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#1441275
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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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you’re welcome to add your two cents where it’s more relevant, instead of imposing your opinion onto the rest of the board

I mean, other people aside from myself would start the discussion in the first place, even if I didn’t exist.

You are approaching the internet like a giant hivemind with no regard for how members here actually feel

It’s called a “general consensus”.

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#1441257
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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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SparkySywer said:

TestingOutTheTest said:

Has anyone else made that argument on the board except you?

I kinda changed my mind on that?

You’re missing his point, nobody else really seems to be making this point, or at least it’s a very rare take. You’re arguing against a fictional position. I’m not sure anyone else has made that argument except you, although I’m not gonna say you’re the only one because that’s a quick and easy way to get owned.

I’ve seen that be used a couple of times on Reddit.

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#1441220
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The Last Jedi Expanded Edition by Jason Fry: The &quot;Tragedy of Vader&quot; Edit (WIP)
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In the film, Ben attacks Luke because he knew Luke was gonna stop him from doing all sorts of bad things as Kylo Ren, having already turned to the dark side. Luke even saw that Snoke already corrupted him and believed he was irredeemable like Palpatine (at least until Rey debunks that).

The tragedy can be that Luke failed to cleanse the darkness from Ben.

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#1441217
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The Last Jedi Expanded Edition by Jason Fry: The &quot;Tragedy of Vader&quot; Edit (WIP)
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How about… Ben made/modified the saber behind Luke’s back and Luke didn’t notice in the final days of which Ben made/modified it and wouldn’t have trained with it? Or Snoke gave him the crossguard one in secret and he uses his regular saber to try and hide his alliance with Snoke during the training?

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#1441160
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The Last Jedi Expanded Edition by Jason Fry: The &quot;Tragedy of Vader&quot; Edit (WIP)
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Ben’s saber should ALREADY be red the moment he catches Luke (but only in the flashback of what really happened). It makes it less of, “He’s gonna kill me even though I did nothing wrong!”, and more of, “He was gonna stop being from being evil or whatever!” (I feel like that was obvious from the actual film, but… yeah).

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#1441001
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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sade1212 said:

I think Rey can still want revenge against Palpatine without her parents needing to be noble. Firstly, they were still her parents, and despite the level of abuse/neglect implied by literally selling her into slavery, she’d still probably be opposed to them being murdered, especially since she doesn’t remember them well enough to harbour any personal grudge. Secondly, he’s Palpatine: he’s responsible for a huge amount of death, for turning Ben and starting the First Order (and thus getting Han, Luke and Leia killed), and is actively trying to kill the rest of her friends. Difficult guy to not want some kind of revenge on.

Why? The point of TLJ is that she doesn’t care about her parents anymore and now has to stick with the Resistance for validation, because she wasted all those years for nothing caring about awful, drunken parents who neglected her. She’d want them to suffer for neglecting her and believing she was nothing.

Having her go back to caring about them regresses that.

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#1441000
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I abhor the &quot;X undoes Y's accomplishments&quot; criticism so much.
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Here we go again…

Also

There is nothing in the OT that gives any goal behind the end of the Empire. That is the end game of the OT - the destruction of the Empire.

The reason behind overthrowing the Empire is because they’re corrupt and tyrannical. Of course they’d want a ruling faction that isn’t corrupt or tyrannical.

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#1440952
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Jar Jar Bricks said:

DZ-330 said:

Jar Jar Bricks said:

I remember having this same conversation a while back. The problem with making her parents bad people is that the Palpy/Rey scene at the end relies on the whole “she will take her revenge!” spiel. He’s trying to get her to hate him. But if Palpatine is responsible for the killing of her parents, and they were bad people, then really Rey should be thanking Palps for neutralizing those scum bags. Not exactly the greatest strategy. And don’t even get me started on the fact that it makes no sense that they wouldn’t reveal her location to Ochi if they were bad.

Don’t get me wrong, it would have been better for them to be bad, but unfortunately the movie we have been given relies on them being good. Doing the opposite would involve removing way too much content and make the Rey/Palpatine scene kinda confusing.

