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Vaderios, I love the breaking glass idea in the explosion mockup. I hope Ady uses that!
Vaderios, I love the breaking glass idea in the explosion mockup. I hope Ady uses that!
So, are all the shots in the trailer final, or are some of them still work in progress?
Amazing trailer, Ady! The Cloud City shot looks extremely well done, as does almost everything else in the trailer.
However, I do have some small nitpicks.
In the shot of the balcony, Lando, Leia, and Chewie's outlines are pretty blurry. I'm sure this is ILM's fault, and not Ady's, but is there any way of making their outlines a bit more sharp?
In the shot of the Hoth soldiers lining up with their guns, the new background looks just a bit too much like a matte. Maybe add some subtle shadows or something to make it a little more three-dimensional?
Other than that, absolutely perfect trailer. I was kinda looking forward to seeing the lightsabers not flicker at all, but the way they look in the trailer is most definitely an improvement over the way they looked and flickered in the original movie.
Also, how come you decided to remove the TIEs firing in the trailer? I liked that addition.
Laserschwert said:Here's the (more or less) "photoreal" newspaper:
Version 1 (full 1080p)
Version 2 (720p with panning and zooming)
The masks are still the same, so the Dean's arm is still going behind the newspaper, and the bible's edges are still a bit rough when it goes in front of the paper. I'll fix those when finalizing the thing with a proper article. Any ideas on that?
Great work, Laser! It really looks like the newspaper was on the table when they shot the scene!
Very nice, Laser! I think two is the best, as one is too quick and three is unnaturally slow. Keep up the great work!
Janskeet said:Why did Adywan remove the flying droid from this shot?
I don't mind the change, but I don't see why it needed to be removed?
Pointless, distracting CGI.
Happy birthday, Ady!
ihnradio said: He told us that he has seen your ANH:R DVD, and he and Dave Filoni watched it, along with a some people at Lucasfilm. And they are following your ESB:R.
Am I the only one worried by this?
jones1899 said:"In the meantime I've had a chance to work out a little something else that was niggling me near the end. :)"
Do tell...:)
Yes, please!
Dr.Inza said:
Sounds alrigt if u can film something like a pile of news papers being thrown on the ground than yea it could work
Yeah, I agree. I think it would be kinda weird if the newspapers would just come out of nowhere, but if they were on a table or something similar, then I think that would be better.
Ripplin said:So, what did Luke mean by 'there's something familiar about this place?' :p
I'm wondering the same thing.
Sevb32 said:X-Wing Mechanic said:Prognosis:
I loved the new clip! Yoda is full of life now, especially when he says, "You will become an agent of evil." I remember that the puppet's mouth movement was terribly unconvincing in the originals which "takes one out" of the fantasy and the suspension on the ordinary. The new mouth movement and expressions are subtle but powerful. Adywan is a great magician!
I do have a critique. When Ady enlarged Obi Wan so that he fits the size of Yoda in the scene there is a very noticeable loss of resolution. Two ways around this: return Obi Wan to original size and place some branches in front of him to show that he is some distance behind Yoda; or shrink Yoda a little so that he fits in with the original Obi Wan.
I loved the shot of Cloud City. The clouds really give dimension to the previously flat and obviously painted shot. The red sky car (I don't know what they are called) is a bit jarring though since it contrasts the beautiful sky scene with a very passionate red. I know some of the shots were temps and are still under construction. I hope my thoughts are somewhat useful.
X-Wing Mechanic
Did I miss a clip? The one with Obi being closer to Yoda?
It's probably the new clip you get to see after sending a donation to Ady.
So Ady, how much money in donations do you need?
havoline said:again we are going beyond what I was originally talking about: bullit shells ejected from blasters in the movies. To be removed or kept in the movie??
Hopefully removed.
Darth Piccolo said:`oh how about this, "man with sword, his father (vader slices luke's arm) they don't get along very much"
Give credit to the Nostalgia Critic for that one.
Savage said:corellian77 said:LOL... I vote ady put Ric Olie into every scene of ESB:R from this point onward.
-- "That's Darth Vader, Luke's father... and look, he just lopped off his right hand."
I have never found myself laughing out loud while reading something on the internets. Now I have! :) Good stuff.
Same here!
Sevb32 said:This is supposed to be about 24 years later, not 24 hours later after the burns. Nothing wrong with it as it stands already. They intentionally made it worse in ROTS and rationalized he would have had some skin grafts and 20 some years to heal.
I agree.
adywan said:comparisons here:
Awesome, especially that last one. Huge improvement!
Looks great, Ady! Need comparison pics!
adywan said:teasers coming in about 5 mins.
Can't wait!!
Very nice, Ady! Can we get a comparison pic, please? :)
Looks great! Comparison pics please!
InfoDroid said:Thanks, m.s! Yes, you're right about the structure. It's similar to what I did with Temple. And OMG it feels so much more like INDY again! :)
Originally posted on FE.com:
Okay, guys...I'm back to actively editing this. Gaith got me charged up, reignited my interest in this movie. Should be completed within a month or so.
