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#1374970
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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Telion said:

Adywan, in your full list of changes you’ve put:
“Have a small portion of the Ewok celebration which then leads to the funeral pyre scene. This is where the Force Ghosts will appear and the film will end with Luke being alone (which in turn foreshadows TFA).”

And I was just wondering where the stance is on that now. After TLJ/TROS, I know I’m not sure about how to feel when it comes to the sequel trilogy. I liked TFA, but it didn’t stand on its own and kind of hung on ANH/the promise of solid sequels but, given the disjointed nature of that trilogy… idk.
The real reason I ask is because, if that sort of open-ended ending was still part of you’re plan, then…

Spoilers for Rise of Skywalker

Could that new scene of Luke training Leia work as an alternative ending. It would still require trimming down the celebration and I’m not sure whether the pyre scene would work better where it is rn or just before the new scene, but I can imagine that scene fitting in there. I feel it would work well to act as a pay off to the whole “there is another” and give the whole siblings plot an actual conclusion, rather than just drama. It would also work for “haters” and fans of the Sequels alike, and would give credibility to certain controversial plot points that felt forced due to them having no setup.

Overall I believe it would add to the movie, and Star Wars saga, as (for some) the final movie in the saga, would end with Luke fulfilling his role of teaching the next generation of Jedi. The ‘Return Of The Jedi’.

Ending it on the pyre scene, with the ghosts added, was just an idea. The more i thought about it, the more i missed the celebration ( Yub-Nub, not the SE version with the ripped off native american/ new age music). The planet celebrations will still be erased ( why the hell are there thousands of people celebrating in mos eisley, a small spaceport?). The Empire isn’t fully defeated at this point and the celebrations are way too quick to happen. I’m going back to the pre-SE version of the ending ( with one or two changes, like the added wedge shots).

You could still end ROTJ:R with the funeral pyre scene by having the celebration happen before it just without Luke in it.

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#1374398
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Reconstructing the Sequel Trilogy
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Anakin Starkiller said:

The First Order and the Resistance work just fine if you change one small detail: they’re both funded by the Republic. Now it becomes a proxy war between two rival parties within the system. Snoke could be some rich senator.

I disagree.

The First Order shouldn’t be funded by the New Republic but instead should be viewed by them as terrorist-like.

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#1373106
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Reconstructing the Sequel Trilogy
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The way people reconstruct or create their own continuity with the PT, how would you redo the ST?

First I would start by having the First Order to be a group of survivors from the Empire who believe in the dark side of the Force and by not having the Resistance but as a group of pilots from the New Republic.

The ST shows as if the Battle of Endor did nothing to stop the Empire that also seems as if they then went on to use a different name as the First Order.

If the Empire are like Nazis that rose to power then the ST should depict the First Order as a group of Neo-Nazis.

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#1371784
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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One other thing I’ve mentioned before is that during the Space Battle of Endor (and possibly during the Ground Battle) there should heavy casualties from both the Empire and the Rebel fleet afterwards, not just a majority of the Rebel pilots surviving afterwards and most of the Empire fleet being destroyed for a happy ending.

For example: in ANH there were many heavy casualties to Red Squadron during the Battle of Yavin to where only Luke, Wedge and a single Y-Wing pilot were the only ones who made it in the end (plus the MF) and not a majority of the Red Squadron pilots surviving afterwards for a happier ending.

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#1370966
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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adywan said:

ray_afraid said:

JacobTheMoviePurist92 said:

Q&A time

  1. Are you gonna use the deleted scenes of the crew in the falcon and the guys manning the turrets?

I can tell you that, unfortunately, that’s a no. Ady has said that footage just isn’t salvageable to an acceptable level.
However, Ady does have a crew filming new scenes in the California Red Woods to expand the Endor ground battle!

Actually that is some of the only footage for ROTJ that could now possibly be used, with a lot of work, especially now with Topaz upscaling AI being available along with better noise reduction software . The rest of the deleted scenes from Jedi go from low quality to less-than-laserdisc quality, so can’t be used. But most of the shots inside the falcon are rubbish anyway. Why the hell are they running through the corridors with guns during the space battle? Maybe one or two shots, if any at all, may be used

Does this mean that the deleted scene of Vader calling out to Luke while he’s building his new lightsaber could possibly be used?

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#1370284
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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BedeHistory731 said:

ChainsawAsh said:

ray_afraid said:

Tantive3+1 said:

StarkillerAG said:

Tantive3+1 said:

I mentioned this earlier but the scenes between Han and Leia need to be more intimate.

Quick, someone find out if Carrie Fisher has ever done a sex scene in her career! 😉

You don’t need that. Cutting out the love triangle with Luke is a first step.

But, since there is no “love triangle” in the actual films, only in your mind, EU & deleted scenes, this isn’t even an issue.

Disagree. You can say it’s more accurate to say Han is being jealous than there being an actual love triangle, but to me that’s just potato, potato.

