The Aluminum Falcon

True. I had an idea last night. Remember how Arnie d. was offering his X9 captures of the JSC to anyone who would finish the project. Maybe you could average a capture of the X0 with a capture from the X9. After all, they are the best laserdisc players ever made. The results may be astounding if someone had the right equipment to make this happen...

Although, yes. These laserdiscs are limited but that's no reason not to try pushing the limit. :-D

msycamore said:

It's already IVTC'd, basically just encoding left if I decided to just upload it as it is. I'm not sure I get what you mean by a "rudimentary '04 bootleg style transfer"?... So, I'm leaning towards just leaving it as it is. IVTC'd and resized from a 5-cap median.

stretch009 said:

All is forgiven. : )

That's good. Thank you.

Oh humblest of apologies stretch009. I honestly did not see your post. I probably thought you were 46fleetline since you too had no avatar. Just shot you a PM. Didn't mean to be harsh at all. I just wanted to send the PMs right away after I got home and I didn't notice that there were four requests.

Very sorry.

SilverWook said:

First 16mm SE print I've ever seen listed though.

Interesting... I didn't know that they ever made 16mm prints of those. I figured that they would be tight on distributing those.

I do agree with Murry Sparkles. Lee Thorogood's set does look pretty sweet and it has 5.1 sound, which is far better than the 2004 DVD's. You can get it on the Newsgroups and it's well worth your time. Alternatively, you can try the Reivax Digital Broadcast for ANH, where the links are available on tehparadox.

If you love the Reivax and don't notice the smearing, go for the G'Kar of ESB and ROTJ, available on torrent sites. Glad to see an old member back by the way. A lot's changed since '05.

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

If it's the complete film, the soundtrack might be interesting.

Agreed. It would make a unique sounding sound track indeed, very old sounding. Is it stereo or mono?

HardCorr, Bester, and 46fleetline, I sent you all links to the new digital copy. I hope you enjoy it. Just ignore my PM if you already have the links from someone else.

I agree with Bingowing's idea! That would make a fantastic menu clip. It's good to see work on this especially in light of how godawful the Blu-Rays will be. :-D

+1 with bkev. Don't lump a whole generation as uncultured. Trust me eventually reason will win out even with today's kids. As they mature, they'll naturally realize what's better.

(In case, anyone's wondering, yes I am part of the Post-SE generation and I do like the real Original Trilogy much better)...

Honestly, I'm not exactly sure what happened with this but please don't cancel this. Don't feel the need to exactly replicate Black Magic or complexly average it with the GOUT; this is your project not exactly what the old X0 was. A fantastic IVTC'ed X0 transfer of the JSC would be more than enough. If it bothers you, you don't even need to do audio work or color correction.

I agree with ChainsawAsh in the fact that the GOUT has been taken to it's limit. However the potential of the JSC is relatively unexplored. A stellar transfer might be of use to future projects. If someone eventually discovers a way to "Black Magic" this, then this will be available for them to work with. The JSC has after all, no clipped whites or smearing. It will be interesting to see how near GOUT quality one can extract from it.

As for using the fixed Special Widescreen Edition, Mallwalker and msycamore have described its many issues, from crosstalk to rainbowing. Msycamore seems to be doing a transfer of it, so we may learn more about that particular release in the near future. To cut to the chase, the JSC may be a better source... for the moment.

I do agree with the two above posters. Even raw transfers would be of interest!

Thank you for finding this. It looks quite nice. Was the Z version the most widely spread of them all?

Glad you decided to transfer the JSC, as others have the GOUT/Def. Collection handled already. It was already very impressive how nice the V8 transfer looked so with an X0...

You mentioned you are doing color correction. How far are you going with that? The JSC has a unique color palette. Even though it is not theatrically accurate it is interesting. For example, the binary sunset looks unique without some tints...

If you eventually need one, I'd be willing to be a tester of this, BTW.

If no one has forwarded the links, I will when I get home in 12 hours. Apologies since it's hard to forward the links fron an iPhone.

Interesting thread. My personal cannon (in chronological order) is:

1. Star Wars: Episode I- Shadow of the Sith (by L8wtr)
2. Star Wars: Episode II- The Republic Divided (by L8wtr)
3. Star Wars: The Clone Wars Animated Series (the 2005/2006 one)
4. Star Wars: Episode III- Dark Force Rising (by KERR)
5. Star Wars: Revisited
6. Star Wars: The Holiday Special (I actually like to believe that this is the story told from Lumpy's Point of View and Imagination and that what really happened was a bit more sinister.)
7. The Empire Strikes Back: Adywan's Theatrical Reconstruction (This is one of the versions to depict Hoth to be perfectly white).
8. Star Wars: Episode IV- Return of the Jedi Theatrical Version
9. Star Wars Battlefront II (especially parts like Wampas attacking Rebels)

Thanks for the links!

Personally, 720p is high enough quality and 1080p could be overkill. As Harmy reasoned, 720p is better for AVCHDs.

X0-1138 said:

Well, I'm open to suggestions as to which laserdiscs are the best quality.

The Definitive Collections probably have the best quality but unless you can muster more quality out of than the GOUT, it would be similar to Zion's raw capture, as said. The laserdiscs will tend to be lower quality (in most places) since the GOUT was sourced from the laserdisc master.

I know that many people will disagree with me but I agree with toho-scope. A JSC transfer may be interesting, especially upscaled to 1080p. It is older and a less clear picture but won't have the smearing that the upscale might emphasize. The colors also are unique (eg. Hoth is completely white).

In any case, good luck on this project!

Brilliant. I love it.

adywan said:

I haven't got ROTJ yet but someone posted a video of it over on facebook. I'm just about to start watching ESB now. Wish me luck.....

Adywan, "I can't lie to you about your chances but you have my sympathies..."

Wait, I just had a thought. It isn't possible that that awful Obi-Wan call is Matthew Wood vocalizing is it? He said he was going to be in every movie...

Oh my; those new changes are truly awful. Vader saying "No!"; I wouldn't even expect that of a bad fan edit... Obi-Wan's new call is way too overemphasized. It seems that Frink shouldn't do a version of Episodes IV-VI; these are humorous enough.

It would be truly mind boggling if people defended these changes...

Nice! You are a god-save, Asaki! It's nice that these get released. I looked over both of these and you're right they are the original versions. They are low quality but it's fine. This is awesome!

If I ever see whether or not the No Mutant Is An Island DVD has the original version, I'll report it here.

*Changed the Thread Title BTW*

I never realized Luke's lightsaber was cyan in A New Hope. I always assumed it to be the same as Ben's since it appears a similar tone in ESB. I suppose that's why it got so screwed up with the '04 color changes.