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#1225928
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Analog Releases of Films That Contain Deleted, Extended, & Alternate Footage That've Never Been Released on DVD/BluRay
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JayArgonaut said:

Tantive3+1 said:

Is the 1992 UK VHS of The Charge of the Light Brigade the longest version available?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062790/alternateversions?ref_=tt_ql_trv_5

Yes, it would appear so. The 1997 MGM W/S LD, the DVDs and the UK TV broadcasts aired on different channels have been sourced from the shorter U.S. cut.

Added.

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#1225767
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Analog Releases of Films That Contain Deleted, Extended, & Alternate Footage That've Never Been Released on DVD/BluRay
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JayArgonaut said:

Tantive3+1 said:

JayArgonaut said:

Tantive3+1 said:

Blue Thunder (1983) - these releases contain one additional scene not included on the DVD/Blu-ray versions.

More than one scene: 😃

https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=4680869

https://www.lddb.com/search.php?search=blue+thunder&format=ld&sort=date,asc

If you mean that one shot that’s shown earlier then your right.

JayArgonaut said:

Do all the LDs contain the extended version? I thought it was just the pan and scan releases?

Where did you hear that it was only the Pan & Scan releases?

JayArgonaut said:

Another entry for your list is Explorers. The 80s home video releases were re-edited by Dante apparently and they include scenes that are not present in the DVD-Blu-ray theatrical version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAmROBeqnI0

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/Explorers

Thanks, did all the VHS releases from the 80’s and 90’0s contain this scene?

To clarify, that scene is from the theatrical cut, which has only ever been released on VHS (CIC) in PAL European countries and that was during the 80s/90s. The theatrical cut airs on UK TV fairly regularly.

Explorers UK VHS

Explorers UK VHS II

The current worldwide DVD release by Paramount uses the Dante re-edited “Special Home Version” that was released in the US on LD, VHS and Beta during the 80s.

See below for a thorough discussion of the differences. 😃

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Has-anyone-ever-done-a-theatrical-cut-of-The-Explorers-River-Phoenix-Ethan-Hawke/id/48867

http://www.haku.co.uk/dvd/Explorers.html

Regarding Blue Thunder, I looked into purchasing the US NTSC W/S LD a while back but the one I saw for sale on eBay appeared to have the theatrical running time. This is why I suspected that only the early pan and scan versions contain the additional scenes.

Another entry for your list is, The Charge of the Light Brigade (1968).

All current DVDs use the U.S. cut, which is shorter by 7 minutes. There was a 1992 UK VHS release that featured the original full length version. Whenever it airs on TV, I’ve recorded it, in the hope that the full length version might turn up but nothing so far.

http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=12867#overall

OK, added.

Is the 1992 UK VHS of The Charge of the Light Brigade the longest version available?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062790/alternateversions?ref_=tt_ql_trv_5

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#1225643
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Analog Releases of Films That Contain Deleted, Extended, & Alternate Footage That've Never Been Released on DVD/BluRay
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Slavicuss said:

The 1999 ANCHOR BAY extended widescreen HALLOWEEN (1978) is not the same as the 1981 television edit.

The alternate scene of Laurie discovering the bodies of her two friends, in the wardrobe, is an alternate take that is not available on DVD/Blu-ray. There is also another alternate take used in the 1981 television edit - Laurie telling the two children to go next door and call the police. This alternate take is used at the beginning of HALLOWEEN II (1981). But here, it is seen in its complete form.

The 1981 television edit also included two title cards - just after little Michael has killed his sister - which are not included in the extended widescreen 1999 release of HALLOWEEN (1978).

If the two alternate scenes are not on the extended tv version on the Anchor Bay DVD I’ll need to verify it first.

JayArgonaut said:

Tantive3+1 said:

Blue Thunder (1983) - these releases contain one additional scene not included on the DVD/Blu-ray versions.

More than one scene: 😃

https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=4680869

https://www.lddb.com/search.php?search=blue+thunder&format=ld&sort=date,asc

If you mean that one shot that’s shown earlier then your right.

