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#552287
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Info: 3D Movies Unavailable on Official DVD in 3D... (Request List in 1st Post)
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I looked at the links you guys posted. While Jaws 3D is indeed available on Sensio 3D, the anaglyph version isn't out on DVD, AFAIK. Wouldn't the Anaglyph still be worth anything to those without the rather expensive Sensio Systems? If so, can I still upload an anaglyph AVI, or would that violate site rules?

On a side note, Comin' At Ya is indeed available in Anaglyph 3D officially. So, it doesn't fit the qualification of "Unavailable on Official DVD in 3D." I've removed it from the list up top. You can get it right here:

http://www.amazon.com/Comin-At-Ya-Tony-Anthony/dp/6305564345/ref=sr_1_1?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1321937630&sr=1-1

While the article you linked to Moth3r mentions a release of Creature From the Black Lagoon in 3D, I can't find any information that they actually went through with a release... so I assume that makes it safe for preservation.

As it is, I'll upload Creature and Starchaser in Anaglyph 3D to anyone who wants them. I will post when they are ready, please don't PM me before that. In light of the genuine release, I'm not sure about uploading the anaglyph version of Jaws 3D.

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#552049
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Info: 3D Movies Unavailable on Official DVD in 3D... (Request List in 1st Post)
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Moth3r said:

I suppose the ideal preservation would be in a side-by-side format for playback on a 3D TV with Stereoscopic Player? I don't actually have a 3D TV and this sort of thing is a bit new to me.

That would be quite an ideal preservation. I wonder if conversion between the two formats of anaglyph and side by side is possible with some software. 

In any case, I have indeed found AVI anaglyph versions of Jaws 3D, Coming At Ya', Starchaser, and Creature From the Black Lagoon. They're all torrents, so they're currently coming along rather slowly. I'll re-up them quickly to MultiUpload (which should be easy as they are small uploads). I have already completed the download of Creature From the Black Lagoon.

Still, I'm disappointed I can't find a 3D version of Dial M For Murder :-(

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#551868
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Info: 3D Movies Unavailable on Official DVD in 3D... (Request List in 1st Post)
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SilverWook said:

Don't you mean "3D movies that are currently only available in 2D"?

SilverWook, that's exactly what I meant. I made that post late at night. I'll revise it right now. Thank you.

Interesting idea. But won't this require someone with a VHD player from Japan and the 3D titles to go with it?

http://home.q03.itscom.net/nsa/vhd.htm

Well, my logic was that some of them have already been transferred to DVD or to one's computer. I know that I've seen Creature in the Black Lagoon in 3D in a number of conventions on DVD. (BTW, I may have located a low quality AVI source for this online).

I'd like to see "Comin' at ya!" and "Starchaser the Legend of Orin" in 3D myself.

Added to the list.

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#551853
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Info: 3D Movies Unavailable on Official DVD in 3D... (Request List in 1st Post)
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Hello all,

I decided to make a thread dedicated to 3D movies that are currently only available in 2D or not available in any state at all. This thread is part preservation/part request thread. If there is an unavailable 3D movie, you can request it here, and hopefully someone will help out by uploading what you desire.

Many 3D movies were released on VHD officially in Japan, but got transferred to DVD unofficially by people at sometime or another. It would be quite nice if someone could share one of these transfers. A few were also released on VHS, such as Creature From the Black Lagoon.

In any case, feel free to request whatever 3D movie needs preservation and lacks an official DVD release. When you request something, I’ll add it to the “REQUEST LIST” below, so anyone interested in helping can just check the first post rather than reading the whole thread. I’ll add a “PRESERVED LIST” once the 3D preservations start coming along.
 

REQUEST LIST

  • Dial M For Murder
  • Jaws 3D
  • Creature From the Black Lagoon
  • Starchaser: The Legend of Orin
  • The Treasure of the Four Crowns
  • Metalstorm: The Destruction of Jared Syn

 

So, if you’re interested in requests, start making them. I’ll monitor this thread daily so the “REQUEST LIST” will be updated.

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#551716
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Info & Info Wanted: What are the BEST sources for EACH version of EACH movie ?
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pittrek said:

Star Wars Episode 1 : The Phantom Menace :

Version 1 : shown in some theatres, Darth Maul falls in 1 piece

Best source : ???

Sadly, this has yet to be found. I'd be interested if someone actually reconstructed this.

Version 2 : the "common" theatrical version, Darth Maul falls split in 2 halves

Best source : ??? (I know it was released on VHS, I have it, but it's 4:3)

In my opinion, this version is pretty well preserved. Adywan made a high quality reconstruction, and the best quality non-reconstruction (at least as far as video goes) is the TB Digital Broadcast. The LD has the best audio.

Star Wars Episode 2 : Attack of the Clones :

Version 1 : the original theatrical version

Best source : ??? (again, the official VHS is 4:3)

I believe the VHS was the DVD version... Correct me if I'm wrong. The best sources for this are theatrical camcorder bootlegs.

The IMAX cut however seems to be gone... except a few rumors of bootlegs I've heard about.

Star Wars (NO Episode IV) :

70mm 4.2 version : video identical to all versions, audio is a unique 4.2 remix

Best source : for audio - the hairyHen re-creation ?

Hairy Hen's recreation is probably the best available; however, he's making a more accurate version now.

35mm 2.0 version : video identical to all versions, audio is the common theatrical stereo mix

Best source : well - DJ V3 ???

Actually, DJ's Project Blu is much better, featuring a bunch of improvements in the scripts used to upconvert the GOUT. The audio is a lot better in this too.

