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#1437979
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>720p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Telion said:

This is just confusing. Their arms are the same in RO as in ANH??? What adywan did was chnage who’s arm got chopped off, to match what happens in the scene. We see Dr Evazan pull a gun to shoot Ben, then Ben cuts at Evazan and Ponda’s arm ends up on the floor with the blaster. So Ady switch the arms to make it so that Evazan’s arm is on the floor, becuase it makes more sence with what we saw happen. It was a mistake born form Geoge Lucas’s inexperiance with fight scene at the time, quite why he never thought to adress it as one of the many chnages he made in his SE I can’t fathom.

Evazan is also the one screaming in pain after Obi-Wan pulls out his lightsaber.

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#1434439
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List of Star Wars: Original Trilogy - Behind the Scenes Documentaries
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The Making of Star Wars: As Told by C-3P0 and R2-D2
The Making of The Empire Strikes Back
SP FX: The Empire Strikes Back
Classic Creatures: Return of the Jedi
From Star Wars to Jedi: The Making of a Saga

Are there any other behind the scenes documentaries for the OT that were released before 1997?

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#1434323
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Are the JSC LD's the <strong>TRUE</strong> Releases of the Theatrical Version(s)?
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Were the 1995 Faces VHS versions released in Pan & Scan or Squeezed?

schorman13 said:

Tantive3+1 said:

Interesting that the Theatrical audio for ANH has never had an official digital format release but the video portion of it has.

It has in fact been released digitally, in Japan, on Laserdisc, as stated above.

What do you mean?

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#1433966
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Info: Mono soundtracks that were butchered with 5.1 remixes in later releases
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crissrudd4554 said:

Tantive3+1 said:

Are there any mono tracks that have currently never been released on DVD/Blu-ray?

Some of the Dirty Harry films.

The original stereo mixes for Back to the Future haven’t made their way to DVD/BD either.

The mono mix for Star Wars has NEVER been released on video officially!

stwd4nder2 said:

Tantive3+1 said:

Are there any mono tracks that have currently never been released on DVD/Blu-ray?

Yes. A lot actually.
It seems like it’s more rare for the original mono to be included then not.

Sorry, I forgot to say original mono tracks. While it’s true the original tracks for the films mentioned above have never been digitally released, the 5.1 mixes still sound the same as their originals with no noticeable changes made to it.

The only film I know of where this has happened is SW:ANH. While the mono has never been officially released, the original stereo mix was first released for home media in 1982. Then in 1985 the original stereo track was remixed with changes being done to some of the sound effects and a line of dialogue being added. This was used for every home media release until the 1993 USDC/1995 Faces where it was remixed again with elements from the mono mix and new sound effects added with these changes being carried over to the GOUT DVD; and the rest is history after 1997.

Besides ANH, are there any other films where the original mono/stereo mix never got released on DVD/Blu-ray?

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#1433603
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Info: Digital Changes that were made to The Evil Dead (1981)
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Except for the ones that can be reverted through color correction and other minor things like shots being stabilized, this is a list of the digital changes that were made to the Blu-ray release(s) for The Evil Dead

https://youtu.be/c9HkcTsHjg4

00:03:05:10 to 00:03:08:18 - Rob Tapert standing in the background from the bridge is removed

00:06:07:20 to 00:06:25:12 - A cameraman’s reflection in the window is removed

00:34:13:11 to 00:34:25.17 - The lights flashing in the background are removed

00:36:47:10 to 00:36:54:02 - Two close-up shots of Linda screaming are flipped

00:52:19:09 to 00:52:24:22 - A line of hair visible in the shot is removed

01:05:05:09 to 01:05:19:06 - Four shots containing lens flares are painted out including one with dirt being cleaned up

01:16:12:09 to 01:16:21:15 - A jump cut of Ash, while he’s moving the dresser to the door, is smoothed with a fade

Taking all this into account, what are some of the audio changes that were made to the original soundtrack for the Blu-ray?

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#1433080
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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There’s a direct quote in ROTJ on Dagobah when Obi-Wan is telling Luke about his sister

To protect you both from the Emperor you were hidden from your father when you were born. The Emperor knew as I did that if Anakin were to have any offspring they would be a threat to him

This would mean that Vader/Anakin didn’t know that he had a son in ANH or that his wife was pregnant when he turned to the dark side. This makes perfect sense since the closest he came to know who Luke was in ANH is in the DS trench run when he says “The force is strong with this one”.

The best way to fix this in the PT is to overdub the dialogue between Anakin and Padme when she reveals she’s pregnant to him and also have the visions of her dying in childbirth removed and make his turn to the dark side a seduction of power. Then on Polis Massa when the droid is speaking to Obi-Wan is when it reveals she’s carrying twins with both of them being nameless when they’re born.

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#1432897
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Are the JSC LD's the <strong>TRUE</strong> Releases of the Theatrical Version(s)?
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So if I’m understanding it correctly, this is how the 1986 JSC of SW:ANH differs from the May 1977 35MM Theatrical version with the exception of the 1981 title crawl

  • When the MF is being chased after leaving Tatooine, the SFX shot of the Star Destroyer shooting at the MF was changed. The early version had different explosions with different flashes and looks less finished.

  • When the MF arrives on Yavin IV, the composite shot with the matte painting of the temple is recomposited and is not in sync. There’s also an artifact in the image.

  • In the shot of the X wings and Y wings taking off from outside the temple, there’s an extra cloud and the shot is not in sync. There’s also an artifact in the image.