JayArgonaut said:

Do all the LDs contain the extended version? I thought it was just the pan and scan releases?

Where did you hear that it was only the Pan & Scan releases?

JayArgonaut said:

Another entry for your list is Explorers. The 80s home video releases were re-edited by Dante apparently and they include scenes that are not present in the DVD-Blu-ray theatrical version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAmROBeqnI0

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/Explorers

Thanks, did all the VHS releases from the 80’s and 90’0s contain this scene?

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#1225409
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Analog Releases of Films That Contain Deleted, Extended, & Alternate Footage That've Never Been Released on DVD/BluRay
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digitalfreaknyc said:

Sea of Love (Thrillers Edition) - VHS. Extended version of the film. Nothing noted on the box. Contains deleted scenes from tv version but uncensored.

I can’t find anything on a Thrillers Edition, Could it be the Collectors Edition?

Slavicuss said:

An extended version of JAWS 2 was released on VHS in Brazil. Includes footage not released on DVD/Blu-ray.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcThHFiR3s8&t=17s
Interesting, I didn’t know the Brazilian TV version had a VHS release. Added.

Slavicuss said:

The television edit of HALLOWEEN (1978/81) was released on VHS by MEDIA HOME ENTERTAINMENT.

The HALLOWEEN television edit includes an alternate shot of Laurie discovering the dead bodies of Lynda and her boyfriend.

The television edit was also released on the Anchor Bay DVD
http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=937

Slavicuss said:

The Australian home video Betamax/VHS release of MAD MAX 2 has an extended dialogue scene for Pappagallo.

Added. That extended scene was also in the UK VHS release.

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#1224341
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Analog Releases of Films That Contain Deleted, Extended, & Alternate Footage That've Never Been Released on DVD/BluRay
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This is a list of analog releases of films that contain deleted, extended, and alternate footage that have never been released on DVD and Blu-ray etc. Hopefully this list can be used as a guide for future fan edits and preservation’s. Feel free to add or contribute any information.

