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#1399882
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Removed lightspeed skipping sequence. It made no sense given how hyperspace has always been depicted, as quick travel, not teleportation.

The planets are very clearly that close to each other, so no it isn’t depicted as teleportation. The sequence is still unnecessary, though, as Poe’s recklessness can be inferred from the Falcon breaking through the ice.

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#1399054
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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GMatias said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

On a different note, while I never cared much for the Mary Sue accusations levied against Rey, there is actually one instance in TFA where I think it’s true, and that’s her breaking herself out of prison with a Jedi mind trick. Is there a way to make Han, Finn, and Chewy responsible for her escape? Maybe Phasma orders Rey be brought to her at gunpoint?

I always figured it was ok because (1) Ren had just told Snoke she, tho untrained, was powerful in the Force, and (2) he had JUST tried to do something like that to her.

In TLJ she described the Force specifically as a power Jedi had to control people, so maybe she already had heard enough rumors of the Jedi mind tricks by this point to realize if she had the Force, she could do that too.

  1. The mind trick is not the same as Kylo Ren’s Force probe, in terms of how to use it properly.

  2. Okay, but that doesn’t mean Rey should know how to use the mind trick.

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#1396190
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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Movies Remastered said:

She doesn’t really show that many abilities other than being a good pilot and helping fix things.

cough Rey is impressive with a blaster and lands three accurate hits against stormtroopers, minutes after a scene that implies she’s never even held one before… cough

(Now, you could argue she misses her very first shot, but that’s just it, immediately after that she lands three accurate hits, which is impressive for someone who’s implied to have never held a blaster before; I know you’ll also argue Kylo blocks her shots with his lightsaber during their initial encounter, but she’s still impressive in terms of aiming a blaster despite, again, the implication she’s never held one before)

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#1395553
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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NeverarGreat said:

For everyone arguing that Rey’s power in TFA wasn’t unusual…the creator of that movie made a sequel to it where he acknowledges that it is unusual and explains it by tying her by blood to the most powerful Force user in the galaxy. I don’t remember the name of that movie, it might come to me later.

Regardless, TFA is designed to raise questions about Rey’s parentage and her unusual affinity to the Force. Otherwise TLJ wouldn’t try to explain it by tying it to a Force equation involving Kylo and JJ wouldn’t have tried to make her the spawn of Space Satan.

This isn’t to forgive TFA’s choices - a movie should stand on its own merits. The real issue with Rey’s power in that film is that it requires extra context to appreciate, and not because it’s necessarily unusually strong based on the prior films, but because it feels unearned.

Take the scene of Luke levitating a saber in the Wampa cave. Someone watching this film after the first one could complain that this is a bogus and overpowered new ability, but the scene sells that this power is the only thing that will save Luke’s life and he struggles mightily to achieve it. The music and camerawork, the sense of peril, all were necessary to generate the need for this new power.

Rey in contrast is never in mortal peril in her moments of crisis. Rather, in each one she chooses to pit herself against a superior opponent and comes out on top, sometimes to her own astonishment. And this makes all the difference in terms of earning a power versus merely acquiring it.

Exactly. You shouldn’t have to go outside of a film and rely on a sequel, prequel or even ancillary material in order for it to make sense, each film has to stand on its own and be coherent on its own; you can argue the same for The Empire Strikes Back, except most of its set-ups, specifically Luke dealing with Darth Vader being his father, can be summed up as “What happens next?”, whereas plot holes and inconsistencies aren’t the same as “What happens next?” questions.

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#1395544
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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SparkySywer said:

There’s really not much suggesting either way whether or not Wookiee language is easy or hard to learn, so I’d personally take Rey picking it up as evidence that it’s easy. Not as evidence that it’s hard and that she’s OP.

I never said it wasn’t easy to learn; I said that it was implied to be rare, in that Chewbacca is the only Wookiee shown outside of his homeworld and most people do not even know what a Wookiee is, let alone its language.

Regarding the thing in the later part of your comment about faith, that doesn’t explain how Rey knows how to resist Kylo’s mind probe or how she knows how uses the mind trick. This is what people mean when they criticize Rey’s usage of the Force without any training.

Also, a single-handed sword-like lightsaber with a weightless blade that can kill you if you were to use it incorrectly is not the same as a heavy-weight double-handed metal staff.

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#1395457
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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JakeRyan17 said:

I guess we see her speak a couple other languages there with other people at or around the outpost.

We do see Rey communicate with Teedo; it’s clear Rey knows who he is, as in her first scene with BB-8 she tells it “That’s just Teedo.” But there is no indication he’s from a different planet, so we can conclude from what we know that he is from Jakku.

JakeRyan17 said:

Her having skills learned offscreen isn’t being a Mary Sue

I understand that, but if it contradicts her background presented to us as well as established in-universe facts, then it would make her a Mary Sue. For example, my character is a regular human baby who lives in Hell and speaks normal English, after being abandoned by his English-speaking parents moments after it was born; in Hell the only language everyone ever speaks is perfect and normal English. But somehow he understands the Navajo language, literally on the verge of “extinction”; this would make my character a Mary Sue/Gary Stu.

sade1212 said:

Shyriiwook must be a very straightforward language, since even 22-year old ex-scumrat and Imperial Academy expellee Han Solo seemed to be able to understand it.

If I recall correctly it’s established in Solo the Empire is enslaving Wookiees, so I don’t think it’d be hard to conclude Han learned what the language is specifically during his time at the Imperial Academy.

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#1395434
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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It isn’t like people from different planets visit it regularly; in fact, the only people we see visit that trading outpost regularly are scavengers who (we can conclude from the information presented; well, not quite, but there’s no indication they’re from different planets, so we can still conclude that…) live on Jakku and head there to sell scraps and get resources so they’d live.

