That shot looks great.
I never would’ve thought it could be done that way.
It only is darker because its NTSC-J.
Doesn’t NTSC-J only apply to television broadcasts? I thought home video was just NTSC.
Sea of Love (1995) - DVD/Blu-ray here
and here are three deleted scenes totaling 6 minutes. The three additional scenes add up to only 8 minutes, so I’m wondering if it’s only two.If anyone has any of these DVD/Blu-ray’s and can verify these releases, please feel free to share them here.
One particular VHS for Sea of Love (that I posted to myspleen) has an extended version that’s never been released.
The TV version included two of the three additional scenes from the VHS. One is of Frank Miller falsely arresting a bodyguard and the other is when his ex-girlfriend comes to see him at the station; so I’m wondering if those are the scenes included on the DVD/Blu-ray as Deleted Scenes.
Voyage of the Damned (a true story about Jews trying to escape the holocaust on a trans-Atlantic boat ride, and not having much luck sadly) apparently has a single release from 1980 with a version almost half an hour longer.
Adding this one. I think the same version is also on Laserdisc
https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/24729/SF108-1549/Voyage-of-the-Damned
Last question, does the 2020 UHD Blu-ray Box Set include these extras?
TFA
The Scavenger & the Stormtrooper: A Conversation with Daisy Ridley and John Boyega
TLJ
Meet the Porgs
TROS
A Final Alliance
DrDre said:
Secondly, you need to add HDR meta data to your source.What’s the best way to do that?
I think a tool like Mkvtoolnix can do it, but I’m not sure, since I have not actually done it myself.
Last question, when you say to add HDR metadata to the source, are you talking about the test image that’s already in HDR or the reference image?
I’m a bit confused. You want to match an HDR source to an SDR reference?
The test image is a 4K HDR source and the reference image is taken from an SD Laserdisc.
Ah oke, and when does it look pale? After rendering with a LUT?
After I apply “Build color matching model”.
I’m a little confused, because for the example you posted, the regrade does not look pale.
For this shot, the colors came out that way (notice around the lamp by the door)
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/27055
For the example I posted, even if the regrade doesn’t look pale, the colors aren’t accurate. Notice around the woman’s face.
DrDre said:
Secondly, you need to add HDR meta data to your source.What’s the best way to do that?
I think a tool like Mkvtoolnix can do it, but I’m not sure, since I have not actually done it myself.
Last question, when you say to add HDR metadata to the source, are you talking about the test image that’s already in HDR or the reference image?
I’m a bit confused. You want to match an HDR source to an SDR reference?
The test image is a 4K HDR source and the reference image is taken from an SD Laserdisc.
Ah oke, and when does it look pale? After rendering with a LUT?
After I apply “Build color matching model”.
DrDre said:
Secondly, you need to add HDR meta data to your source.What’s the best way to do that?
I think a tool like Mkvtoolnix can do it, but I’m not sure, since I have not actually done it myself.
Last question, when you say to add HDR metadata to the source, are you talking about the test image that’s already in HDR or the reference image?
I’m a bit confused. You want to match an HDR source to an SDR reference?
The test image is a 4K HDR source and the reference image is taken from an SD Laserdisc.
DrDre said:
Secondly, you need to add HDR meta data to your source.What’s the best way to do that?
I think a tool like Mkvtoolnix can do it, but I’m not sure, since I have not actually done it myself.
Last question, when you say to add HDR metadata to the source, are you talking about the test image that’s already in HDR or the reference image?
DrDre said:
Secondly, you need to add HDR meta data to your source.
What’s the best way to do that?
I’m not sure if something like this has already been mentioned, but I’ve been having issues color matching images to 4K HDR sources. The colors are not an exact match and end up looking pale. I had the color spaces set to 250, smoothing parameter to 0.01, and the fast processing mode turned off
Test Image
Reference Image
These films have had some of the deleted scenes released on DVD/Blu-ray, but I’m not sure to what extent
Attack of the Killer Tomatoes (1978) - DVD/Blu-ray here and here listed as having deleted scenes, but I’m not sure if these are the same ones from the Australian release.
Barbarian Queen (1980) - Shout! Factory released the unrated material on the Double Feature DVD/Blu-ray and an Integral version released on German DVD/Blu-ray, but I"m not sure to what extent these scenes were released
https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=1870781
Sea of Love (1995) - DVD/Blu-ray here
and here are three deleted scenes totaling 6 minutes. The three additional scenes add up to only 8 minutes, so I’m wondering if it’s only two.
If anyone has any of these DVD/Blu-ray’s and can verify these releases, please feel free to share them here.
The following VHS releases have had these scenes released on DVD/Blu-ray
Alligator (1980) - TV version released on US Shout! Factory Collector’s Edition Blu-ray.
Hollywood Monster (Ghost Chase) (1987) - uncut extended version released on German DVD.
Rawhead Rex (1987) - unrated version released on DVD/Blu-ray.
Shocking Dark (Alienator) (1989) - Japanese version released on US Severin Films Blu-ray.
Slaughterhouse Rock (1987) - unrated version released on US Vinegar Syndrome Blu-ray.
Tenebre (1982) - alternate version with English text released on US Synapse and UK Arrow Video Blu-ray.
Servii said:
The GOUTs were only released individually at first and didn’t get a box set until the 2008 sets.