Here's what to expect: It's going to be a very unique arrangement of the scenes. Timeline has been rearranged to make it more interesting to watch. In addition to that, I've eliminated the weird candy coloring and desaturated and darkened up the picture to give it that washed-out, almost Saving Private Ryan look. This film, like AOTC, really benefits from this treatment.
-We start with the Lucasfilm logo and a black-and-white version of the very last scene of Raiders with Indy and Marion on the steps and the subsequent scene of the Ark being crated and hidden away in the warehouse. (Thanks to Gaith's suggestion. I thought it sounded crazy at first, LOL, then I tried it and really loved it. It's a nice little preamble which happens to be relevant to both the Indy/Marion relationship and the warehouse scene we see later.)
-Then, as the Paramount logo fades into the pointed stone spire at the graveyard in Orellana's Cradle. We go underground into an opening credits sequence I've cut as close as I could to echo the feeling of the very beginning of Raiders. Not a lot of dialogue at first. It's dark and mysterious. Title reads: PERU 1957. Indy, his face almost disappearing into the shadows of the cave he's navigating...his scared-stiff sidekick trailing along behind him...
-They find the crystal skull and are amazed..."What IS this thing?"
-Fade to a jet flying overhead...jeeps pulling up to a military base. Title reads: SEVERAL DAYS EARLIER. (Not sure if I should keep it like this, or specify the number of days.) "I had no reason to beleive Mac was a spy". Cut inside to interrogation room, Indy sitting at table. "We did twenty...thirty missions together in the Pacific." The scene plays out up to: "What was in the steel box they took?" "You tell us..." comes the response, as we cut to trucks pulling up to a checkpoint in the desert. "You've seen it before." Title reads: NEVADA 1957. The Russians shoot the soldiers and drive further into the desert toward the base...American flag waving as they speed away.
-Cut to Indy looking defiantly at the interrogators. "It was the middle of the night, I was thrown into a bus with blacked-out windows...etc." up to "And we were threatened with treason if we ever talked about it. So you tell me...what was in the box?!?" Cut to trunk being opened. Mac is dragged out. So is Indy.
-Replaced "Not as easy as it used to be" with trailer version. Cut all banter between Mac and Indy and Dovchenko. Now, Dovchenko's jeep pulls up, Mac groans and Dovchneko balls up a fist to slug Indy. Spalko stops him. "Where was he found?" "They were digging in the dirt looking for this stuff." Stuff gets thrown on the ground and breaks, immediately followed by Spalko's FBI file getting thrown on the table in front of Indy in the interrogation room. "Yeah, that was her. Who is she?" "Irina Spalko, Stalin's fair-haired girl...etc..etc...if you call psychic research science."
-Cut to the giant Hangar 51 doors opening. General Ross continues his description through voiceover as they walk into the hangar. "She's leading teams from the Kremlin all over the world looking for...etc."
-Hangar scene continues with heavy editing for pacing, dialogue, creaky editing, etc. No compass jokes. No "I like Ike." No "You don't know him!" being screamed 40 times. And I kept the reveal of the alien body hidden, so we don't really know what's in the box until later. I like it better that way.
-All prairie dog shots were removed, some shots were re-arranged and most of the comedy schtick on the rocket sled is edited out. I left just enough in there to keep the classic Indy charm.
-Transition from Indy hiding from the Russians, fading to dawn. "So what exactly am I being accused of?" "Nothing yet....etc, etc." Scene plays out from there until we go to the college.
That's all I'll elaborate on for now. I'll get some more details up here soon.
I'd like to know the general consensus on the conversation Indy and Mutt have when they arrive at Peru. "Don Pancho Villa" and all that. I always found it strange that the uneducated Mutt even knew who Pancho Villa was. It was a strange, after-school special-like conversation intended to provide some more backstory for Mutt's character. In my opinion, it's not really needed and I'd like to cut it out. But I'd like to know how other people feel about that scene.
More later.
--ID
Great ideas. Like doubleofive said, the intercutting will really move the film along. Good job!
RoccondilRinon said:Because it's out of focus and/or still falling?
OK, then. I thought it looks a bit too Photoshoppy with the blur, but I'm sure it will look fine in motion.
adywan said:OK well it's Thursday here again so heres this weeks new pic......
Credit to Vaderios for the section of his matte i used for this shot
Nice, but why is the fallen AT-AT blurry?
doubleofive said:For those interested, I did a rough cut of Lando dying:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Am4g36Ugm8
Also tried some color correction. So much fun!
I like it. :)
This reminds me of some things that bugged me in ROTJ.
1. The guy who gets blown up at 0:58 in the above video looks like he's yawning. WTF?
2. When Lando says "That was too close" there's a very strange echo.
3. When Han asks Leia if she loves Luke, she says that she does but it looks like she expects Han to know that Luke is her brother. WTF?