Besides, it’s just two scenes. DarthRush’s edit cut the first one (wiping from Luke leaving to the shuttle landing) and trimmed the second one (“He wasn’t, I can feel it.” cuts back and forth of confused Han and Leia turning to him “He’s my brother”). This should be a standard cut in every ROTJ edit.

Cutting the scene of Han and Leia embracing each other after what she had just been told is an intimate moment that’s necessary for the film. Cutting around the dialogue where Han believes there’s a love triangle between them with Luke is a tricky one.

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#1370117
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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StarkillerAG said:

Tantive3+1 said:

StarkillerAG said:

Tantive3+1 said:

I mentioned this earlier but the scenes between Han and Leia need to be more intimate.

Quick, someone find out if Carrie Fisher has ever done a sex scene in her career! 😉

You don’t need that. Cutting out the love triangle with Luke is a first step.

I know, I was joking. It’s a reference to some of the conversation that was going on in the prequel redux thread recently. Someone was trying to add a sex scene between Anakin and Padme, using footage from another Natalie Portman movie.

Please no.

Cutting out the love triangle with Luke is a first step in making the scenes between Han and Leia being together more intimate. Another way might be to add dialogue between them using Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher sound alikes to fill in the blanks. But that’s just a thought.

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#1370054
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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StarkillerAG said:

Tantive3+1 said:

I mentioned this earlier but the scenes between Han and Leia need to be more intimate.

Quick, someone find out if Carrie Fisher has ever done a sex scene in her career! 😉

You don’t need that. Cutting out the love triangle with Luke is a first step.

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#1366491
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The &quot;Name that Movie/TV Show I Can't Name&quot; Thread
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StarkillerAG said:

Tantive3+1 said:

This is a film I had seen a clip of on youtube.

A man, blonde haired woman, and a child are stranded or lost on a rural country highway. This scene takes place during daylight. That’s all I got. It was definitely a horror film and might have had something to do with satanists/devil worshipers. This film was released either in the late 60s or early 70s.

Oh and it was also an American film in color.

Sounds a lot like Manos: The Hands of Fate. It’s one of those famous “so bad it’s good” movies, which is probably why you saw a clip of it on YouTube.

Is there a blonde haired woman in it?

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#1366335
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The &quot;Name that Movie/TV Show I Can't Name&quot; Thread
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This is a film I had seen a clip of on youtube.

A man, blonde haired woman, and a child are stranded or lost on a rural country highway. This scene takes place during daylight. That’s all I got. It was definitely a horror film and might have had something to do with satanists/devil worshipers. This film was released either in the late 60s or early 70s.

Oh and it was also an American film in color.

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#1365475
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Info: Analog Releases of Films That Contain Deleted, Extended, &amp; Alternate Footage That've Never Been Released on DVD/BluRay
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Tantive3+1 said:

Tantive3+1 said:

JayArgonaut said:

Tantive3+1 said:

JayArgonaut said:

Tantive3+1 said:

Blue Thunder (1983) - these releases contain one additional scene not included on the DVD/Blu-ray versions.

More than one scene: 😃

https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=4680869

https://www.lddb.com/search.php?search=blue+thunder&format=ld&sort=date,asc

If you mean that one shot that’s shown earlier then your right.

JayArgonaut said:

Do all the LDs contain the extended version? I thought it was just the pan and scan releases?

Where did you hear that it was only the Pan & Scan releases?

JayArgonaut said:

Another entry for your list is Explorers. The 80s home video releases were re-edited by Dante apparently and they include scenes that are not present in the DVD-Blu-ray theatrical version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAmROBeqnI0

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/Explorers

Thanks, did all the VHS releases from the 80’s and 90’0s contain this scene?

To clarify, that scene is from the theatrical cut, which has only ever been released on VHS (CIC) in PAL European countries and that was during the 80s/90s. The theatrical cut airs on UK TV fairly regularly.

Explorers UK VHS

Explorers UK VHS II

The current worldwide DVD release by Paramount uses the Dante re-edited “Special Home Version” that was released in the US on LD, VHS and Beta during the 80s.

See below for a thorough discussion of the differences. 😃

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Has-anyone-ever-done-a-theatrical-cut-of-The-Explorers-River-Phoenix-Ethan-Hawke/id/48867

http://www.haku.co.uk/dvd/Explorers.html

Regarding Blue Thunder, I looked into purchasing the US NTSC W/S LD a while back but the one I saw for sale on eBay appeared to have the theatrical running time. This is why I suspected that only the early pan and scan versions contain the additional scenes.

Another entry for your list is, The Charge of the Light Brigade (1968).

All current DVDs use the U.S. cut, which is shorter by 7 minutes. There was a 1992 UK VHS release that featured the original full length version. Whenever it airs on TV, I’ve recorded it, in the hope that the full length version might turn up but nothing so far.

http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=12867#overall

OK, added.

Is the 1992 UK VHS of The Charge of the Light Brigade the longest version available?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062790/alternateversions?ref_=tt_ql_trv_5

Found an upgrade of the European version of Explorers (1985) on LD.

Never mind. The two scenes from the European version were included on the DVD release as bonus material.
http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=7416