  • The ending credits were completely redone with the spacing both vertically and horizontally altered with a glitch in the composition at the beginning being removed.

  • The 1985 audio mix.

So the pre-1985 home media releases and the GOUT DVD contain the 35MM Stereo mix.

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#1421468
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SW:ST without containing direct PT references (a WIP)
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Since my main focus is on the OT’s continuity and how the ST could’ve been different, I don’t want to create any changes that’d ruin it for PT fans. This makes a problem when trying to change one of the lines in TFA.

I don’t know where else to ask for good ideas because, while I do have some of my own, it mainly relates to what could’ve been before the PT.

What would be a good line for Kylo Ren to say to General Hux that refers to what could’ve been before the Stormtroopers and doesn’t ruin it for PT viewers?

"They’re skilled at committing high treason, perhaps Leader Snoke should consider using a clone army

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#1421410
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Direct references to the PT that were made in Disney’s ST
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RogueLeader said:

For a more straightforward callback, there is a battle droid in Babu Frik’s droid shop in TROS.

That scene where you can see the battle droid in the background was only shown in the final trailer. It isn’t shown in the film.

Rodney-2187 said:

Tantive3+1 said:

That scene where you can see the battle droid in the background was only shown in the final trailer. It isn’t shown in the film.

The battle droid is still there.

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Are there any other PT references like that?

The only other one I know of is in the early trailers for TFA; in Maz’s castle, flags are hanging around, and one of them had the symbol from Anakin’s podracer flag from TPM. It was then removed before the film’s release.
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#1421030
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Direct references to the PT that were made in Disney’s ST
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Were any SFX heard that was taken from the PT? for example ship engines, blaster shots, droid sounds, etc.

Knight of Kalee said:

  • The pirate Sidon Ithano at Maz’s castle (the one who Finn approaches to run away) wears a Kaleesh mask. General Grievous (a former Kaleesh) wore one such mask as a faceplate.

  • The ships among the citizen fleet in TROS include Naboo N-1 Starfighters (those are the ones TestingOutTheTest refers to. The Nubians are the royal cruisers).

  • The helmets of the Sith Troopers greatly resemble the Phase II clone trooper helmets.

Are there any other objects or ships like the ones already mentioned that appear throughout the ST?

ThatPixarGuy said:

“The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.” Was said in TROS.

What other lines from the PT were quoted in the ST?

RogueLeader said:

For a more straightforward callback, there is a battle droid in Babu Frik’s droid shop in TROS.

That scene where you can see the battle droid in the background was only shown in the final trailer. It isn’t shown in the film.

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#1420823
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SW:ST without containing direct PT references (a WIP)
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SUMMARY
When I first watched TFA, it seemed that Disney/Lucasfilm was trying to omit the PT as if it never happened, like showing that the force wasn’t midichlorians but something supernatural. Then in TLJ, Luke says to Rey, “At the height of their powers, they allowed Darth Sidious to rise, create the Empire, and wipe them out.” By the TROS, it was all over the place to where it was clear that Disney/Lucasfilm had fully integrated them into their canon of the Skywalker Saga.

INTENTION
I didn’t mind when this happened, even though there were certain things about TROS that I didn’t like. For someone like me who doesn’t really like the PT and prefers to come up with their own continuity based on what was heard and depicted in the OT, the purpose of these fan edit is to remove all direct PT references that restricts the canon of it to the ST without changing anything else about the films.

OVERALL
All scenes within the ST making direct PT references will be removed. These changes will only be minimal. Throughout the ST using sound-alikes, only 4 dialogue sequences from Luke, Lor San Tekka, and Kylo Ren will be changed, and 7 voice redubs for Obi-Wan and Anakin to have them speak as their OT counterparts, with Anakin speaking as Sebastian Shaw.

CHANGES
THE FORCE AWAKENS

  • In the opening scenes, when Lor San Tekka is speaking to Poe, saying “Without the Jedi, there can be no balance in the force” is going to be changed

  • When Kylo Ren is speaking to General Hux after Finn’s action by escaping with Poe, telling him "They’re skilled at committing high treason, perhaps Leader Snoke should consider using a clone army will only be partially changed

  • At the end of Rey’s force vision, Obi-Wan’s line “These are your first steps” will be redubbed to be Alec Guinness

THE LAST JEDI

  • On Arch-To, when Rey is trying to convince Luke to come back with her, his response saying “You think, what? I’m going to walk out with a laser sword and face down the whole First Order?” is going to be changed to "You think, what? I’m going to walk out with a lightsaber and face down the whole First Order?

  • When Luke gives Rey her second lesson by telling her about the Jedi, saying, “At the height of their powers, they allowed Darth Sidious to rise, create the Empire, and wipe them out” is going to be changed to “At the height of their powers, they allowed Palpatine to rise, create the Empire, and wipe them out"

THE RISE OF SKYWALKER
During the scene when Rey hears the voices of deceased Jedi speaking to her, Obi-Wan and Anakin’s dialogue will be redubbed

  • Obi-Wan Kenobi: “These are your final steps, Rey. Rise and take them”

  • Anakin Skywalker: “Rey”

  • Anakin Skywalker: “Bring back the balance, Rey, as I did”

  • Anakin Skywalker: “The Force surrounds you, Rey”

  • Anakin Skywalker: “Let it lift you”

  • Obi-Wan Kenobi: “Rise”