And another thing, regarding how it reinforces the notion that Rey is a Mary Sue, in the previous six films the language is implied to be rare.

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#1395377
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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Movies Remastered said:

SparkySywer said:

I wonder what might be able to be done in an edit of TRoS that makes the trilogy more cohesive without sacrificing TLJ. Most edits of the ST try to reconcile TLJ to TRoS, but that’s kind of a shame. Like TLJ or not, it’s the one that actually has an artistic idea behind it. Especially compared to TRoS.

I’ve tried to make a cohesive trilogy but making Rey less of a Mary Sue in TFA, Both she and Finn get beaten badly by Kylo and their first face to face battle is in TROS. I’ve tried to link TLJ and TROS as much as possible but removing the “undone” moments in TROS and tried to add more seeds to TROS in TLJ.

I seem to be one of the only people that like the fact Luke became a hermit like Obi-wan. He’s a broken man after watching everything burn. It seems even more poignant with the end of The Mandalorian now.

Do you plan on removing Rey understanding what Chewie is saying in TFA and TLJ? That is commonly seen as another aspect of what is felt by many to be her Mary Sue status.

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#1391829
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The NumeralJoker/MechaSalesman 4K HDR Edits Megathread, Clips Previews, and Release Info
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SandMTV said:

Opening to ROTS the 4.5 cut DVD:

  1. FBI Warning
  2. 20th Century Fox Attention
  3. MPAA Rating
  4. 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment
    Main Menu Opening like ROTS 2005 dvd (But this time with Siege of Mandalore and 2003’s Battle of Coruscant)
  5. THX “Genesis”

DVD Menu Areas: Utapau, Coruscant, Mustafar, Mandalore

Main Menu’s Character reel footaage: Obi-Wan (Same like 2005 DVD Menu), Anakin (Brooding on Mustafar), Ahsoka (Witnessing the clones breaking through the doors at the end of Shattered), Padme (Same Like Obi-Wan), Yoda (Sensing the Jedi’s deaths), Mace Windu (Seeing Shaak Ti tied up), Rex (Seeing Ahsoka again), Bo-Katan (Looks at the gunship landing with Maul in it), Greivous (Same like Obi-Wan and Padme), Maul (does the join me thing), Palpatine (Same like Obi-Wan, Padme, and Greivous), Darth Vader (Watching Morai from above)

Set Up:

AUDIO: English 5.1 Dolby Digital Surround-EX, English Dolby Surround, Backstroke of the West, English Audio Description, French 5.1 Dolby Digital Surround-EX, Portuguese 5.1 Dolby Digital, Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital Surround-EX, Japanese 7.1 Dolby Digital Plus, Music Only, Dialogue Only, SFX Only

Subtitles: English for the Hearing Impaired, French, Japanese, Portuguese, Danish, Dutch, Finnish, Norwegian, Swedish, Spanish

Disc 1 Special Features: Filmmakers’ Commentary, Editor’s Commentary, Starwars.com

Disc 2 Special Features:

  1. Deleted Scenes (Greivous slaughters the Jedi/Escape from the General, Elevator Antics, Star Tours Coruscant, “Do not assume you have the advantage”, Escape through the hangar, Blinded by love, Cal’s Training 1, A plot to destroy the jedi?, Cal’s Training 2, Cal’s Training 3, Utapau Chase animatics, Order 66 animatic, Cere/Trilla Order 66 scene, Jaro senses Order 66, Anakin Kills Shaak Ti, Kashyyk Attack animatic, Cal escapes Order 66, Jedi Imposters at the Temple, Senate Duel Animatic, Mustafar Duel Animatic, Mustafar Duel/Lava River Animatics, Yoda communes with Qui-Gon)
  2. Featurettes: It’s All for Real: The Stunts of Episode III, The Chosen One, Within a Minute: The Making of Episode III, The Journey, ILM Episode III Siggraph Reel, Star Warriors, Star Wars Tech, Inside the Mandalore Duel: Ahsoka Vs. Maul.
  3. Webisodes of Episode III (All webisodes from the ROTS 2005 DVD)
  4. The collection (Wardrobes, Props, and Maquettes) of Episode III
  5. Interviews (Coruscant Overview, Samuel L. Jackson Interview, Utapau Overview, Mustafar Overview, Natalie Portman Interview, Kashyyyk and Order 66 Overview)
  6. TCW Downloaded: Siege of Mandalore
  7. Easter Egg: Hip-Hop Yoda in 4K!
  8. Trailers (Nostalgia Teaser, Epic Trailer, PixMagic Trailer “Breathing”, “A Hero Falls” Music Video, “A Galaxy at War” AMV)
  9. TV Spots (Jedi Action (Kids), Jedi Unite, Showdown, To Protect You, Seduction, End of the war, Celebration, Brothers, Epic Tragedy, Teaser Cutdown, Trailer Cutdown, Dark Side Unleashed, Tragedy, Sith Happens, Jedi Action, Review, DVD commercials, Revenge of the Sith Merchandise commercials, ROTS Video Game commercials, Pepsi Ad, Blu-Ray Trailer)
  10. Video Games and still galleries (Lego Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga trailer, EA’s Star Wars Battlefront II Trailer, Exclusive Production Photos, One-Sheet Posters, Outdoor Print Campaign, Starwars.com)

I’m not sure if Lucasfilms do deleted scenes of Siege of Mandalore because I seen the BTS footage of Ashley Eckstien recording the line that wasn’t in the Siege of Mandalore which is “Who finishes their mission first”. I will be pleased of they make S7 to the Blu-Ray Disc with tons of Bonus Features.

How do you create a DVD opening for a DVD anyway?