But I do think the revenge she could be taking would be because she was alone for all those years because of Palpatine.

Well then somebody could easily make the argument that she probably had a better quality of life being alone than being with drunken parents who don’t give two shits about her (abuse).

I ran into this issue when writing my novelization and ultimately decided I had to go with good parents (but improved) because otherwise you’d have to change a lot. For example, Ochi would have to never encounter her parents and die while on the hunt for them. This then makes Rey unfamiliar with the dagger and his ship. Then that leaves the dyad fight in Kylo’s quarters devoid of content since there are no visions and not a whole lot to say except that she’s a Palpatine, which is supposed to happen in the hangar scene. Plus there would need to be a good enough reason for Rey to want to kill Palps with the dark side so the essence transfer works.

Ah, what a mess.

Palpatine would be the reason Rey believes she’s worthless. Even after realizing that her actual heritage doesn’t define her value, if it weren’t for Palpatine then Rey wouldn’t believe she’s nothing.

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#1440853
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The Sequel Trilogy: Trilogized (a Work In Progress)
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CaptainFaraday said:

“Do you not understand that everything is temporary? You really think it only matters if it lasts forever?”

Moderators, Testing is being outwardly and deliberately insulting and belittling here for absolutely no reason, and I don’t think his comments are acceptable.

How was that unacceptable? And if it were an insult, it would’ve been any kind of profanity.

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#1440813
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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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There never should’ve been a continuation of TLJ. Ever. The canon timeline, not just the main saga, should’ve just ended at the boy looking at the stars with hope. Period. End of story. Zilch.

Continuing the story and creating any new threats AFTER TLJ strips away any emotional impact from Luke’s sacrifice and inspiring the galaxy with hope, even if TFA and TLJ, themselves, remain untouched. Because what was the point of Luke’s sacrifice if TROS or DOTF or whatever continuation even exists? It was all for nothing since Palpatine came back anyways in TROS, or Kylo was gonna search for some planet-destroying Force ability in DOTF or the Resistance struggled against the FO in both Episode IX’s.

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#1440812
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The Sequel Trilogy: Trilogized (a Work In Progress)
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Dr. Krogshöj said:

I feel that seeing the Sith fleet rise right after Luke restores the spark of hope in the galaxy would negate his heroics to soon after his sacrifice.

There never should’ve been a continuation of TLJ. Ever. The canon timeline, not just the main saga, should’ve just ended at the boy looking at the stars with hope. Period. End of story. Zilch.

Continuing the story and creating any new threats AFTER TLJ strips away any emotional impact from Luke’s sacrifice and inspiring the galaxy with hope, even if TFA and TLJ, themselves, remain untouched. Because what was the point of Luke’s sacrifice if TROS or DOTF or whatever continuation even exists? It was all for nothing since Palpatine came back anyways in TROS, or Kylo was gonna search for some planet-destroying Force ability in DOTF or the Resistance struggled against the FO in both Episode IX’s.

Nah, I’m just kidding. Do you not understand that everything is temporary? You really think it only matters if it lasts forever? By your logic, TFA destroys ROTJ’s ending by destroying the Republic and Jedi and resurrecting the Empire. Logan destroys the previous movie’s ending by turning the world into an apocalypse and killing off all the mutants. Civil War destroys The Avengers from 2012 by having them break up. Nothing ever lasts forever. Everything is always temporary.

Besides, TLJ was always gonna have a sequel.

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#1440517
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I abhor the &quot;X undoes Y's accomplishments&quot; criticism so much.
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There were no goals to rebuild the Republic, to rebuild the Jedi order.

I really disagree here. The Rebels definitely wanted the Empire to be gone because they were tyrants. Of course they’d want something better in charge. Not that they wanted to rebuild the actual Republic.

Also, Yoda tells Luke to restore the Jedi.

And I’m speaking as the OP of the post who keeps saying that nothing lasts forever.