives on.</span>
11. CGI Yoda will be used.
12. Before Darth Maul is sliced in half, he will have a very short battle with Obi-Wan.

• Deleted Scenes That Will Be Used:

1. Complete Podrace Gride Sequence (DVD) Some things will be cut
2. Extended Podrace Lap Two (DVD) Some things will be cut
3. The Air Taxi Sequence (DVD)
4. Dawn Before The Podrace (DVD)
5. Anakin Scruffles With Greedo (DVD)
6. Farewell To Jira (DVD)
7. Lightsaber Duel Shots (DVD Documentary)
8. Various space battle shots (DVD Documentary)
9. Anakin’s Return (Blu-ray) The shot of the starship landing will be fixed and the Blue Screen shots will also be fixed
10. Extended Podrace Wager (Blu-ray)

• Deleted Scenes That Will Not Be Used:

1. The Water Fall Sequence (DVD)
2. <span style=“line-height: normal;”>Trash Talking Droids (Blu-ray)</span>
3. <span style=“line-height: normal;”>The Battle Is Over (Blu-ray)</span>
4. <span style=“line-height: normal;”>Battle On The Boarding Ramp (Blu-ray)</span>
5. <span style=“line-height: normal;”>Bail Organa Of Alderran (Blu-ray)</span>

• Sequences Re-Edited:

1. <span style=“font-size: 12px;”>The Battle Of Naboo: </span>Nute, Rune, and Maul talk to Sidious. Padmé’s group and the Jedi sneak back to the palace. The AAT is destroyed and the battle begins. Padmé’s group rush into the hangar and start blasting droids. Nute and Rune think the battle is way to close. Anakin looks for a good hiding place. The Naboo starfighters leave the hangar. Padmé’s group start to head to the throne room. The Jedi start to battle the Sith. Anakin sees the Destroyer Droids begin to fire. Anakin starts up the ship and blasts them. The duel continues. Padmé’s group rush into the hall to go the long ways. Anakin begins to blast off into outer space. The duel continues again. The Naboo starships engage the Vulture Droids. Anakin spots the space battle. The duel goes into the power generator area. Padmé says they need to hurry and Panaka blasts the window. Anakin fights in the battle. The Naboo starfighters fire on the central control tower. Anakin is hit and crash-lands in the Droid Control Ship. Obi-Wan gets knocked of the ledge and he runs to catch up to Qui-Gon. The Jedi and Sith get trapped in the force fields. Padmé and her group run down the hall and get ambushed by Droids. Qui-Gon and Darth Maul fight and Qui-Gon gets hit. Nute tells Padmé it’s time to sign the treaty. Padmé tells Nute it’s time to sign a new treaty. Obi-Wan and Darth Maul fight. Obi-Wan gets knocked into the it. Obi-Wan uses the force to leap and kill Maul. Qui-Gon dies. Anakin lands in the Naboo Hangar.

ray_afraid said:

georgec said:

Faster

More intense

That was for the OT. For the PT it seems to have been:

"Slower... More half-assed."

Don't you mean "Molasses is winter" instead of "slower" and "less intense - let's bore the crown with some midi-chlorians crap"?

 

none said:

The 282 'the's in Star Wars, 195 in ESB, 163 in RotJ, 301 in TPM, 230 in AotC and 288 in RotS have a gripe with this thread.

You actually counted? You have no life. LOL

emanswfan said:

Just found this:

http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Episode-Phantom-Ultimate/dp/B000051VYS/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1367632043&sr=1-1&keywords=star+wars+ultimate+edition

This apparently is the music exactly in sync with the original theatrical cut of the film.  So with editing it back to the original version, syncing the music exactly, you could inverse the phase of the music and eliminate the music and retain the dialog and sound effects with little to no distortion.

Now, if only a CD was released like this for Ep. 2 and 3.

The music is in sync with the movie, except a few places have been cut short, just to move the music along faster:

• Disc 1:

1. Track 4 Death Warrant For Qui-Gon And Obi-Wan and Track 5 Fighting The Destroyer Droids. The ending string hold has been cut to about 3 seconds.
2. Track 20 Desert Winds. This is a bonus track and was not used the film at all.
3. Track 31 The Flag Parade does not repeat.
4. Track 31 The Flag Parade and Track 32 Sebulba’s Dirty Hand / Qui-Gon’s Pep Talk. The start of track 32 starts sooner.

• Disc 2:

1. Track 15 The Queen And Her Group Sneak Back To The Palace and Track 16 The Battle Begins. The ending of track 15 is cut short, it flows right into Track 16 without stopping.
2. Track 32 End Credits. This track is not the film ending. The film uses an extremely edited version, TUE version is the same as the album.