Since you put it that way, I noticed one set of covers for the GOUT has a banner that says: Exclusive Bonus Material! Includes 1977/1980/1983 Theatrical Version Available For Limited Time Only!
And another set with a banner that says: Limited Time Only Includes The Digitally Remastered Movie Plus The Original Theatrical Version
Is the former the initial release and the other a re-release that came out before the 2008 set?
- For the 2004 DVD Set, the fullscreen editions were released in a gold color, and the widescreen editions were released in a silver color. For the 2006 Limited Edition Set, what was the official box art for it? I ask because I see different box art and DVD covers for this one.
The original release of the GOUT had gold colored headers, with the box art being photoshopped recreations of theatrical posters.
Is this it?
There was a second release in 2008 that was a whole trilogy box set, with Luke and Vader fighting over a blue background on the cover, so that might explain the confusion.
- Were the official PT DVDs released as a box set?
Yes, to accompany the GOUT box set released in 2008. The cover had a matching design to the OT cover, with Anakin and Obi-Wan fighting over a red background. There were no changes from the individual releases though.
Is this it?
I’m looking into expanding my home video collection of SW by including the DVD/Blu-rays, but first, I have a few questions about them, so there’s no confusion when purchasing them.
For the 2004 DVD Set, the fullscreen editions were released in a gold color, and the widescreen editions were released in a silver color. For the 2006 Limited Edition Set, what was the official box art for it? I ask because I see different box art and DVD covers for this one.
Were the official PT DVDs released as a box set?
For the 2011 “The Complete Saga” Blu-ray Set, there’s one set that looks like this,
And another that looks like this
What’s the difference between the two release-wise?
This edit was really good. This is only a suggestion but instead of putting the deleted scene of Luke building his lightsaber to after he leaves Dagobah, place it at the beginning as originally intended but have the cave be on Dagobah, then have the next scene be of Yoda’s hut. I understand this would involve changing the background in the cave.
The color timing for ANH:SE 1997 is sourced from a Technicolor print, so, unlike the DVD/Blu-ray’s, the colors you see for the Theatrical footage are basically how they’re supposed to look. Between the US and Japan Laserdisc releases, the transfer for the Japan Laserdisc looks more similar to the Technicolor print.
Looking at these releases here, it’s most likely that the transfer for the LDs released in 1997 are both identical, but for the 2000 re-release here, is the transfer also identical or somewhat different?
delete post
Adywan, are you still going to include the cameo of yourself during the ending ceremony scene?
For TFA, I might keep the clone army line but Lor San Tekka’s line in that one scene is going to be changed to something that doesn’t reference the Jedi and the Force but still fits in with the scene.
I probably wouldn’t have Beru being Anakin’s sister. I’d have Anakin, Beru, and Owen all being close friends that grew up together on Tatooine (without parents?). Beru has unrequited feelings for Anakin so she sees him as more than a friend. But because Anakin left Tatooine to become a Jedi, she ends up marrying Owen.
Isnt he already doing that though?
Remove droid torture in Jabba’s Palace
Remove “Jedi Rocks” and the additions of the Special Edition in that scene
Remove the slapstick Ewok moments during the battle
Add more rebel troop action to Endor ground battle
Larger ground and space battle
Remove Chewie’s Tarzan yell
New Boba Fett death
Remove many of C-3P0’s “Ric Olie/ captain obvious” lines
etc etcThis is true but I beleive this is becuase, unlike the first two which had simple plots and themes that kids could follow, ROTJ had more “kid moments”. Which could be fine however, there is A LOT of them. So many they tend to happen before and after major emotional/plot heavy moments. This juxtapose tends to pull everyone out of the story including kids (which I can atest to, having been one not to long ago, I grew up with the prequals).
They seemed intent that kids would find the plot boring or that perants/censors would not like their kids seeing “dark” moments, so put a something jokie in there to soften the blow. But ROTJ was the movie remembered least of growing up (except perhaps AotC) with RotS and ANH coming in first. RotJ just never stuck and I tended to zone out.
To be clear I’m not arguing the movie should be “dark” or more serious but just that I think Adywan is seeking to remove most out of place humorous moments that don’t fit the tone of the scene they are in/before/after.
TLDR: Even though SW movies was designed so that kid could watch them (“for kids”) RotJ might have gone to far by following the trend of ‘Kids are too stupid to follow plot so, “fun moments” are needed everywhere!’
Also George Famously discovered the delights of toy sales…
What really happened was after Raiders of the Lost Ark, Lucas got disillusioned with the film industry believing that audiences only cared about thrills and entertainment and not about the story.
This is just one of the many things that led ROTJ to become what it is now.
Is there a plan to replace the badly remixed sounds like the stormtroopers walking and some of the laser blaster fires?
For some of these questions, it’d be best to wait and find out when it’s completed.
Besides Yub Nub, I believe most of the kid-friendly material should be removed or altered in some way.
While ESB:R and ANH:R SD & HD are mostly effects changes, this one should also be more of a fan edit.
Superweapon VII said:
I’m sure others with a better understanding of political machinations than me can pick this logic apart. Regardless, this is space fantasy; its politics don’t have to align with the real world.
Seems like it’s always being described as a space fantasy. It’s meant to be a space opera.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_opera