If you don't mind a reconstruction, Harmy's edition is also one of the top sources.

35mm 1.0 version : featuring the wonderful mono mix

Best source : DJ V3 ???

Project Blu, see above.

A BIG QUESTION : In SOME early versions of the movie a different colour palette was used - e.g. the binary sunset scene was more orange/red (later versions had it blue/red), the R2 capture scene was bright etc. I always thought that these are the ORIGINAL colours - am I correct ?

I'm not sure about the binary sunset, but I believe the R2 scene was just brightened for early releases and the original colors are how it appears in the GOUT.

Star Wars Episode IV : A New Hope :

1981 version  : new title crawl, new starfield in the opening scene, new colours in the binary sunset and R2 capturing scenes (???)

Best source : ???

I'm not sure they re-color timed the 1981 version for those scenes. They definitely redid the crawl and star field though. Incidentally, my first post here was making the suggestion that the color inconsistency in the early releases was indeed because the 1981 version was re-timed. :-) The best source would probably be the JSC, if you added the original sound of course.

1985 version : Ben Burrt created a new sound mix, but was the video the same ?

Best source : ???

Minus the brightening used for home video, I believe the video was the same. New sound mix though. I'd think the best version for this is the JSC LD, as that seems to be the 1985 version. The SWE was a new transfer I believe... The Technidisc I think was basically the 1993 version except not desaturated or DVNR'ed.

1993 version : new sound mix again, desaturated video with DNVR

Best source : GOUT ?

I think the GOUT is the best source, though it has the original crawl.

1997 version - "Special Edition" : new scenes, new visual effects, new sound mix

Best source : ??? Again, I have a VHS but it's 4:3

The best source for this is the Reivax Digital Broadcast DVD, I think, as far as video goes. Audio goes to the LD.

2004 fucked up DVD version : the bad Star Wars parody with fucked up colours, fucked up sound, fucked up continuity ...

Best source : the official DVD, the HDTV broadcast

HDTV broadcast is definitely the best source as it's just the DVD master in HD.

Star Wars Episode 5 : The Empire Strikes Back :

70mm theatrical edition : unique 6 channel mix, unique ending shot ...

Best source : ???

Unfortunately, there is no source for this, AFAIK.

35mm theatrical edition : reshot ending, stereo sound mix

Best source: ???

The best source for this is most likely the JSC or SWE, except with original audio. The GOUT was pretty DVNR'ed, especially in ESB...

For theatrically accurate color timing, the theatrical bootleg is definitely the best or a 16mm transfer when it comes out.

1985 edition : was this even different from the theatrical 35mm edition ?

Best source : ???

Not sure if it was different... perhaps audio wise?

1993 edition : was this even different from the theatrical 35mm edition ?

Best source ???

This isn't really different except heavy DVNR. The best source would be Dark Jedi's Project Blu which is basically a nicely enhanced version of it.

1997 Special Edition : many visual and audio changes

Best source : ???

The best source is most definitely the TB Digital Broadcast DVD. The best audio is the LD.

Star Wars Episode VI : Return of the Jedi :

70mm theatrical edition : 6 channel mix, but video should be the same

Best source : DJ V3 ?

I believe this is the same, and DJ's Project Blu with Hairy Hen's 5.1 is probably the best approximation of this.

35mm theatrical edition : was the video different ? There was a stereo mix

Best source : DJ V3 ?

I don't believe the video was different. The best version is Dark Jedi's Project Blu Disc, and the best reconstruction is Harmy's. It is worth noting that the color timing of the JSC is very interesting for this one, much more saturated.

1985 version : was it ANY different ?

Best source : ???

I think that this wasn't different minus some EQ changes in the audio.

1993 version : was it ANY different ?

Best source : GOUT DVD ?

GOUT DVD is the best for official releases. Dark Jedi's Project Blu is the best since it is merely a bloody good upconvert.

1997 Special Edition : tons of changes

Best source : ???

Though some may argue the G'KAR, I do think that the TB DVD is the best source for video. The best audio is on the LD.

Anyway, that's just what I believe. Hope this helped. A "best source" thread is a good idea.

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#551712
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Info Wanted: Abel Gance's Napoleon 1935 Sound Re-Edit - anyone have it?; NOTE: AVI of Full 1983 Brownlow Restoration Available
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Hello guys, sorry for offering to upload, then leaving you like that. I'm having to use my computer often during weekdays so I don't have ample time to upload. I will find time though.

About the restoration being shown at the SF Silent Film Festival, I'd heard about that and was especially excited since I live in the Bay Area. Sadly, I already have prior obligations set for that time and can't make it. :-( I do hope for an official release. I doubt a leaked copy would surface... When they showed the original version of The Shining, for example, the original ending did not get leaked online AFAIK (correct me if I'm wrong on this).

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#551372
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Idea & Info: Star Wars Deleted Scenes - Reincorporated?
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pittrek said:

After I finish my Ewoks project I plan to do something similar, but I don't want to do whole "extended versions" of  movies, but only to collect ALL scenes from all releases and include a proper beginning and ending to each scene

Oh that sounds like a cool edit. It might not be better than the theatrical cuts; however, it sure would be an interesting watch. I look forward to it.

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#550245
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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Fantastic News, Harmy! I'm so glad you have the tools at your disposal that can really do your work full justice. I love You_Too's color corrections with their warm 70's-esque palette. 2.0 will be utterly fantastic and mind-blowing, especially having seen the plethora of new excellent "De-specialized" clips you've released recently. Two weeks also seems really quick. I'd wait months for this! :-)