VHS
Alligator (1980) - the 1983 US Catalina Home Video release contains the TV version. While edited for content it features 7 minutes of deleted scenes.
Arcade (1993) - the 1993 Argentinian Teleargentina release contains the original CGI effects.
Attack of the Killer Tomatoes (1978) - the 1987 Australian Cel Home Video features 4 minutes of deleted scenes.
Barbarian Queen (1985) - the unrated 1986 US Vestron Video contains over 3 minutes of additional shots.
Barracuda (1978) - the 1986 US VidAmerica,Inc. features an ending title card text at the end.
Blood Beach (1981) - the 1981 German UFA Video contains several deleted unrated shots and the 1981 US Media Home Entertainment features one scene not included on the DVD releases.
Bram Stokers Dracula (1992) - the 1993 UK Colombia/Sony Limited Box Set release is 18 seconds longer in 6 scenes.
Catchfire (1990) - the 1995 US Avid Home Entertainment release is the Director’s Cut with 18 minutes of extended and alternate scenes.
Charge of the Light Brigade, The (1968) - the 1992 UK release is the longest version of the film at 136 minutes.
Cold Blood (aka:Das Amulett des Todes) (1975) - the German UFA Video is the extended version with 6 minutes of additional scenes.
Crawlers, The (1991) - the 1991 Japanese RCA/Columbia Pictures Video release runs 3 minutes longer than the US version.
Daughter of Darkness (1993) - the 1994 Hong Kong Ocean Shores is the only release to contain the full uncut version of the film.
Death Wish II (1982) - the 1984 Greek MTC Video features the unrated version with a few scenes from the TV version.
Devil’s Wedding Night, The (1973) - the Japanese Sony release contains 1 minute of uncut gore scenes.
Evil Dead, The (1981) - the 1982 Greek Diamond, 1985 Greek Video Standard, 1992 Mexican Videomax, and the 1995 Mexican Video Standard releases contain shots from the original 1981 premiere titled “Book of the Dead”.
Explorers (1985) - the European PAL home video releases contain two additional scenes from the Theatrical cut that were not included on the DVD version.
Jade (1995) - the unrated 1996 US Paramount Home Video release is the directors cut with 12 minutes of deleted and extended scenes.
Jaws 2 (1978) - the 1979 Brazilian CIC Video release contains 9 minutes of deleted and extended scenes.
Mad Max 2 (1981) - the 1982 UK & 1983 Australian Warner Home Video releases contain one extended scene.
Nightmare on Elm Street 5, A: The Dream Child (1989) - the unrated 1990 US & Canadian Media Home Entertainment releases contain deleted shots from two scenes that were cut by the MPAA.
Playroom (aka:Schizo) (1989) - the 1990 Dutch Excalibur release features an alternate ending.
Prey (1984) - the Japanese Cinema-Ya release, while missing a few shots and scenes, contains 16 minutes of additional footage.
Rawhead Rex (1987) - the 1988 Dutch Vestron Video International contains three uncut extended scenes.
Savage Weekend (1979) - the 1982 Dutch Vid Films is the uncut version containg one additional scene.
Shocking Dark (aka:Alienators) (1989) - the 1991 Japanese Caution Video contains 5 minutes of extended scenes plus two alternate shots
Slaughterhouse Rock (1987) - the 1988 Dutch New York Video features the unrated version with 4 extended scenes.
Snowbeast (1977) - the 1977 US World Vision Entertainment contains 4 minutes of deleted and extended shots and scenes.
Sonny Boy (1989) - the 1989 UK Entertainment In Video contains 6 minutes of additional scenes.
Sorority House Massacre (1986) - the 1988 UK Medusa Home Video features 11 minutes of deleted shots and scenes.
Stage Fright (1950) - the 2000 French Warner Home Video features two extended scenes.
Tenebre (1982) - the Israeli Malibu Video release contains 9 alternate scenes.
Thunder (1983) - the 1985 Japanese Eion release features 7 minutes of deleted and extended scenes.
Transgression (1994) - the 1994 UK Screen Edge release has scenes that are shorter, extended, and in a different order with alternate footage.
Twin Town (1997) - the 1997 US Polygram Video contains one extra scene not included on the DVD.
Wyatt Earp (1994) - the special expanded edition from the 1995 US Warner Home Video release contains 20 minutes of additional scenes plus one scene not included on the laserdisc version.
Zenabel (1969) - the Greek Video Films release, while missing a few scenes, contains two extended scenes.

BETAMAX
Kung Fu Zombie (1981) - the 1986 Japanese Daiei Video is the original uncut version of the film.