No TUEs were made for Episode II and III because fans hated this soundtrack for some reason. They bitched and complained about getting a film score, so Sony released a score. About the time Sony was going to release a TUE for AOTC, that's when people started hated the TUE of TPM, so Sony terminated the project for Star Wars TUE. I once saw the Sony webpage advertising the TUE for Episode II and it said that all music in the finished film would be on the 2 disc soundtrack, including all the edited Geonosis battle music from Episode I. I would include a link to the page, but Sony shut the page down several years ago.

Some music was recorded for TPH and first appeared in AOTC. Confusing right? Well, I'll explain. Some music cues were unused because they were part of deleted scenes. So in 1999 lucas basically said Williams "look, when I make Episode II, I'll be sure to include some of the cues from Episode I that were deleted during the Battle of Geonosis. So don't write to much of a battle score when the time comes." and Williams basically said "Sure. Okay."

The Phantom Menace TUE is good when you want to watch the film and just hear the music score, not dialogue or sound effects to interrupt the experience.

To remove the music, sound effects, or dialogue, you have to use a program like Audacity. The channels work like this: Audio channels 1 and 2 are dialogue, channels 3 and 4 are sound effects, and channels 5 and 6 are the music score. I'm working on my own TPM edit and I removed part of Duel Of The Fates and inserted "6M7 The Great Duel". "6M7" was going to be used, but was deleted for favoritism of Duel Of The Fates. 

Instead of Palpatine explaining to Anakin who Darth Plagueis is, he says this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVXSDzaevjc

When Anakin is in front of the Jedi council, Mace Windu says line from the "Say what again!" scene from pulp fiction. Here's the scene:

• MACE: Anakin Skywalker, we have approved your appointment to the Council as the Chancellor’s personal representative.
• ANAKIN: I will do my best to uphold the principles of the Jedi Order.
• YODA: Allow this appointment lightly, the Council does not. Disturbing is this move by Chancellor Palpatine.
• ANAKIN: I understand.
• MACE: You are on this Council, but we do not grant you the rank of Master.
• ANAKIN: What? ! How can you do this?? This is outrageous, it’s unfair . . . I’m more powerful than any of you. How can you be on the Council and not be a Master?
• MACE: Take a seat, young Skywalker.
• ANAKIN: Forgive me, Master.

Here's the new edited scene. At the end, Mace has a few more words added into his "take a seat" line. The words can be takes from anywhere in Pulp Fiction where Jackson says the words. They have [] around them.

• MACE: Anakin Skywalker, we have approved your appointment to the Council as the Chancellor’s personal representative.
• ANAKIN: I will do my best to uphold the principles of the Jedi Order.
• YODA: Allow this appointment lightly, the Council does not. Disturbing is this move by Chancellor Palpatine.
• ANAKIN: I understand.
• MACE: You are on this Council, but we do not grant you the rank of Master.
• ANAKIN: What?
• MACE: What country you from!
• ANAKIN: What?
• MACE: "What" ain't no country I know! Do they speak English in "What?"
• ANAKIN: What?
• MACE: English-motherfucker-can-you-speak-it?
• ANAKIN: What?
• MACE: Say "What" again! C'mon, say "What" again! I dare ya, I double dare ya motherfucker, say "What" one more goddamn time!
• ANAKIN: What?
• MACE: [Shit!] Take a [goddamn fucking] seat, young [motherfucker] Skywalker.
• ANAKIN: Forgive me, Master.

"Oh my god! It's eating me alive!"

Han shot himself first.

Has anybody guessed what Lucas' favorite word is? It's "no". Lets take a look:

• Episode I: Gui-Gon dies: Obi-Wan screams "Noooooo!"
• Episode II: Anakin cries out "No!" as he has the nightmare about Shmi.
• Episode III: Palpatine says "No. Noooo!" before shocking Mace Windu
• Episode III: Vader learns that Padme is dead and screams "Noooooo!"
• Episode IV: Obi-Wan dies and Lukes cries out "No!"
• Episode V: Luke cries out "No. No. That's not true." and "Nooo! Noo! No!"
• Episode VI: A Gunk Droid gets tortured and screams "No!"
• Episode VI: Vader cries "No. Nooooo!" as Luke almost dies in the (butchered) Blu-ray version.

rockin said:

The Nerd said:

rockin said:

I wonder if this would have happened had they all been released in 3D...

Well, Episode II is going to be released in 3D this year, I believe. But they better not do this in the ROTJ 3D version!

I thought they all were cancelled ?

Hmmm... I might do that. Jar Jar might be red. It will signify that the red means hell and the blue means heaven.

rockin said:

I wonder if this would have happened had they all been released in 3D...

Well, Episode II is going to be released in 3D this year, I believe. But they better not do this in the ROTJ 3D version!

Awesome stuff. But be sure to edit the opening crawl so the alignment is correct.

brash_stryker said:

In case it helps you, that was the second time right there.

Whatever.