LASERDISC
Alamo, The (1960) ML102581, ML-12 & ML1063548 - these are the Directors Cut versions with 35 minutes of deleted and extended scenes plus two alternate shots.
Blue Thunder (1983) - these releases contain one additional scene not included on the DVD/Blu-ray versions.
Candyman (1992) LD 14073 - this is the unrated version with one uncut scene.
Cartel (1990) ID7946SG - contains 6 minutes of additional extended scenes
City Hunter (1993) PCLP-00477 - contains an extended opening with more shots from the manga and a few clips from the film plus an alternate scene.
Dead Poets Society (1989) 7821 AS - contains 14 minutes of deleted scenes.
Dream Lover (1993) 800633113-1 - contains over 2 minutes of deleted material.
Grizzly (1976) SF078-5011 - this version contains a scrolling monologue in the beginning of the film that was never shown on the DVD versions.
It (1990) 12198 - this contains the full 192 minute TV miniseries uncut with 6 scenes and 4 extended shots from the ending of Part 1 and the beginning of Part 2 that’re missing from other release’s.
It’s A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World (1963) ML102194 - the Criterion Blu-ray misses three scenes that’re only found on this version plus two alternate shots.
Lion King, The (1994) - after the 1995 Walt Disney Home Video releases of the theatrical version a majority of the animated footage and title cards were remastered for every re-released format.
Love on Delivery (1994) ML 456 ML 457 - the Blu-ray release has several frame cuts removing certain parts of dialogue and shots plus censored subtitles made on the HK DVD making the laserdisc the uncut version.
Nemesis (1992) PILF-1588 - this is the Directors Cut version with 4 minutes of extended and alternate scenes plus an alternate ending.
Nightmare on Elm Street 5, A: The Dream Child (1989) ID7189ME & TKLR-50013 - both releases contain deleted shots from two scenes that were cut by the MPAA.
Protector, The (1985) G88F0051 - contains 3 minutes of additional scenes to the Hong Kong version of the film.
Ransom (1995) 8295 AS, PILF-2392 & PILF-2680 - these are the Director’s Cut versions containing 18 minutes of deleted footage that were never released on a digital format.
Rock n’ Roll Cop (1994) OL-395 - contains the fully uncut version while the DVD releases are censored.
Solar Crisis (1990) PCLP-00128 - this is the uncut Director’s Cut version with 7 minutes of additional footage.
Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace (1999) PILF-2830 - the 2000 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment Home Video releases are the only analog formats from the Prequel Trilogy to feature the theatrical version.
Starflight One (1983) LVRK 0175 - this release contains 7 minutes of additional scenes.
Superman IV: The Quest for Peace (1987) K88L-5090 - contains two deleted scenes that were briefly shown on television broadcasts of the TV version.
Texasville (1990) PSE93-34 - this is the the only release to contain 24 minutes of additional scenes.
THX 1138 (1971) - the original cut of the film has never been released on a digital format.
Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988) 940 CS - contains three uncensored shots that were altered for later LD releases and the DVD/Blu-ray versions.
Wyatt Earp (1994) 13921 & NJWL-13921 - these are the special expanded editions with 19 minutes of addtional scenes.

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#1213787
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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trimboNZ said:

Update via Facebook a couple of days ago:

"
Sorry for the lack of any updates. April/ May is always a busy time for me. Start of some good weather and loads of work to do outside and on the house. Family birthdays and everything that goes with that. So i never usually can manage to do much work on projects.

Saying that, i haven’t fully pushed Revisited to one side. I’ve still been working on ANH grading. That is now about 95% complete. Lots of planning for the pilot shoot also. Work has commenced on the sculpting for the pilots helmets and the chest piece. The red overalls are all completed, so the costumes are coming along nicely. Then it’s onto building the cockpit, which will be happening next month.

And i see Facebook have changed their settings for groups yet again. Seems now that many will only see highlights of any updates here in their newsfeeds and not every post. So, if you want to keep up with everything thats about to be happening, then make sure you have your settings set up to see all posts, not highlights , for this page.

So June is when everything will be getting back to normal…

Watch this space…
"

You should finish with what you want to do for ANH:RHD before you move on to ROTJ:R.

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#1211362
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>720p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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sansuni said:

INVAR said:

ChainsawAsh said:

I still think it’d be nice to add a bit of the Imperial March to the scene when Vader arrives on the Tantive, though that would mean replacing a small bit of original music.

I already created a brief edit to show what that might look and sound like. It’s minimalist, but it works.

https://player.vimeo.com/video/225892219

That’s simply perfect. It nicely fixes up something that always felt missing without disrupting the integrity of the scene. Also, it fits in quite nicely, well done.

I prefer the original audio.

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#1172131
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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exitzero said:

I’ve been on the hunt hoping to find a shot of James Earl Jones saying the words “Your Mother”. So far no luck, but he does say “Mother of God” clearly in The Hunt for Red October. I don’t know crap about audio editing, but Vader says “You’re feelings have now betrayed her too”. Wonder if those words can be strung together to make the line “You’re Mother once thought as you do,” without it sounding like the Joshua war computer form War Games.

Even if the proper words or dialogue spoken by him saying “your mother” were found, the voice would never match the tone, rhythm, and beat etc. with the way the full line is spoken during the scene.

Maybe using a James Earl Jones sound-alike?

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#1171897
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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Last comment on this and then let’s close this topic and move on to making serious suggestions.

Even if anyone were to attempt creating a fanfilm scene like this or for any other edit, it’d cost money in the possible thousands to get/make props, the necessary materials to build a set, filming equipment, a professional crew that knows how to film it the proper way, and getting someone to portray Vader Admiral Piet etc.

Taking that into account, do you think it’ll be easier for someone who’s had to ask for donation drives as a last resort? Even though you understandably want your suggestion put out there, it all comes down to if you end up seeing it on the change list.

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#1170535
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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This is NOT meant to be a suggestion, only something meant to think about.

During the space Battle of Endor, there should’ve been heavy casualties from both the Empire and Rebel fleet afterwards, not just a majority of the Rebel pilots surviving afterwards and most of the Empire fleet being destroyed.

For ex. during the Battle of Yavin, there were many casualties to Red Squadron where in the end only Luke, Wedge and a single Y-Wing pilot were the only ones who made it and not a majority of the Red Squadron pilots making it afterwards for a happier ending.

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#1155591
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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Collipso said:

ray_afraid said:

Collipso said:

I don’t think we need important things happening all the time.

Anybody else think it’d be cool if TFA was titled Ep. 10? Even if a middle trilogy was never made (and I’d hope it wasn’t), it would inspire imagination the way titling ANH Ep. 4 did and be a cool way to acknowledge that some important things have happened in the meantime. Maybe just me.

Yes, I would’ve loved that. It feels so much more like an Episode X than an Episode VII. The way it was made it feel like it needs a prequel, a lot more than the OT needed.

An Interquel Trilogy (IT)

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#1153835
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Laserdiscs For Sale - Few With Features Not Available On DVD/Blu-ray
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These are some of the Laserdiscs from my collection that I’m willing to sell. For most of them the contents that aren’t available on DVD/Blu-ray are an Open-Matte frame. The LDs here are sealed in plastic that has never been opened and come off as brand new with the covers having no dents, folds etc.

Please excuse the blurriness as I have a very bad camera.

Day of the Dead (Uncut) TS-S001

Re-Animator (Uncut) CG98F5395

The Evil Dead SF078-5044

Blade Runner: Directors Cut 12682

Phantasm 20056

The Laserdisc’s below are on sale for $20.00 each just so I can get rid of them. All but one are unsealed but the discs show no signs of laser rot and/or damage of any kind and are completely clean.

Phantasm II 40839

Phantasm III 42081

Evil Dead 2 VL5212 (Sealed and never been opened)

Army of Darkness PILF-7265

If your interested in buying the sealed or the $20.00 ones, PM me and we can negotiate a reasonable price or arrange a payment. If a better pic is needed or have any general questions, you can post them here.

I apologize for this but unfortunatley shipping is not covered.

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#1149599
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Doctor Who
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After four years, I decided to watch Doctor Who again for the Christmas special just to see the regeneration at the end letting the whole “breaking the 12 regeneration limit rule” slide and giving it a chance to see if the show had gotten better seeing the First Doctor would be in it and had considered watching Peter Capaldi’s run as the Doctor now that it was over.

It only reaffirmed my belief that Stephen Moffat had ruined the show and that a majority of it, including Jodie Whittaker’s casting (I’m sincerely not trying to come off as misogynist), was done by the BBC for their own selfish agenda’s.

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#1146965
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Episode IX Discussion <strong><em>Spoiler Thread</em></strong>
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TavorX said:

Anyone think the Falcon should be destroyed in IX? I was kinda bummed even back in TFA that it lasted movie. And then it came back into action in TLJ. My reasoning is because it’s making excessive appearances and if it isn’t gone in IX, that leaves room for it to appear in yet another trilogy after IX… Plus, not gonna lie, I’m going to tear up seeing it blown up or something in the next movie.

I don’t want to think of another trilogy afterwards right now.